Ceatec: Toshiba to show laptop with HD-DVD drive.

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by Allan, Sep 27, 2005.

  1. Allan

    Allan Guest

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm?go=news.view&news=5107

    Ceatec: Toshiba to show laptop with HD-DVD drive
    by Sumner Lemon, IDG News Service (Taipei Bureau)

    Addition to Qosmio notebook line

    Toshiba plans to show its first notebook computer with a built-in
    HD-DVD drive at the Ceatec Japan 2005 exhibition next month, a company
    spokeswoman has revealed.

    The firm will show a new addition to its high-end Qosmio notebook line
    that will include an integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, according to Midori
    Suzuki, a representative of the company in Tokyo. The new drive will
    allow users to watch high-definition videos on their computers.

    “Toshiba is planning to commercialise the product at the beginning of
    next year,” Suzuki said.

    Few details of the HD-DVD-equipped notebook have been made available
    ahead of the Ceatec show, which will be held near Tokyo from 4-8
    October. The notebook will include a new high-resolution LCD.

    Suzuki declined to disclose additional details about the system.

    HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
    integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
    notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7mm high, according to Toshiba. The drive
    uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read HD-DVD
    discs and read and write to CD and DVD discs.

    Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
    noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
    developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.

    Suzuki said Toshiba has not decided how many Qosmio models will be
    equipped with the HD-DVD-ROM drive and no decision has been made
    regarding extending availability of the drive to the company’s other
    notebook PC lines.

    The HD-DVD-ROM drive is small enough to be used in small form-factor
    notebooks, according to Toshiba.


    **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
    the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **






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    Allan, Sep 27, 2005
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  2. Allan

    Alpha Guest

    "Allan" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    > http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm?go=news.view&news=5107
    >
    > Ceatec: Toshiba to show laptop with HD-DVD drive
    > by Sumner Lemon, IDG News Service (Taipei Bureau)
    >
    > Addition to Qosmio notebook line
    >
    > Toshiba plans to show its first notebook computer with a built-in
    > HD-DVD drive at the Ceatec Japan 2005 exhibition next month, a company
    > spokeswoman has revealed.
    >
    > The firm will show a new addition to its high-end Qosmio notebook line
    > that will include an integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, according to Midori
    > Suzuki, a representative of the company in Tokyo. The new drive will
    > allow users to watch high-definition videos on their computers.
    >
    > "Toshiba is planning to commercialise the product at the beginning of
    > next year," Suzuki said.
    >
    > Few details of the HD-DVD-equipped notebook have been made available
    > ahead of the Ceatec show, which will be held near Tokyo from 4-8
    > October. The notebook will include a new high-resolution LCD.
    >
    > Suzuki declined to disclose additional details about the system.
    >
    > HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
    > integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
    > notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7mm high, according to Toshiba. The drive
    > uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read HD-DVD
    > discs and read and write to CD and DVD discs.
    >
    > Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
    > noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
    > developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
    >
    > Suzuki said Toshiba has not decided how many Qosmio models will be
    > equipped with the HD-DVD-ROM drive and no decision has been made
    > regarding extending availability of the drive to the company's other
    > notebook PC lines.
    >
    > The HD-DVD-ROM drive is small enough to be used in small form-factor
    > notebooks, according to Toshiba.
    >
    >
    > **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
    > the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
    >

    ..
    This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that HD
    DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System (CCMS),
    whereas an article I read said that they did.

    Confused situation, I believe. I do not think anyone currently writing in
    the press, including the companies themselves, know what will appear for
    sure in early 2006.
     
    Alpha, Sep 27, 2005
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  3. Allan

    Jeff Rife Guest

    Alpha () wrote in alt.video.dvd:
    > > Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
    > > noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
    > > developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
    > >
    > >
    > > **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
    > > the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
    > >

    > .
    > This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that HD
    > DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System (CCMS),
    > whereas an article I read said that they did.


    Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
    computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    that are stored on those discs.

    --
    Jeff Rife | "I feel the need...the need for
    | expeditious velocity"
    |
    | -- Brain
     
    Jeff Rife, Sep 27, 2005
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  4. Allan

    Alpha Guest

    "Jeff Rife" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Alpha () wrote in alt.video.dvd:
    >> > Initially, HD-DVD discs will have a capacity of 30GB, Toshiba said,
    >> > noting that higher-capacity versions are anticipated. The company has
    >> > developed a prototype HD-DVD with a capacity of 45GB.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > **Hmm... wonder if this notebook will need a permanent connection to
    >> > the internet to work? Some how, I doubt it. **
    >> >

    >> .
    >> This is a good question. The other article you cite below implies that
    >> HD
    >> DVD did not sign on to the Comprehensive Content Management System
    >> (CCMS),
    >> whereas an article I read said that they did.

