Choosing XP instead of Vista

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by CM, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. CM

    CM Guest

    If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    would XP not insall over the top of Vista?

    Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~
     
    CM, Mar 29, 2007
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  2. CM

    Mathew Good Guest

    On 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, "CM" <> wrote:

    >If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >
    >Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~




    No buy a Computer that has XP..
     
    Mathew Good, Mar 29, 2007
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    peterwn Guest

    On Mar 29, 10:15 pm, Mathew Good < wrote:
    > On 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, "CM" <> wrote:
    >
    > No buy a Computer that has XP..


    Who sells them for retail customers?
     
    peterwn, Mar 30, 2007
    #3
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    Rob Guest

    "peterwn" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Mar 29, 10:15 pm, Mathew Good < wrote:
    >> On 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, "CM" <> wrote:
    >>
    >> No buy a Computer that has XP..

    >
    > Who sells them for retail customers?
    >
    >
    >


    Warehouse Stationary have a whole lot of floor stock computers with XP on
    them.
     
    Rob, Mar 30, 2007
    #4
  5. CM

    Jack Guest

    "CM" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    > one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    > restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    > would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >
    > Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~


    Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:

    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html

    http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

    I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    XP or Linux.
     
    Jack, Mar 30, 2007
    #5
  6. CM

    Mathew Good Guest

    On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:

    >
    >"CM" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>
    >> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~

    >
    >Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:
    >
    >http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html
    >
    >http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
    >
    >I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >XP or Linux.
    >
    >




    Who in his right mind would get VISTA, Read the News its Utter CRAP..

    All the Adobe stuff with not run on it for one thing..
     
    Mathew Good, Mar 30, 2007
    #6
  7. Mathew Good wrote:
    > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:
    >
    >> "CM" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>>
    >>> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~

    >> Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:
    >>
    >> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html
    >>
    >> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
    >>
    >> I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >> a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >> XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >> I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >> VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >> XP or Linux.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > Who in his right mind would get VISTA, Read the News its Utter CRAP..
    >
    > All the Adobe stuff with not run on it for one thing..
    >
    >

    Such as ???

