Customs Charges Update

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by Dragon, Oct 22, 2004.

  1. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    Hi

    Thought I would update you all, I don't know if some of you read on this ng
    last week but I was charged £7.17 for 3 dvds I got delivered from dvdpacific
    which when I ordered came to less than the £18.00 charge, well on the box I
    received the charge was $32.50 which is 17.87 if you check with XE.com.

    Anyway been in touch with customs and they say it is a mistake on there
    behalf but I need to send the box with the proof on to them so hopefully I
    should get a reimburse

    Dave



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  2. Dragon

    CW Guest

    >$32.50 which is 17.87 if you check with XE.com.

    It's £18.13 according to HMCE rates of exchange for October (£1 = $1.7925)
    CW, Oct 22, 2004
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  3. Dragon

    POD {Ò¿Ó} Guest

    The thought of CW cajoles my mind into reminiscing about the smell of
    poppy seeds and the image of morning dew making uk.media.dvd glint in
    the crisp autumn rays of a mature sun.

    >>$32.50 which is 17.87 if you check with XE.com.

    >
    > It's £18.13 according to HMCE rates of exchange for October (£1 =
    > $1.7925)
    >


    I wonder which date they take when calculating it? As you may order it
    when the excange rate is good, but the day it comes through UK customs, it
    maybe bad, Wonder what the law is?


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  4. Dragon

    sword-master Guest

    "It is the date of goods entering the country / the date it is presented to
    customs for charge to be calculated not the date of order, as C&E cannot
    reasonably be expected (or probably even able due to various data protection
    acts) to investigate and confirm what date you ordered it. Import duty/VAT
    are simply the fees paid to physicaly bring the goods into the country and
    are levied at the time the import occurs."

    That was the response a VAT specialist at the firm of accountants I work for
    (in IT) gave me when I asked the same question as rates changed and nudged
    an order of mine over the limit (but C&E/Royal mail missed it - sigh of
    relief)

    Sword-master



    > I wonder which date they take when calculating it? As you may order it
    > when the excange rate is good, but the day it comes through UK customs, it
    > maybe bad, Wonder what the law is?
    sword-master, Oct 22, 2004
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  5. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    "CW" <> wrote in message
    news:N1fed.13472$...
    > >$32.50 which is 17.87 if you check with XE.com.

    >
    > It's £18.13 according to HMCE rates of exchange for October (£1 = $1.7925)
    >
    >

    I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of dvdpacific
    and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't there rates be what
    customs go on not there own, I have checked with XE.com all week since I
    got the goods and not once has the exchange rate gone over £18 so either
    customs are wrong or xe>com are wrong which one is it

    Dave



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  6. Dragon

    JF Sebastian Guest

    > I wonder which date they take when calculating it? As you may order it
    > when the excange rate is good, but the day it comes through UK customs, it
    > maybe bad, Wonder what the law is?


    The customs rates only change once a month (usually), so it shouldn't be
    that much a surprise. If you didn't know yet, they are available at
    HMCE's site http://www.hmce.gov.uk/: Select "Import & Export" at the
    top, then "Rates, Codes & Tools" on the left.
    JF Sebastian, Oct 23, 2004
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  7. Dragon

    Damon Guest

    "Dragon" <> Scratched looked thoughtful,
    scratched his beard and wrote
    news:pAged.137867$:

    > I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of
    > dvdpacific and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't there
    > rates be what customs go on not there own, I have checked with XE.com
    > all week since I got the goods and not once has the exchange rate gone
    > over œ18 so either customs are wrong or xe>com are wrong which one is
    > it
    >
    > Dave


    DVDPacific USA
    DVDSoon is Canadian

    Damon
    Damon, Oct 23, 2004
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  8. Dragon

    John Howells Guest

    "Dragon" <> wrote

    > I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of dvdpacific
    > and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't there rates be what
    > customs go on not there own, I have checked with XE.com all week since I
    > got the goods and not once has the exchange rate gone over £18 so either
    > customs are wrong or xe>com are wrong which one is it


    HMCE publish the rates to be applied.

    John Howells
    John Howells, Oct 23, 2004
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  9. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    "John Howells" <> wrote in message
    news:cldrh2$kn0$...
    >
    > "Dragon" <> wrote
    >
    > > I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of

    dvdpacific
    > > and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't there rates be what
    > > customs go on not there own, I have checked with XE.com all week since

    I
    > > got the goods and not once has the exchange rate gone over £18 so either
    > > customs are wrong or xe>com are wrong which one is it

    >
    > HMCE publish the rates to be applied.
    >
    > John Howells
    >

    I see what your saying then that means the rates companies put on their
    sites are wrong then, as my order with pacific was under 18 pound then the
    have mislead me as there rates should be the same as customs surely

    Dave



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  10. Dragon

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Dragon wrote:
    > "John Howells" <> wrote in message
    > news:cldrh2$kn0$...
    >>
    >> "Dragon" <> wrote
    >>
    >>> I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of
    >>> dvdpacific and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't
    >>> there rates be what customs go on not there own, I have checked
    >>> with XE.com all week since I got the goods and not once has the
    >>> exchange rate gone over £18 so either customs are wrong or xe>com
    >>> are wrong which one is it

    >>
    >> HMCE publish the rates to be applied.
    >>
    >> John Howells
    >>

    > I see what your saying then that means the rates companies put on
    > their sites are wrong then, as my order with pacific was under 18
    > pound then the have mislead me as there rates should be the same as
    > customs surely
    >

    No , because there is no single fixed exchange rate , even on the same day.