    >
    > Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    > I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
    > that
    > computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    > that are stored on those discs.



    That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
    able to...
     
    Alpha, Sep 28, 2005
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  5. Allan

    Jeff Rife Guest

    Alpha () wrote in alt.video.dvd:
    > > Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    > > I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
    > > that
    > > computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    > > that are stored on those discs.

    >
    >
    > That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
    > able to...


    If they allow it, that will be the weak point in the security system, as it
    was for CSS.

    I think the grab for money from the MPAA and CE companies will cause them
    to allow software players, because they will get a cut of each sale. They
    won't see that if piracy really is the problem they say it is, losing the
    fairly small amount of cash from the software licensing ($250 million tops)
    is a small price to pay to save the more than $2B they claim to lose each
    year to piracy.

    --
    Jeff Rife | "When I first heard that Marge was joining the
    | police academy, I thought it would be fun and
    | zany, like that movie: Spaceballs. But instead
    | it was dark and disturbing, like that movie:
    | Police Academy."
    | -- Homer Simpson
     
    Jeff Rife, Sep 28, 2005
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  6. Allan

    Allan Guest

    On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:27:35 -0700, "Alpha" <> wrote:

    >Confused situation, I believe. I do not think anyone currently writing in
    >the press, including the companies themselves, know what will appear for
    >sure in early 2006.


    For once we might agree! Shame these marketing departments have not
    come and answered some very basic questions about these formats.

    They leave them up to "internet rumors"; doing neither the companies
    in question... nor the consumer, a good service.






    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
     
    Allan, Sep 28, 2005
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  7. Allan

    Allan Guest

    On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <> wrote:

    >Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    >I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
    >computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    >that are stored on those discs.


    So the assumption has never been that if you put a HD DVD in a HD DVD
    Drive in your high end laptop that it would play with no problem?

    A DVD in a DVD Rom should play?

    A Cd in a CD ROM?

    These are "odd: statements?






    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
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    Allan, Sep 28, 2005
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  8. Allan

    Allan Guest

    On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16:49 -0700, "Alpha" <> wrote:


    >That is an interesting point, indeed. I think everyone assumes you will be
    >able to...



    "I think everyone assumes you will be able to..."

    Naturally.






    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
     
    Allan, Sep 28, 2005
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  9. Allan

    Allan Guest

    On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <> wrote:

    >Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    >I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement that
    >computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    >that are stored on those discs.



    "HD-DVD Inside

    HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
    integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
    notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7 millimeters high, according to Toshiba.
    The drive uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read
    HD-DVD discs and can read and write to CD and DVD discs, the company
    said."


    http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122741,00.asp






    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
     
    Allan, Sep 29, 2005
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  10. Allan

    Alpha Guest

    "Allan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:39:24 -0400, Jeff Rife <> wrote:
    >
    >>Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    >>I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
    >>that
    >>computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    >>that are stored on those discs.

    >
    >
    > "HD-DVD Inside
    >
    > HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
    > integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
    > notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7 millimeters high, according to Toshiba.
    > The drive uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read
    > HD-DVD discs and can read and write to CD and DVD discs, the company
    > said."
    >
    >
    > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122741,00.asp
    >


    DVD does not mean video. Further, if it is video, it would apparently need
    a network connection to work with that video.

    We will see.
     
    Alpha, Sep 29, 2005
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  11. Allan

    Allan Guest

    On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:23:48 -0700, "Alpha" <> wrote:

    >>>Since the article only says that the notebook will have an HD-DVD drive,
    >>>I don't see what the confusion is. There has never been any statement
    >>>that
    >>>computer-based HD-DVD (or BluRay) drives will allow you to play HD movies
    >>>that are stored on those discs.

    >>
    >>
    >> "HD-DVD Inside
    >>
    >> HD-DVD is a next-generation DVD format developed by the DVD Forum. The
    >> integrated HD-DVD-ROM drive, which will be shown with the Qosmio
    >> notebook at Ceatec, is 12.7 millimeters high, according to Toshiba.
    >> The drive uses a pick-up head with a single optical lens that can read
    >> HD-DVD discs and can read and write to CD and DVD discs, the company
    >> said."
    >>
    >>
    >> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122741,00.asp
    >>

    >
    >DVD does not mean video. Further, if it is video, it would apparently need
    >a network connection to work with that video.
    >
    >We will see.


    Well so far I haven't read any other uses for HD DVD other than Video,
    but naturally it will come.

    Would expect the generation of Microsoft windows to be released on HD
    DVD.






    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
     
    Allan, Sep 29, 2005
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