Cant get messenger to login, or to the microsoft websites...

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Richard, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Changed routers yesterday (or the day before)

    Not sure if thats the problem or not but now I cant get to some
    microsoft sites (www.microsoft.com, msn.com - dead, live.com and some
    others fine)

    They are resolving but no connectivity.
    C:\Windows\system32>tracert microsoft.com

    Tracing route to microsoft.com [207.46.197.32]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms jonsrouter.home.local [192.168.1.1]
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms vlan998-31.fx.cust.tranzpeer.net
    [202.180.81.31]

    4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms vlan94-cpcak3-e1.tranzpeer.net
    [202.180.82.82]
    5 14 ms 8 ms 8 ms vlan7-cpcak3-s1.tranzpeer.net
    [202.180.81.49]
    6 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms vlan9-cpcak1-s1.tranzpeer.net
    [202.180.83.133]
    7 9 ms 13 ms 21 ms ip-202-147-46-233.asianetcom.net
    [202.147.46.233
    ]
    8 9 ms 9 ms 13 ms gi9-3.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net
    [202.147.55.209]
    9 171 ms 171 ms 173 ms po8-3.gw1.sjc1.asianetcom.net
    [202.147.55.206]
    10 164 ms 161 ms 164 ms po1-0.gw2.sjc1.asianetcom.net
    [202.147.50.166]
    11 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms ip-202-147-50-122.asianetcom.net
    [202.147.50.122
    ]
    12 162 ms 162 ms 162 ms ge-6-3-0-55.sjc-64cb-1b.ntwk.msn.net
    [207.46.37.
    197]
    13 164 ms 163 ms 162 ms ge-7-2-0-0.pao-64cb-1b.ntwk.msn.net
    [207.46.34.2
    2]
    14 180 ms 189 ms 184 ms ge-1-2-0-0.tuk-64cb-1b.ntwk.msn.net
    [207.46.33.2
    22]
    15 181 ms 183 ms 190 ms ge-0-1-0-0.cpk-64c-1b.ntwk.msn.net
    [207.46.35.10
    ]
    16 180 ms 180 ms 186 ms ten2-4.cpk-76c-1b.ntwk.msn.net
    [207.46.34.114]
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * *

    So, before I try more troubleshooting is it working fine for everyone
    else? Other stuffs fine other then the crap performance from slingshot
    thisevening.
     
    Richard, Sep 17, 2008
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  2. Richard

    Richard Guest

    ChrisOD wrote:
    >
    > Of course if an MTU of 1430 doesn't fix it then something else is fuxored!
    >
    > HTH
    > Chris


    I had already dropped the MTU down when I set it up, but when I changed
    it up to 1500 it started to work. The router is the hop after
    192.168.1.1 which is the linux box with asterisk and QOS on it, I dont
    know why its not.

    I have always had 1476 as the MTU on my routers in the past so I have no
    idea why this netgear is any different. At least this one goes for a
    long time without a restart and does adsl2+
     
    Richard, Sep 18, 2008
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  3. In message <>, ChrisOD wrote:

    > ... and MS webservers by default (for some unknown reason) set the
    > DO_NOT_FRAGMENT bit ...


    I think IPv6 removes the fragmentation option.

    > ...and many clueless security people disallow a huge amount or even all
    > ICMP so PMTU discover breaks.


    Some things like PCI compliance might require this kind of stupidity. One
    security scan even complained about ICMP returning time stamps--saying that
    knowing the correct time on the server could be a security hole...
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Sep 18, 2008
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  4. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    > In message <>, ChrisOD wrote:
    >
    >> ... and MS webservers by default (for some unknown reason) set the
    >> DO_NOT_FRAGMENT bit ...

    >
    > I think IPv6 removes the fragmentation option.
    >
    >> ...and many clueless security people disallow a huge amount or even all
    >> ICMP so PMTU discover breaks.

    >
    > Some things like PCI compliance might require this kind of stupidity. One
    > security scan even complained about ICMP returning time stamps--saying that
    > knowing the correct time on the server could be a security hole...


    Yeah, like the ones that want you to hide your ssid and break all the
    things that having the network discoverable allows, just to stop it
    coming up on a list in windows wireless network list, negating the fact
    that if there are computers using it there are craploads of packets
    flying around with the essid in them ;)
     
    Richard, Sep 18, 2008
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