Clonezilla/PartMagic log

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Robert Baer, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
    during copy of a partition.
    Is there a (detailed) progress log, where is it, and how do i look at it?
     
    Robert Baer, Jul 28, 2013
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  2. Robert Baer

    VanguardLH Guest

    Robert Baer wrote:

    > Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
    > during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
    > where is it, and how do i look at it?


    PartMagic? Did you mean PartitionMagic (by Powerquest swallowed up by
    Symantec and abandoned) or Parted Magic? I'll assume you meant Parted
    Magic (aka GParted).

    http://www.google.com/search?q="parted%20magic"%20log

    The first hit was:

    http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
    (but does not take you to the actual page, just the doc list).

    In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
    that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

    The only online "documentation" at the Clonezilla's site are a bunch
    of screen snapshots. They have a users forum at Sourceforge
    (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

    http://www.google.com/search?q=clonezilla log

    found:

    http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/
    * Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
    and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.
     
    VanguardLH, Jul 28, 2013
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  3. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > Robert Baer wrote:
    >
    >> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
    >> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
    >> where is it, and how do i look at it?

    >
    > PartMagic? Did you mean PartitionMagic (by Powerquest swallowed up by
    > Symantec and abandoned) or Parted Magic? I'll assume you meant Parted
    > Magic (aka GParted).

    * Correct; PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla.

    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?q="parted%20magic"%20log
    >
    > The first hit was:
    >
    > http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
    > (but does not take you to the actual page, just the doc list).
    >
    > In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
    > that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

    * Well, close but no cigar as they say.
    I see no windows-like displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown
    in that list.
    PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
    remember seeing anything during operation like "save details".
    And (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
    only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?

    >
    > The only online "documentation" at the Clonezilla's site are a bunch
    > of screen snapshots. They have a users forum at Sourceforge
    > (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

    * Hmm..add a thread just for this?

    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?q=clonezilla log
    >
    > found:
    >
    > http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

    * see only "sales pitches".

    > * Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
    > and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

    * Automatically created? Some virtual place during the session?
    How can one copy them to a floppy?
     
    Robert Baer, Jul 29, 2013
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  4. Robert Baer

    VanguardLH Guest

    Robert Baer wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> Robert Baer wrote:
    >>
    >>> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
    >>> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
    >>> where is it, and how do i look at it?

    >>
    >> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
    >> In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
    >> that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

    >
    > Well, close but no cigar as they say. I see no windows-like
    > displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown in that list.
    > PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
    > remember seeing anything during operation like "save details". And
    > (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
    > only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?


    If you don't see Save Details then you'll have to ask the author why
    he documents a function that you cannot see. Since their web site
    doesn't mention how to contact the author or developer(s), looks like
    you're stuck asking in their forums (http://forums.partedmagic.com/).

    >> They have a users forum at Sourceforge
    >> (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

    >
    > Hmm..add a thread just for this?


    Well, that's what you did here.

    >> http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

    >
    > see only "sales pitches".


    Did you search on "log files" in that web page (to find the quoted
    content below)?

    >> Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
    >> and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

    >
    > Automatically created?


    I suppose so when you run the program to do the clone job.

    > Some virtual place during the session?


    The absolute path is specified.

    > How can one copy them to a floppy?


    How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?
     
    VanguardLH, Jul 29, 2013
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  5. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > Robert Baer wrote:
    >
    >> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>
    >>> Robert Baer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
    >>>> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
    >>>> where is it, and how do i look at it?
    >>>
    >>> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
    >>> In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
    >>> that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

    >>
    >> Well, close but no cigar as they say. I see no windows-like
    >> displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown in that list.
    >> PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
    >> remember seeing anything during operation like "save details". And
    >> (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
    >> only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?

    >
    > If you don't see Save Details then you'll have to ask the author why
    > he documents a function that you cannot see. Since their web site
    > doesn't mention how to contact the author or developer(s), looks like
    > you're stuck asking in their forums (http://forums.partedmagic.com/).
    >
    >>> They have a users forum at Sourceforge
    >>> (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

    >>
    >> Hmm..add a thread just for this?

    >
    > Well, that's what you did here.
    >
    >>> http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

    >>
    >> see only "sales pitches".

    >
    > Did you search on "log files" in that web page (to find the quoted
    > content below)?
    >
    >>> Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
    >>> and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

    >>
    >> Automatically created?

    >
    > I suppose so when you run the program to do the clone job.
    >
    >> Some virtual place during the session?

    >
    > The absolute path is specified.
    >
    >> How can one copy them to a floppy?

    >
    > How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

    Never done that in Linux.
    I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its own, different language and
    i have no idea how to copy a file, and can only guess how to even change
    folders (prolly different also).
     
    Robert Baer, Jul 29, 2013
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  6. Robert Baer

    VanguardLH Guest

    Robert Baer wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

    >
    > Never done that in Linux. I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its
    > own, different language and i have no idea how to copy a file, and
    > can only guess how to even change folders (prolly different also).


