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Discussion in 'MCITP' started by UKuser, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. UKuser

    UKuser Guest

    Hi,

    I'm a little confused even after reading the Microsoft site.

    I was looking at doing MCSA a year or so back but didnt go through
    with it. I kinder understand the new courses that theres more 2/3
    module courses (these MCITP courses) along with the MCP eqivilent Tech
    Specialists.

    However I thought the MCSA/MCSE would not continue for Vista/Win08
    however the Microsoft site lists the Vista Tech Specialist modules as
    being able to be part of the MCSA/E.

    Q) Does that mean that when Win08 comes out, there will not be a MCSA/
    E Win08?
    Q) Will there be a Win08 MCITP?
    Q) For a sys admin person, should you aim for a few MCITP courses to
    get to the same standard as an MCSA/E or just specialise more?

    Lots of Q's - sorry bout that.

    Thanks

    A
     
    UKuser, Dec 22, 2007
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  2. "UKuser" <> wrote in message
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    > I'm a little confused even after reading the Microsoft site.
    >
    > I was looking at doing MCSA a year or so back but didnt go through
    > with it. I kinder understand the new courses that theres more 2/3
    > module courses (these MCITP courses) along with the MCP eqivilent Tech
    > Specialists.
    >
    > However I thought the MCSA/MCSE would not continue for Vista/Win08
    > however the Microsoft site lists the Vista Tech Specialist modules as
    > being able to be part of the MCSA/E.


    The 70-620 is being accepted as the ClientOS requirement for the MCSA/MCSE.
    Presumably that's in recognition of the fact that Vista desktops in a
    Windows Server 2003 environment will likely exist for the forseeable future.

    > Q) Does that mean that when Win08 comes out, there will not be a MCSA/
    > E Win08?


    There will NOT be any new MCSA/MSCE certifications. They stop with Windows
    Server 2003.

    The Windows Server 2008 certifications (as will EVERYTHING NEW) be MCTS and
    MCITP certifications.

    > Q) Will there be a Win08 MCITP?


    Yes.... there are two:

    MCITP: Server Administrator
    MCITP: Enterprise Administrator

    The specific requirements have not yet been posted, but based on the study
    guides and the beta exams, they include (at a minimum):
    70-640 Win2008 Active Directory, Configuring
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-640.mspx
    70-642 Win2008 Network Infrastructure, Configuring
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-642.mspx
    70-643 Win2008 Applications Infrastructure, Configuring
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-643.mspx
    for both certifications,

    and the following additional exams for each of the two MCITP:

    70-646 Win2008, Server Administrator
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-646.mspx
    70-647 Win2008, Enterprise Administrator
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-647.mspx

    and the part not yet documented, but expected, is that the Vista desktop
    exam will be required on one or both of those MCITP certs, based on the fact
    that it's already being accepted as the ClientOS requirement for the
    MCSA/MCSE:

    70-620 Windows Vista, Configuring
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-620.mspx


    > Q) For a sys admin person, should you aim for a few MCITP courses to
    > get to the same standard as an MCSA/E or just specialise more?


    From what I've read, considering that comparing MCSA/MCSE to MCTS/MCITP is
    kinda like comparing peaches to plums....

    The MCITP Server Administrator is essentially the same level as the
    MCSA -- those who maintain the server infrastructure, and
    the MCITP Enterprise Administrator is essentially the same level as the
    MCSE -- those who design the infrastructure.

    See the exam prep guides for the 70-646 and 70-647 for additional insight as
    to the differences between the two. Hopefully the MCITP specifications for
    those two certs will be posted (along with the MCTS specifications) in the
    near future (although maybe not until the exams are officially released).

    The significant point to note about the difference between the two systems
    is that the MCSA/MCSE is a perpetual certification, once earned, you hold it
    forever. However, the MCITP certification will require "renewal", ostensibly
    by either passing a "refresher" exam, or replacing it with a newer MCTS exam
    (the specifics have not yet been published, as no MCITP has even remotely
    reached this point yet -- but look for SQL2005/SQL2008 to be the first
    example of that scenario). Also, note that MCTS certifications will
    expire -- concurrent with the expiration of Mainstream Support for the
    product on which the MCTS was earned. Typically that's a minimum of five
    years from the release date (e.g. April 2011 for SQL Server 2005).

    See http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx for details on
    the MCTS expiration policy and MCITP renewal policy.


    --
    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCBMSP, MCTS, MCP
    Senior Data Architect, APQC, Houston, Texas
    MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2007)

    MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
    My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
    http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
     
    Lawrence Garvin, Dec 23, 2007
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