    I have Vista ultimate and do not appear to have Adobe issues

    Below my installed software list and it all operates as expected

    ----- [Installed Programs]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Program Version Uninstall Command
    ACDSee 8 8.1.98 MsiExec.exe
    /I{AE80641A-0C8D-4670-A518-B4EC154B1027}
    Adobe Bridge 1.0 1.0.1.1 MsiExec.exe
    /I{AE3D38A6-13B1-40B3-9423-D1FA9982FB6A}
    Adobe Common File Installer 1.00.002 MsiExec.exe
    /I{8EDBA74D-0686-4C99-BFDD-F894678E5102}
    Adobe Flash Player 9 ActiveX 9
    C:\Windows\system32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil9b.exe -uninstallDelete
    Adobe Help Center 2.0 2.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{8FFC924C-ED06-44CB-8867-3CA778ECE903}
    Adobe Photoshop CS2 9.0 msiexec /I
    {236BB7C4-4419-42FD-0409-1E257A25E34D}
    Adobe Reader 8 8.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-A80000000002}
    Adobe Stock Photos 1.0 1.0.2 MsiExec.exe
    /I{786C5747-1437-443D-B06E-79A00FE45110}
    Amnesty Generator 0.60.0000 MsiExec.exe
    /I{5B237E04-BC4E-43DF-84BA-7E8E1B7DE8F2}
    Apple Software Update 1.1.0.3 MsiExec.exe
    /I{A260B422-70E1-41E2-957D-F76FA21266D5}
    Attansic Giga Ethernet Utility 1.0 RunDll32
    C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\PROFES~1\RunTime\0700\Intel32\Ctor.dll,LaunchSetup
    "C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation
    Information\{1F698102-5739-441E-96F0-74F4EA540F06}\setup.exe" -l0x9
    Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet Driver rundll32.exe
    C:\Windows\system32\Attansic\L1\atcInst.dll,VisUninst
    C:\Windows\system32\Attansic\L1 x86 pci\ven_1969&dev_1048
    AutoUpdate 1.1
    AVG 7.5 C:\Program
    Files\Grisoft\AVG7\setup.exe /UNINSTALL
    CD-LabelPrint "C:\Program
    Files\CD-LabelPrint\Uninstal.exe" Canon.CDLabelPrint.Application
    DivX Codec 6.4.0 C:\Program
    Files\DivX\DivXCodecUninstall.exe /CODEC
    DivX Content Uploader 1.0.0 C:\Program
    Files\DivX\DivXContentUploaderUninstall.exe /CUPLOADER
    DivX Converter 6.2.1 C:\Program
    Files\DivX\ConverterUninstall.exe /CONVERTER
    DivX Player 6.4 C:\Program
    Files\DivX\DivXPlayerUninstall.exe /PLAYER
    DivX Web Player 1.2.0 C:\Program
    Files\DivX\DivXWebPlayerUninstall.exe /PLUGIN
    DriveImage XML 1.21 "C:\Program
    Files\Runtime Software\DriveImage XML\Uninstall.exe" "C:\Program Files\Runtime
    Software\DriveImage XML\install.log" -u
    FTP Voyager
    C:\Windows\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\RhinoSoft.com\FTP
    Voyager\Uninst.isu" -c"C:\Program Files\RhinoSoft.com\FTP Voyager\FVUninstall.dll"
    Google Earth 3.0.0762 RunDll32
    C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\PROFES~1\RunTime\10\01\Intel32\Ctor.dll,LaunchSetup
    "C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation
    Information\{3DE5E7D4-7B88-403C-A3FD-2017A8240C5B}\setup.exe" -l0x9 -removeonly
    Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer regsvr32 /u /s
    "c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll"
    ISO Recorder 3.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{39600969-41C3-4658-876E-16F108FC5C92}
    iTunes 7.1.1.5 MsiExec.exe
    /I{AB90749C-7422-4580-8A7A-66CC5E9E5F98}
    Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6 1.6.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{3248F0A8-6813-11D6-A77B-00B0D0160000}
    Microsoft FrontPage 2002 10.0.6626.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{90170409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 11.0.7969.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    Microsoft Office Visio Professional 2003 11.0.7969.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{90510409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    Mozilla Firefox (2.0.0.3) 2.0.0.3 (en-US) C:\Program
    Files\Mozilla Firefox\uninstall\helper.exe
    Mozilla Thunderbird (1.5) 1.5 (en-US) C:\Program
    Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\uninstall\uninstall.exe /ua "1.5 (en-US)"
    Mp3 Tag Tools v1.2 "C:\Program
    Files\Mp3TagToolsv12\uninstall.exe"
    Nero 7 Ultra Edition 7.02.4712 MsiExec.exe
    /I{FC98FBE9-E931-494C-8717-497185371033}
    NewsBin Pro V5 5.01 C:\Program
    Files\NewsBin\uninst.exe
    Picasa 2 2.0 "C:\Program
    Files\Picasa2\Uninstall.exe"
    QuickTime 7.1.5.120 MsiExec.exe
    /I{5E863175-E85D-44A6-8968-82507D34AE7F}
    TVUPlayer 2.3.2.19 2.3.2.19 C:\Program
    Files\TVUPlayer\uninst.exe
    Windows Mobile Device Center 6.0.6783.0 MsiExec.exe
    /I{1F2A5DF9-40E1-4644-ADBD-D80F347BA6C8}
    WinZip 11.0 (7313) "C:\Program
    Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE" /uninstall
    µTorrent 1.6.1 "C:\Program
    Files\uTorrent\uninstall.exe"
     
    Collector»NZ, Mar 30, 2007
    #7
  8. CM

    Mathew Good Guest

    On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:30:55 +1200, Collector»NZ <> wrote:

    >Mathew Good wrote:
    >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "CM" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>>> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>>> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>>> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~
    >>> Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:
    >>>
    >>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html
    >>>
    >>> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
    >>>
    >>> I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >>> a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >>> XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >>> I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >>> VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >>> XP or Linux.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Who in his right mind would get VISTA, Read the News its Utter CRAP..
    >>
    >> All the Adobe stuff with not run on it for one thing..
    >>
    >>

