Curious Problem on x64 repair installs (bug??)

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Mark Gillespie, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
    "Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
    the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
    past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.

    I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
    has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
    cards/drivers.

    --
    Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


    ---
    avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    Tested on: 8/10/2006 11:28:46 PM
    avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    http://www.avast.com
     
    Mark Gillespie, Aug 10, 2006
    #1
    1. Advertising

  2. Mark Gillespie

    John Barnes Guest

    Based on the problems we have seen here, it would seem more likely to be USB
    devices if you have any connected.

    "Mark Gillespie" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.td2917zuj2q9yy@mark-pc...
    > Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
    > "Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
    > the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
    > past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.
    >
    > I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
    > has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
    > cards/drivers.
    >
    > --
    > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
    >
    >
    > ---
    > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    > Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    > Tested on: 8/10/2006 11:28:46 PM
    > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    > http://www.avast.com
    >
    >
    >
     
    John Barnes, Aug 11, 2006
    #2
    1. Advertising

  3. Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device. First
    rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers, USB
    drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.

    I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.


    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/xperts64


    Mark Gillespie wrote:
    > Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
    > "Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
    > the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
    > past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.
    >
    > I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
    > has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
    > cards/drivers.
     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Aug 11, 2006
    #3
  4. Mark Gillespie

    Guest

    Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

    > Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device. First
    > rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers, USB
    > drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
    >
    > I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Charlie.
    > http://msmvps.com/xperts64


    Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:

    http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t23813.html

    Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
    where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
    works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
    I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
    NVidia cards...
     
    , Aug 11, 2006
    #4
  5. Mark Gillespie

    John Barnes Guest

    Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up with
    the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
    >
    >> Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device.
    >> First
    >> rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers,
    >> USB
    >> drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
    >>
    >> I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Charlie.
    >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

    >
    > Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:
    >
    > http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t23813.html
    >
    > Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
    > where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
    > works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
    > I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
    > NVidia cards...
    >
     
    John Barnes, Aug 11, 2006
    #5
  6. Mark Gillespie

    John Barnes Guest

    You should find it in add/remove programs for the nVidia drivers.

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
    >
    >> Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device.
    >> First
    >> rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers,
    >> USB
    >> drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
    >>
    >> I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Charlie.
    >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

    >
    > Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:
    >
    > http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t23813.html
    >
    > Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
    > where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
    > works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
    > I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
    > NVidia cards...
    >
     
    John Barnes, Aug 11, 2006
    #6
  7. On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:11:13 +0100, John Barnes <> wrote:

    > Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up
    > with
    > the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.


    The problem is, it's repair install, so the original installation will not
    boot. So the only thing you can really do, is acess files from the
    Recovery Console. I did try deleting the nv4.inf and nv4.pnf files from
    the recovery console but it did not help. In the end, I gave up, as i'd
    wasted a whole evening trying to repair my AMD64 system to it would boot
    my new Intel Core 2 Duo. I did a clean install...


    ---
    avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    Tested on: 8/11/2006 9:33:37 PM
    avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    http://www.avast.com
     
    Mark Gillespie, Aug 11, 2006
    #7
  8. Mark Gillespie

    John Barnes Guest

    Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as you
    would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.

    "Mark Gillespie" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.td4zeamcj2q9yy@mark-pc...
    > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:11:13 +0100, John Barnes <> wrote:
    >
    >> Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up
    >> with
    >> the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.

    >
    > The problem is, it's repair install, so the original installation will not
    > boot. So the only thing you can really do, is acess files from the
    > Recovery Console. I did try deleting the nv4.inf and nv4.pnf files from
    > the recovery console but it did not help. In the end, I gave up, as i'd
    > wasted a whole evening trying to repair my AMD64 system to it would boot
    > my new Intel Core 2 Duo. I did a clean install...
    >
    >
    > ---
    > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    > Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    > Tested on: 8/11/2006 9:33:37 PM
    > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    > http://www.avast.com
    >
    >
    >
     
    John Barnes, Aug 11, 2006
    #8
  9. On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:53:33 +0100, John Barnes <> wrote:

    > Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as
    > you
    > would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.


