Crave Talk: All hail the analogue revolution

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by casioculture@gmail.com, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. Guest

    "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."


    http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm

    What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    least a "cool/hip") revival?
     
    , Sep 20, 2006
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  2. Paul Heslop Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    > crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    > again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    > of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >
    > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >
    > What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    > (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    > altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    > least a "cool/hip") revival?


    isn't lo-fi always 'in'? I do wonder sometimes, watching videos for
    indie songs just how many are video at all and how many are film.
    --
    Paul (This sky, too, is folding under you)
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Stop and Look
    http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
     
    Paul Heslop, Sep 20, 2006
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  3. Marvin Guest

    wrote:
    > "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    > crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    > again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    > of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >
    >
    > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >
    > What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    > (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    > altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    > least a "cool/hip") revival?
    >


    It is most likely a craze, and will soon go away. The
    reason given on the Web site for buying the plastic recods
    is to have something tangible about a favorite group.
    T-shirts and poster do that job better.
     
    Marvin, Sep 20, 2006
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  4. jeremy Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    > crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    > again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    > of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >
    >
    > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >
    > What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    > (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    > altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    > least a "cool/hip") revival?
    >


    Two groups may continue working in film--

    1: People like me, who have accumulated all the film equipment they need,
    and for whom the cost of digital seems disproportionably high for the
    relatively small gain to be had.

    2: Artists who wish to achieve particular effects and for whom film can
    better-achieve what they want.

    If I were starting out today I would not even consider film. As it is I
    have a lot of stuff, and there is no compelling reason for me to "go
    digital" in any big way. Guys like me will eventually get old and die off.
    It is becoming increasingly difficult to purchase new film cameras and
    lenses. One day film stuff will be available only as used equipment
    (perhaps Leica will still offer new cameras for $10,000). I predict that in
    another 25 years film will be virtually unknown, except to specialist-types.

    Most of my children's friends, all born in the early 80s, have never even
    seen an LP. My oldest daughter was fascinated when she came over one day
    and found me spinning an LP on my Technics Turntable, with Stanton
    cartridge. Sure LPs are still available. Please show me where ordinary
    people can buy them. Same for film. All things evolve. All things pass
    from the scene eventually. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy what is
    available.
     
    jeremy, Sep 20, 2006
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  5. Roy G Guest

    "jeremy" <> wrote in message
    news:m1gQg.27$Kh.11@trnddc05...
    >
    > <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    >> crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    >> again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    >> of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >>
    >>
    >> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >>
    >> What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    >> (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    >> altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    >> least a "cool/hip") revival?
    >>

    >
    > Two groups may continue working in film--
    >
    > 1: People like me, who have accumulated all the film equipment they need,
    > and for whom the cost of digital seems disproportionably high for the
    > relatively small gain to be had.
    >
    > 2: Artists who wish to achieve particular effects and for whom film can
    > better-achieve what they want.
    >
    > If I were starting out today I would not even consider film. As it is I
    > have a lot of stuff, and there is no compelling reason for me to "go
    > digital" in any big way. Guys like me will eventually get old and die
    > off. It is becoming increasingly difficult to purchase new film cameras
    > and lenses. One day film stuff will be available only as used equipment
    > (perhaps Leica will still offer new cameras for $10,000). I predict that
    > in another 25 years film will be virtually unknown, except to
    > specialist-types.
    >
    > Most of my children's friends, all born in the early 80s, have never even
    > seen an LP. My oldest daughter was fascinated when she came over one day
    > and found me spinning an LP on my Technics Turntable, with Stanton
    > cartridge. Sure LPs are still available. Please show me where ordinary
    > people can buy them. Same for film. All things evolve. All things pass
    > from the scene eventually. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy what is
    > available.

    Hi.

    I do not know ewhere you are based, but during that article on the BBC News
    the other night, kids were buying Singles. At the end one of them, who had
    been interviewed was shown picking up an LP from a rack in a record shop. It
    most certainly was not a Single it was a 12 inch LP.

    Roy G
     
    Roy G, Sep 20, 2006
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  6. John Turco Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    > crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    > again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    > of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >
    > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >
    > What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    > (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    > altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    > least a "cool/hip") revival?



    Hello,

    So, is Sony going to revive the Mavica, and have it use vinyl records
    for storage, instead of floppy discs? <g>


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Sep 22, 2006
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  7. John Turco Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > "It sounds like an unlikely revival, but vinyl is scratching and
    > crackling its way back to the top. Seven-inch vinyl records are once
    > again a popular format for some indie singles' sales in the UK. Sales
    > of 7-inch singles have risen to well over one million this year."
    >
    > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49283730,00.htm
    >
    > What would this mean for film? I met a couple of school kids recently
    > (~20yo) who were shooting with Bronicas and dismissing digital
    > altogether as a bad taste item. Will film see a similar artistic (or at
    > least a "cool/hip") revival?



    Hello,

    So, is Sony going to revive the Mavica, and have it use vinyl records
    for storage, instead of floppy discs? <g>


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Sep 22, 2006
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  8. ASAAR Guest

    On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:47 GMT, Roy G wrote:

    > I do not know ewhere you are based, but during that article on the BBC News
    > the other night, kids were buying Singles. At the end one of them, who had
    > been interviewed was shown picking up an LP from a rack in a record shop. It
    > most certainly was not a Single it was a 12 inch LP.


    Could be. But the small label singles I've seen were pressed in
    several sizes. 7", 10" and 12". This wasn't recently though, but
    back from the eras of disco and scratchin' DJs, where many of the
    singles were custom, extended length versions, for use in clubs.
    And they weren't sold in traditional heavy weight album covers, with
    photos, art and text. They were just slipped in simple paper
    envelopes, similar to what was used for most of the old 45s. I
    haven't seen singles or LPs in quite some time, and that includes my
    own!
     
    ASAAR, Sep 22, 2006
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  9. ASAAR Guest

    On 22 Sep 2006 01:27:18 EDT, John Turco wrote:

    > So, is Sony going to revive the Mavica, and have it use vinyl records
    > for storage, instead of floppy discs? <g>


    If they ever revive the Mavica, it wouldn't use vinyl records.
    Sony would design it to use existing media, one which would give
    them a way to move their remaining stock of minidiscs. Actually,
    that wouldn't be as bad as it sounds. Moderately inexpensive and
    able to provide up to 1GB of digital data on fairly small, but not
    terribly speedy discs. Suitable for Mavicas though, and
    incompatible enough to give a Sony CEO a warm glow! :)
     
    ASAAR, Sep 22, 2006
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  10. John Turco Guest

    ASAAR wrote:
    >
    > On 22 Sep 2006 01:27:18 EDT, John Turco wrote:
    >
    > > So, is Sony going to revive the Mavica, and have it use vinyl records
    > > for storage, instead of floppy discs? <g>

    >
    > If they ever revive the Mavica, it wouldn't use vinyl records.
    > Sony would design it to use existing media, one which would give
    > them a way to move their remaining stock of minidiscs. Actually,
    > that wouldn't be as bad as it sounds. Moderately inexpensive and
    > able to provide up to 1GB of digital data on fairly small, but not
    > terribly speedy discs. Suitable for Mavicas though, and
    > incompatible enough to give a Sony CEO a warm glow! :)



    Hello, ASAAR:

    Sony and Epson are the types of companies that give Japan a bad
    name. <g>


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Sep 23, 2006
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