    >Such as ???
    >
    >I have Vista ultimate and do not appear to have Adobe issues
    >
    >Below my installed software list and it all operates as expected
    >
    >----- [Installed Programs]
    >----------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >Program Version Uninstall Command
    >ACDSee 8 8.1.98 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{AE80641A-0C8D-4670-A518-B4EC154B1027}
    >Adobe Bridge 1.0 1.0.1.1 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{AE3D38A6-13B1-40B3-9423-D1FA9982FB6A}
    >Adobe Common File Installer 1.00.002 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{8EDBA74D-0686-4C99-BFDD-F894678E5102}
    >Adobe Flash Player 9 ActiveX 9
    >C:\Windows\system32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil9b.exe -uninstallDelete
    >Adobe Help Center 2.0 2.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{8FFC924C-ED06-44CB-8867-3CA778ECE903}
    >Adobe Photoshop CS2 9.0 msiexec /I
    >{236BB7C4-4419-42FD-0409-1E257A25E34D}
    >Adobe Reader 8 8.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-A80000000002}
    >Adobe Stock Photos 1.0 1.0.2 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{786C5747-1437-443D-B06E-79A00FE45110}
    >Amnesty Generator 0.60.0000 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{5B237E04-BC4E-43DF-84BA-7E8E1B7DE8F2}
    >Apple Software Update 1.1.0.3 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{A260B422-70E1-41E2-957D-F76FA21266D5}
    >Attansic Giga Ethernet Utility 1.0 RunDll32
    >C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\PROFES~1\RunTime\0700\Intel32\Ctor.dll,LaunchSetup
    >"C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation
    >Information\{1F698102-5739-441E-96F0-74F4EA540F06}\setup.exe" -l0x9
    >Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet Driver rundll32.exe
    >C:\Windows\system32\Attansic\L1\atcInst.dll,VisUninst
    >C:\Windows\system32\Attansic\L1 x86 pci\ven_1969&dev_1048
    >AutoUpdate 1.1
    >AVG 7.5 C:\Program
    >Files\Grisoft\AVG7\setup.exe /UNINSTALL
    >CD-LabelPrint "C:\Program
    >Files\CD-LabelPrint\Uninstal.exe" Canon.CDLabelPrint.Application
    >DivX Codec 6.4.0 C:\Program
    >Files\DivX\DivXCodecUninstall.exe /CODEC
    >DivX Content Uploader 1.0.0 C:\Program
    >Files\DivX\DivXContentUploaderUninstall.exe /CUPLOADER
    >DivX Converter 6.2.1 C:\Program
    >Files\DivX\ConverterUninstall.exe /CONVERTER
    >DivX Player 6.4 C:\Program
    >Files\DivX\DivXPlayerUninstall.exe /PLAYER
    >DivX Web Player 1.2.0 C:\Program
    >Files\DivX\DivXWebPlayerUninstall.exe /PLUGIN
    >DriveImage XML 1.21 "C:\Program
    >Files\Runtime Software\DriveImage XML\Uninstall.exe" "C:\Program Files\Runtime
    >Software\DriveImage XML\install.log" -u
    >FTP Voyager
    >C:\Windows\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\RhinoSoft.com\FTP
    >Voyager\Uninst.isu" -c"C:\Program Files\RhinoSoft.com\FTP Voyager\FVUninstall.dll"
    >Google Earth 3.0.0762 RunDll32
    >C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\PROFES~1\RunTime\10\01\Intel32\Ctor.dll,LaunchSetup
    >"C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation
    >Information\{3DE5E7D4-7B88-403C-A3FD-2017A8240C5B}\setup.exe" -l0x9 -removeonly
    >Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer regsvr32 /u /s
    >"c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll"
    >ISO Recorder 3.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{39600969-41C3-4658-876E-16F108FC5C92}
    >iTunes 7.1.1.5 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{AB90749C-7422-4580-8A7A-66CC5E9E5F98}
    >Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6 1.6.0.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{3248F0A8-6813-11D6-A77B-00B0D0160000}
    >Microsoft FrontPage 2002 10.0.6626.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{90170409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}
    >Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 11.0.7969.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    >Microsoft Office Visio Professional 2003 11.0.7969.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{90510409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    >Mozilla Firefox (2.0.0.3) 2.0.0.3 (en-US) C:\Program
    >Files\Mozilla Firefox\uninstall\helper.exe
    >Mozilla Thunderbird (1.5) 1.5 (en-US) C:\Program
    >Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\uninstall\uninstall.exe /ua "1.5 (en-US)"
    >Mp3 Tag Tools v1.2 "C:\Program
    >Files\Mp3TagToolsv12\uninstall.exe"
    >Nero 7 Ultra Edition 7.02.4712 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{FC98FBE9-E931-494C-8717-497185371033}
    >NewsBin Pro V5 5.01 C:\Program
    >Files\NewsBin\uninst.exe
    >Picasa 2 2.0 "C:\Program
    >Files\Picasa2\Uninstall.exe"
    >QuickTime 7.1.5.120 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{5E863175-E85D-44A6-8968-82507D34AE7F}
    >TVUPlayer 2.3.2.19 2.3.2.19 C:\Program
    >Files\TVUPlayer\uninst.exe
    >Windows Mobile Device Center 6.0.6783.0 MsiExec.exe
    >/I{1F2A5DF9-40E1-4644-ADBD-D80F347BA6C8}
    >WinZip 11.0 (7313) "C:\Program
    >Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE" /uninstall
    >µTorrent 1.6.1 "C:\Program
    >Files\uTorrent\uninstall.exe"