    It's actually the OEM version I have, from the Tecnology Advance Program,
    lasy year. It's not a new system however, it's just a new motherboard,
    cpu, memory. The licence stays with this system, and the old bits we
    sold without any Windows licence. I'm pretty sure Microsoft's legal mumbo
    jumbo regarding transferring of OEM software do not apply under European
    law, as I recall there was a case that Microsoft lost on this issue.

    Perhaps someone can clarify, does OEM version of x64, mean that you cannot
    upgrade components? At which stage do components being replaced, turn
    into a system being replaced...


    ---
    avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    Tested on: 8/11/2006 10:39:49 PM
    avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    http://www.avast.com
     
    Mark Gillespie, Aug 11, 2006
    #9
  10. Mark Gillespie

    John Barnes Guest

    If you drill down thru the Microsoft licenses you end up with the mobo being
    the key. Charlie has opined that the case was a good choice as the COA is
    attached thereto. Personally, if Microsoft lets you activate, it seems like
    they concur with the installation.


    "Mark Gillespie" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.td42gmxjj2q9yy@mark-pc...
    > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:53:33 +0100, John Barnes <> wrote:
    >
    >> Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as
    >> you
    >> would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.

    >
    > It's actually the OEM version I have, from the Tecnology Advance Program,
    > lasy year. It's not a new system however, it's just a new motherboard,
    > cpu, memory. The licence stays with this system, and the old bits we
    > sold without any Windows licence. I'm pretty sure Microsoft's legal mumbo
    > jumbo regarding transferring of OEM software do not apply under European
    > law, as I recall there was a case that Microsoft lost on this issue.
    >
    > Perhaps someone can clarify, does OEM version of x64, mean that you cannot
    > upgrade components? At which stage do components being replaced, turn
    > into a system being replaced...
    >
    >
    > ---
    > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    > Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    > Tested on: 8/11/2006 10:39:49 PM
    > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    > http://www.avast.com
    >
    >
    >
     
    John Barnes, Aug 11, 2006
    #10
  11. The x64 OEM is a curious anomoly, IMHO,

    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    "Mark Gillespie" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.td42gmxjj2q9yy@mark-pc...
    > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:53:33 +0100, John Barnes <> wrote:
    >
    >> Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as
    >> you
    >> would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.

    >
    > It's actually the OEM version I have, from the Tecnology Advance Program,
    > lasy year. It's not a new system however, it's just a new motherboard,
    > cpu, memory. The licence stays with this system, and the old bits we
    > sold without any Windows licence. I'm pretty sure Microsoft's legal mumbo
    > jumbo regarding transferring of OEM software do not apply under European
    > law, as I recall there was a case that Microsoft lost on this issue.
    >
    > Perhaps someone can clarify, does OEM version of x64, mean that you cannot
    > upgrade components? At which stage do components being replaced, turn
    > into a system being replaced...
    >
    >
    > ---
    > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
    > Virus Database (VPS): 0632-2, 08/10/2006
    > Tested on: 8/11/2006 10:39:49 PM
    > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
    > http://www.avast.com
    >
    >
    >
     
    Charlie Russel, Aug 12, 2006
    #11
    1. Advertising

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

It takes just 2 minutes to sign up (and it's free!). Just click the sign up button to choose a username and then you can ask your own questions on the forum.
Similar Threads
  1. janet_princess_2k
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    531
    janet_princess_2k
    Aug 9, 2006
  2. Mothra
    Replies:
    1
    Views:
    395
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    Jul 18, 2005
  3. =?Utf-8?B?TG9naWtvcw==?=

    Helpful tip for programs/installs that do not run under x64

    =?Utf-8?B?TG9naWtvcw==?=, Aug 1, 2005, in forum: Windows 64bit
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    409
    =?Utf-8?B?TG9naWtvcw==?=
    Aug 1, 2005
  4. simonc

    x64 installs to wrong drive letter

    simonc, Feb 1, 2008, in forum: Windows 64bit
    Replies:
    8
    Views:
    568
    simonc
    Feb 1, 2008
  5. Victek

    Re: Repair/Installs using XP CD question

    Victek, Oct 22, 2007, in forum: A+ Certification
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    1,391
    Victek
    Oct 22, 2007
Loading...

Share This Page