    You as an ordinary member of the public would be charged a different rate if
    you were buying or selling money for a holiday.
    That would in turn be different from the rates a business would use or that
    a credit card company might apply to transactions.
    XE.com can only offer a guide , just as the shops do because they have no
    way of knowing what rate your card company will use.

    C&E use a single rate for all of their calculations which tends to be
    somewhere in the middle of the range

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    Dr Zoidberg, Oct 23, 2004
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  11. Dragon

    John Howells Guest

    "Dragon" <> wrote

    > > HMCE publish the rates to be applied.
    > >
    > > John Howells
    > >

    > I see what your saying then that means the rates companies put on their
    > sites are wrong then, as my order with pacific was under 18 pound then the
    > have mislead me as there rates should be the same as customs surely


    And if they use that rate you'll probably complain that this is not what was
    charged to your credit card. Besides which, if you order in July and it is
    not shipped until August they cannot know the HMCE rate that will then
    apply. A site can only mislead you if you believe that can quote a single
    correct rate. They cannot. Different credit cards will charge different
    rates, even at the same moment, and the rate from any one card can vary
    within a particular day, and HMCE have their own rate, which is usually
    stable for a month. Any exchange rate quoted on a supplier web site can
    never be more than a guide.

    John Howells
    John Howells, Oct 23, 2004
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  12. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    "John Howells" <> wrote in message
    news:cle89b$qgt$...
    >
    > "Dragon" <> wrote
    >
    > > > HMCE publish the rates to be applied.
    > > >
    > > > John Howells
    > > >

    > > I see what your saying then that means the rates companies put on their
    > > sites are wrong then, as my order with pacific was under 18 pound then

    the
    > > have mislead me as there rates should be the same as customs surely

    >
    > And if they use that rate you'll probably complain that this is not what

    was
    > charged to your credit card. Besides which, if you order in July and it is
    > not shipped until August they cannot know the HMCE rate that will then
    > apply. A site can only mislead you if you believe that can quote a single
    > correct rate. They cannot. Different credit cards will charge different
    > rates, even at the same moment, and the rate from any one card can vary
    > within a particular day, and HMCE have their own rate, which is usually
    > stable for a month. Any exchange rate quoted on a supplier web site can
    > never be more than a guide.
    >
    > John Howells
    >

    Ok I agree with that aswell, so why cant customs have a policy where if you
    can prove to them that you paid under the 18 pound mark then you wont have
    to pay any extra, even thought the box price from pacific on there
    assumption and xe.com even thought it is only a guide both state I was under
    the price guideline

    Dave



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  13. Dragon

    John Howells Guest

    "Dragon" <> wrote

    > Ok I agree with that aswell, so why cant customs have a policy where if

    you
    > can prove to them that you paid under the 18 pound mark then you wont have
    > to pay any extra, even thought the box price from pacific on there
    > assumption and xe.com even thought it is only a guide both state I was

    under
    > the price guideline


    If you want to change the rules then write to Gordon Brown. Good luck!

    John Howells
    John Howells, Oct 23, 2004
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  14. Dragon

    nobby Guest

    "John Howells" <> wrote in message news:<cldrh2$kn0$>...
    > "Dragon" <> wrote
    >
    > > I see that but if that's the case then buying from the likes of dvdpacific
    > > and soon is wrong as they are from USA so shouldn't there rates be what
    > > customs go on not there own, I have checked with XE.com all week since I
    > > got the goods and not once has the exchange rate gone over £18 so either
    > > customs are wrong or xe>com are wrong which one is it

    >
    > HMCE publish the rates to be applied.
    >
    > John Howells


    Are you the fat pig, who goes by the name of Bumper, that goes in the White Lion?
    Nobby
    nobby, Oct 23, 2004
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  15. Dragon

    Biz Guest

    "Dragon" <> wrote in message
    news:ciyed.144860$...
    > >

    > Ok I agree with that aswell, so why cant customs have a policy where if

    you
    > can prove to them that you paid under the 18 pound mark then you wont have
    > to pay any extra,


    Why dont you ask them?
    Biz, Oct 24, 2004
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  16. Dragon

    PeteGibbs Guest

    Customs will calculate duty and vat on the amount you paid $32.50 at their rate
    of exchange for October. How much you pay via a credit card is irrelevant,
    because Customs & Excise work on the invoice value + shipping and handling to
    arrive at the dutiable/vat value of the goods. You are then calculated duty and
    vat on this price, but also bear in mind duty is also vatable.
    PeteGibbs, Nov 4, 2004
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