    Have a look at this then.

    Adobe: No Plans to Make Current Products Vista Compatible

    http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=38902
     
    Mathew Good, Mar 30, 2007
    #8
  9. In <> Mathew Good <mg@
    yahoo.org wrote:
    > On 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, "CM" <> wrote:
    >
    >>If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>
    >>Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~

    >
    >
    >
    > No buy a Computer that has XP..


    Me agree. Bad idea. No buy a computer that has XP.

    --
    * Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand -> http://roger.geek.nz
    * PS/2 Mouse Adapter for vintage Apple II or Mac
    * SCART RGB video cable for Apple IIGS
     
    Roger Johnstone, Mar 30, 2007
    #9
  10. Mathew Good wrote:
    > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:30:55 +1200, Collector»NZ <> wrote:
    >
    >> Mathew Good wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "CM" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:...
    >>>>> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>>>> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>>>> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>>>> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~
    >>>> Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html
    >>>>
    >>>> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
    >>>>
    >>>> I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >>>> a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >>>> XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >>>> I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >>>> VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >>>> XP or Linux.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Who in his right mind would get VISTA, Read the News its Utter CRAP..
    >>>
    >>> All the Adobe stuff with not run on it for one thing..
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Such as ???
    >>
    >> I have Vista ultimate and do not appear to have Adobe issues
    >>
    >> Below my installed software list and it all operates as expected
    >>
    >> ----- [Installed Programs]
    >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
    >>

    snipped
    >
    > Have a look at this then.
    >
    > Adobe: No Plans to Make Current Products Vista Compatible
    >
    > http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=38902


    As it says they dont intend to make current software compatible but they also
    dont say it wont run.

    It all runs for me (or at least that that I use)
     
    Collector»NZ, Mar 30, 2007
    #10
  11. CM

    Jack Guest

    "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    news:460ccef4$...

    > As it says they dont intend to make current software compatible but they
    > also dont say it wont run.
    >
    > It all runs for me (or at least that that I use)
    >

    All my Adobe programs run perfectly under Vista. The most criticisms of
    Vista are probably coming from people who are not actually using it. Some
    more BAD comments from Mr GOOD.
     
