Christmas spam

Discussion in 'UK VOIP' started by Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. I notice in my spam filter a junk mail allegedly from Gossiptel, although
    sent via an outfit called Atelier Studios. Fascinatingly, I ".. have
    received this email because you subscribed with Gossiptel and and agreed to
    receive e-mail." (The double 'and' is in the original.)

    Except I don't remember doing any such things and the address to which it
    was sent is not one I'd have used for the purpose anyway (the only place
    it's used is as a contact for domain registration).

    So, did Gossiptel fall for spammer sales talk or is it directly their fault?

    --
    Dave
    mail da (without the space)
    http://www.llondel.org
    So many gadgets, so little time
     
    Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}, Dec 23, 2005
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  2. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Bob Evans Guest

    In article <>, Dave {Reply
    Address in.Sig} <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote
    >I notice in my spam filter a junk mail allegedly from Gossiptel, although
    >sent via an outfit called Atelier Studios.


    You are far from alone :(

    >So, did Gossiptel fall for spammer sales talk or is it directly their fault?


    The term "spamming bastards" comes to mind. According to RIPE, the
    originating address belongs to a company called RapidSwitch Ltd. Abuse
    address is given as .

    --
    Bob Evans
     
    Bob Evans, Dec 23, 2005
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  3. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Peter Ramm Guest

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:43:05 +0000, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}"
    <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:

    >I notice in my spam filter a junk mail allegedly from Gossiptel, although
    >sent via an outfit called Atelier Studios. Fascinatingly, I ".. have
    >received this email because you subscribed with Gossiptel and and agreed to
    >receive e-mail." (The double 'and' is in the original.)
    >
    >Except I don't remember doing any such things and the address to which it
    >was sent is not one I'd have used for the purpose anyway (the only place
    >it's used is as a contact for domain registration).
    >
    >So, did Gossiptel fall for spammer sales talk or is it directly their fault?


    (Copied by e-mail to Peter Gradwell)

    I also - but I think I have a pointer - do you use gradwell?

    I use unique e-mail addresses which are "tied" to external
    organisations. The e-mail address to which I was spammed was one
    which I had registered with gradwell.

    I have earlier e-mailed peter gradwell and look forward to an
    explanation - I suspect it has been done (if it is indeed via a
    gradwell mailing list) with no knowledge by gradwell at all - they
    have always struck me as a moral/trust-worthy organisation which is
    one reason why I chose to use them in the first place.

    (As an aside I get a fair amount of spam - all phishing attempts to my
    "british gas" registered e-mail address. I guess someone working in
    an organisation such as BG could very easily pass on an e-mail address
    list - most people would have no idea how the spammers had got the
    address)

    --
    Pete Ramm
    LID

    Stamp out Spam - See my anti-spam pages:
    http://www.spamfreezone.org
     
    Peter Ramm, Dec 24, 2005
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  4. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Peter Ramm Guest

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:43:05 +0000, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}"
    <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:

    >I notice in my spam filter a junk mail allegedly from Gossiptel, although
    >sent via an outfit called Atelier Studios. Fascinatingly, I ".. have
    >received this email because you subscribed with Gossiptel and and agreed to
    >receive e-mail." (The double 'and' is in the original.)
    >
    >Except I don't remember doing any such things and the address to which it
    >was sent is not one I'd have used for the purpose anyway (the only place
    >it's used is as a contact for domain registration).
    >
    >So, did Gossiptel fall for spammer sales talk or is it directly their fault?




    I also - but I think I have a pointer - do you use gradwell?

    I use unique e-mail addresses which are "tied" to external
    organisations. The e-mail address to which I was spammed was one
    which I had registered with gradwell.

    I have earlier e-mailed peter gradwell and look forward to an
    explanation - I suspect it has been done (if it is indeed via a
    gradwell mailing list) with no knowledge by gradwell at all - they
    have always struck me as a moral/trust-worthy organisation which is
    one reason why I chose to use them in the first place.

    (As an aside I get a fair amount of spam - all phishing attempts to my
    "british gas" registered e-mail address. I guess someone working in
    an organisation such as BG could very easily pass on an e-mail address
    list - most people would have no idea how the spammers had got the
    address)

    --
    Pete Ramm
    LID

    Stamp out Spam - See my anti-spam pages:
    http://www.spamfreezone.org
     
    Peter Ramm, Dec 24, 2005
    #4
  5. In message <>, Peter Ramm wrote:

    > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:43:05 +0000, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}"
    > <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:
    >
    >>I notice in my spam filter a junk mail allegedly from Gossiptel, although
    >>sent via an outfit called Atelier Studios. Fascinatingly, I ".. have
    >>received this email because you subscribed with Gossiptel and and agreed
    >>to receive e-mail." (The double 'and' is in the original.)
    >>
    >>Except I don't remember doing any such things and the address to which it
    >>was sent is not one I'd have used for the purpose anyway (the only place
    >>it's used is as a contact for domain registration).
    >>
    >>So, did Gossiptel fall for spammer sales talk or is it directly their
    >>fault?

    >
    >
    >
    > I also - but I think I have a pointer - do you use gradwell?
    >
    > I use unique e-mail addresses which are "tied" to external
    > organisations. The e-mail address to which I was spammed was one
    > which I had registered with gradwell.
    >
    > I have earlier e-mailed peter gradwell and look forward to an
    > explanation - I suspect it has been done (if it is indeed via a
    > gradwell mailing list) with no knowledge by gradwell at all - they
    > have always struck me as a moral/trust-worthy organisation which is
    > one reason why I chose to use them in the first place.
    >
    > (As an aside I get a fair amount of spam - all phishing attempts to my
    > "british gas" registered e-mail address. I guess someone working in
    > an organisation such as BG could very easily pass on an e-mail address
    > list - most people would have no idea how the spammers had got the
    > address)
    >

    Shortly after posting that I spotted the discussion on the Gradwell
    newsgroup. The lack of responses here backs up the belief that someone
    nicked their mailing list.
    --
    Dave
    mail da (without the space)
    http://www.llondel.org
    So many gadgets, so little time
     
    Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}, Dec 24, 2005
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  6. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Guest

    Hi

    > Shortly after posting that I spotted the discussion on the Gradwell
    > newsgroup. The lack of responses here backs up the belief that someone
    > nicked their mailing list.


    yeah... we don´t know how/why it happened. We were careful to seperate
    the databases >1yr ago when we (gradwell) washed our hands of gossiptel
    and hence are rather mystified & annoyed.

    But Friday 23rd isn´t the day or time to ask complicated questions, so
    doubtless we´ll find out what happened eventually.

    cheers
    peter (gradwell)

    (in tenerife, so using google groups)
     
    , Dec 24, 2005
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  7. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Jono Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...


    >But Friday 23rd isn´t the day or time to ask complicated questions,
    >cheers
    >peter (gradwell)


    >(in tenerife, so using google groups)


    But surely it's Saturday in Tenerife as well?
     
    Jono, Dec 24, 2005
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  8. Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}

    Peter Ramm Guest

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:57:22 +0000, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}"
    <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:

    <snip>
    >Shortly after posting that I spotted the discussion on the Gradwell
    >newsgroup. The lack of responses here backs up the belief that someone
    >nicked their mailing list.



    Is it possible to cross-post the gradwell discussion with this one
    please?
    --
    Pete Ramm
    LID
     
    Peter Ramm, Dec 28, 2005
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