    Then wouldn't a partition manager that has a Windows-like GUI be more
    to your liking, like Easeus PartitionManager (free for personal use)?
    Alas, looks like you have to buy a payware version to get a [WinPE]
    bootable version so you could boot from optical disk or a flash drive.

    http://www.partition-tool.com/

    To check if that program has the logs that you want, you could ask
    other users in their forums at:

    http://forum.easeus.com/

    I don't leave partition managers installed since it is rare that I
    need one. I do have the Minitool Partition Manager on a bootable CD.

    http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
    http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html

    Since it is rare that I change partitioning, I don't recall what if
    any logging the free version might have. They have an edition compare
    page but don't mention logging for any of them; however, that function
    is often omitted in such rudimentary comparisons.

    http://www.partitionwizard.com/comparison.html

    You might have to ask them a pre-sales question on which, if any, of
    their editions support logging.
     
    VanguardLH, Jul 30, 2013
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  7. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > Robert Baer wrote:
    >
    >> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>
    >>> How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

    >>
    >> Never done that in Linux. I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its
    >> own, different language and i have no idea how to copy a file, and
    >> can only guess how to even change folders (prolly different also).

    >
    > Then wouldn't a partition manager that has a Windows-like GUI be more
    > to your liking, like Easeus PartitionManager (free for personal use)?
    > Alas, looks like you have to buy a payware version to get a [WinPE]
    > bootable version so you could boot from optical disk or a flash drive.
    >
    > http://www.partition-tool.com/
    >
    > To check if that program has the logs that you want, you could ask
    > other users in their forums at:
    >
    > http://forum.easeus.com/
    >
    > I don't leave partition managers installed since it is rare that I
    > need one. I do have the Minitool Partition Manager on a bootable CD.
    >
    > http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
    > http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html
    >
    > Since it is rare that I change partitioning, I don't recall what if
    > any logging the free version might have. They have an edition compare
    > page but don't mention logging for any of them; however, that function
    > is often omitted in such rudimentary comparisons.
    >
    > http://www.partitionwizard.com/comparison.html
    >
    > You might have to ask them a pre-sales question on which, if any, of
    > their editions support logging.

    Err..am only making a clone of a hard drive, and happened to see that
    the copy process failed on one of the partitions.
    Would like to see a reasonably detailed log after cloning is done;
    that way i could be assured copy was good OR if problem, which partition.
    So, with that in mind,what is the magic code one would use to copy a
    file (created/written during a session) to a floppy?
     
    Robert Baer, Jul 31, 2013
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  8. Robert Baer

    VanguardLH Guest

    Robert Baer wrote:

    > what is the magic code one would use to copy a file (created/written
    > during a session) to a floppy?


    If the floppy drive isn't mounted already, you'll have to mount it so
    you can then access it. See:

    http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-copy-data-from-a-floppy-to-hard-disk/

    You'll be using the 'cp' command to copy files from the logdir for the
    clone program. For help on the 'cp' command, run 'man cp' to see the
    man[ual] page for that program. Remember to use forward slashes in
    *NIX paths, not the backslashes that Microsoft chose to use.

    http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_cp.htm
    http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm

    Using console-mode (command-line) commands means you need to get to a
    prompt in a shell. Do either Clonezilla or Parted Magic let you drop
    out of their UI so you can get into a shell? If not, and if you are
    using bootable media from which you run those programs, do you drop
    back into the shell when you exit those programs?
     
    VanguardLH, Jul 31, 2013
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  9. Robert Baer

    Paul Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > Robert Baer wrote:
    >
    >> what is the magic code one would use to copy a file (created/written
    >> during a session) to a floppy?

    >
    > If the floppy drive isn't mounted already, you'll have to mount it so
    > you can then access it. See:
    >
    > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-copy-data-from-a-floppy-to-hard-disk/
    >
    > You'll be using the 'cp' command to copy files from the logdir for the
    > clone program. For help on the 'cp' command, run 'man cp' to see the
    > man[ual] page for that program. Remember to use forward slashes in
    > *NIX paths, not the backslashes that Microsoft chose to use.
    >
    > http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_cp.htm
    > http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm
    >
    > Using console-mode (command-line) commands means you need to get to a
    > prompt in a shell. Do either Clonezilla or Parted Magic let you drop
    > out of their UI so you can get into a shell? If not, and if you are
    > using bootable media from which you run those programs, do you drop
    > back into the shell when you exit those programs?


    Actually, you can use mcopy in Linux, to copy to a floppy.
    Something like:

    mcopy /home/users/wally/myfile.txt A:/myfile.txt

    In my virtual machine collection here, I have a problem mounting
    the virtual floppy in Virtual PC. And when that won't work, I
    find that the "mtools" mcopy command will still work. (Go to package
    manager and see if an "mtools" is available for download.)

    I first started using mcopy back at work years ago, for some
    similar reason, and the package is available to help out
    in emergencies.

    http://ss64.com/bash/mtools.html

    The hardest part of using those, is figuring out the syntax of the command.
    I can never get it right on the first try.

    The nice thing about the commands, is they do the least I/O possible
    to the floppy (i.e. like DOS was doing it). If you mount a floppy,
    I find the mount operation reads around a quarter of the floppy
    (takes a few seconds), and also the I/O is lazy and the write cache
    gets flushed on a dismount (so you can't just pop out a mounted
    floppy without following the rules). Mcopy is a little better in
    that regard, as it appears to be a block level tool without all
    the fancy caching used in a mount.

    Paul
     
    Paul, Jul 31, 2013
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