    Jack, Mar 30, 2007
    #11
  12. Jack wrote:
    > "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    > news:460ccef4$...
    >
    >> As it says they dont intend to make current software compatible but they
    >> also dont say it wont run.
    >>
    >> It all runs for me (or at least that that I use)
    >>

    > All my Adobe programs run perfectly under Vista. The most criticisms of
    > Vista are probably coming from people who are not actually using it. Some
    > more BAD comments from Mr GOOD.
    >
    >

    Not too many people in here have (as I have) actually gone got a legit copy of
    vista and suitable hardware to run it. Sure adobe products don't always have
    aero features, but that is no big loss and everything I expect to work in Adobe
    products I use does.

    Of course there are those so blind because of a bit of media hype about such
    things as DRM that just talk through a hole in there head and they havnt tried
    Vista either.
     
    Collector»NZ, Mar 30, 2007
    #12
  13. CM

    Jack Guest

    "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    news:460ce3df$...
    > Jack wrote:
    >> "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    >> news:460ccef4$...
    >>
    >>> As it says they dont intend to make current software compatible but they
    >>> also dont say it wont run.
    >>>
    >>> It all runs for me (or at least that that I use)
    >>>

    >> All my Adobe programs run perfectly under Vista. The most criticisms of
    >> Vista are probably coming from people who are not actually using it. Some
    >> more BAD comments from Mr GOOD.

    > Not too many people in here have (as I have) actually gone got a legit
    > copy of vista and suitable hardware to run it. Sure adobe products don't
    > always have aero features, but that is no big loss and everything I expect
    > to work in Adobe products I use does.
    >
    > Of course there are those so blind because of a bit of media hype about
    > such things as DRM that just talk through a hole in there head and they
    > havnt tried Vista either.


    If I had a showroom full of computers which had Windows XP on them, I would
    also be trying to convince people that Vista isn't ready yet and telling
    people to buy outdated computers.
     
    Jack, Mar 30, 2007
    #13
  14. CM

    Gib Bogle Guest

    Roger Johnstone wrote:
    > In <> Mathew Good <mg@
    > yahoo.org wrote:
    >> On 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, "CM" <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>>
    >>> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~

    >>
    >>
    >> No buy a Computer that has XP..

    >
    > Me agree. Bad idea. No buy a computer that has XP.
    >


    LOL
     
    Gib Bogle, Mar 30, 2007
    #14
  15. On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:51:47 -0700, CM wrote:

    > If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    > one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    > restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    > would XP not insall over the top of Vista?


    You'd need to format the C: drive and then install.


    --
    Dianthus Mimulus

    When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux.
    When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft.
     
    Dianthus Mimulus, Mar 30, 2007
    #15
  16. On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, Jack wrote:

    > I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    > a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    > XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    > I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    > VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    > XP or Linux.


    Vi$ta is a sugar-coated bitter pill.

    It's got a pretty GUI (that merely comes up to the standard that has been
    available on the MAC and on Linux for quite some time now) that is the
    sugar covering the bitter pill of DRM paranoia constantly going on under
    the hood consuming CPU time and constantly monitoring what you're doing
    with your PC.

    If you buy Vi$ta you're buying trouble for yourself.

    And lets not discuss the Vi$ta copy/paste bug.


    --
    Dianthus Mimulus

    When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux.
    When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft.
     
    Dianthus Mimulus, Mar 31, 2007
    #16
  17. CM

    Jack Guest

    "Dianthus Mimulus" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, Jack wrote:
    >
    >> I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to
    >> take
    >> a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer
    >> with
    >> XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From
    >> what
    >> I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >> VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay
    >> with
    >> XP or Linux.

    >
    > Vi$ta is a sugar-coated bitter pill.
    >
    > It's got a pretty GUI (that merely comes up to the standard that has been
    > available on the MAC and on Linux for quite some time now) that is the
    > sugar covering the bitter pill of DRM paranoia constantly going on under
    > the hood consuming CPU time and constantly monitoring what you're doing
    > with your PC.
    >
    > If you buy Vi$ta you're buying trouble for yourself.
    >
    > And lets not discuss the Vi$ta copy/paste bug.


    You're right out of your tree, stick to Linux and leave the educated to
    enjoy Vista.
     
    Jack, Mar 31, 2007
    #17
  18. CM

    Shane Guest

    Will Spencer wrote:

    > I've already converted two of my friends from Linux to Vista and they now
    > enjoy using their PC a whole lot more.
    >
    > -ws
    >


    The students that I speak to that have installed vista (and they are dyed in
    the wool Windows users) do not like Vista. Complaints about its use of
    resources, "I have a gig of Ram in my machine, after I installed Vista I
    was thinking half of my damn RAM has gone", the same student went on to
    complain about some reshuffle of something "I had to install google desktop
    just to find where everything was". And the other complaint I have hear
    was an observance by one student about the others Vista "Your desktop looks
    ghey"

    I havent heard any flattering reviews from the students yet, although that
    doesnt mean there arent any who like it.

    Further, I have recently done a bit of converting myself, of family members
    who had Windows, but were not in a position to buy AV (Retirees). They had
    been using windows for >7 years at home and work. I discussed their needs
    and it boiled down to email, web surfing, and the need to write documents
    (for their own viewing).
    As you can expect I installed linux on their Celeron 667 (with 256MB of RAM)
    *with* KDE. Its (IMO) slow to load apps, but once they are running they
    are quite snappy (eg firefox, kmail)
    But they rave about it (Actually I will admit to being surprised how quickly
    they made the jump)
    The only problem they have with the setup I have provided is launching their
    firefox does not trip KPPP and automatically dial out. I'm fairly sure
    this can be rectified, I honestly havent looked yet.
    What they most like about it is the piece of mind knowing that no
    spyware/viruses will take hold in their machine.
    I have also configured their machine for remote access (ssh to the fore) in
    the event I am required to look at it.
     
    Shane, Mar 31, 2007
    #18
  19. CM

    Will Spencer Guest

    On 31 Mar 2007 11:06:04 +1200, Dianthus Mimulus wrote:

    > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, Jack wrote:
    >
    >> I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >> a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >> XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >> I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >> VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >> XP or Linux.

    >
    > Vi$ta is a sugar-coated bitter pill.
    >
    > It's got a pretty GUI (that merely comes up to the standard that has been
    > available on the MAC and on Linux for quite some time now) that is the
    > sugar covering the bitter pill of DRM paranoia constantly going on under
    > the hood consuming CPU time and constantly monitoring what you're doing
    > with your PC.
    >
    > If you buy Vi$ta you're buying trouble for yourself.
    >
    > And lets not discuss the Vi$ta copy/paste bug.


    I've already converted two of my friends from Linux to Vista and they now
    enjoy using their PC a whole lot more.

    -ws

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
     
    Will Spencer, Mar 31, 2007
    #19
  20. CM

    Will Spencer Guest

    On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:51:15 +1200, Mathew Good wrote:

    > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:09:44 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"CM" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> If someone bought a computer with Vista on it (preinstalled) how would
    >>> one go about replacing it with XP? Would it simply be a case of
    >>> restarting the machine with the XP instalation disk in it, then? Or
    >>> would XP not insall over the top of Vista?
    >>>
    >>> Thoughts/suggestions/comments please~

    >>
    >>Do a search on internet and you will find articles like this:
    >>
    >>http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/707160.html
    >>
    >>http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
    >>
    >>I am working with VISTA and I find it's really good, you'd be crazy to take
    >>a giant leap backwards to XP. It's equally silly to buy a new computer with
    >>XP on it because it's too late now to get a free upgrade to VISTA. From what
    >>I can see, it's mainly those who are pushing Linux who are criticizing
    >>VISTA, but it's your choice and if you don't want to move forward, stay with
    >>XP or Linux.
    >>

    >
    > Who in his right mind would get VISTA, Read the News its Utter CRAP..
    >
    > All the Adobe stuff with not run on it for one thing..


    I've been checking out some of your posts and have decided you post the
    biggest pile of crap. Anyone who seriouly takes your advice would have to
    have been smoking crack for at least a week. Shades of Woger actually.
    Perhaps you're related.

    -ws

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
     
    Will Spencer, Mar 31, 2007
    #20
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