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    > http://www.camcordersonsale.com/camcorder-hard-drive.html
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    Bob, May 8, 2008
    #2
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  3. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    "Bob" <> wrote in news:5GDUj.149445$XH2.65919
    @fe03.news.easynews.com:

    > IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!


    Forward original message with full headers to:

    (original poster's newsgroup account)
    (original poster's ISP)
    (original poster's web host for camcordersonsale.com)




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    #3
  4. Larry in AZ Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    Waiving the right to remain silent, "Bob" <> said:

    > IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!


    And imagine YOU quoting all 400 lines of his spam!

    --
    Larry Jandro
    Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
    Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
    [Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to reply]
     
    Larry in AZ, May 8, 2008
    #4
  5. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    "Jacques E. Bouchard" wrote ...
    > "Bob" <> wrote :
    >
    >> IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!

    >
    > Forward original message with full headers to:


    Good luck with that. None of those providers gives a rip.

    PLEASE DON'T REGURGITATE THE ENTIRE SPAM
    MESSAGE BACK TO THE NEWSGROUP! IT MAKES
    YOU JUST AS BAD AS THEM!!
     
    Richard Crowley, May 8, 2008
    #5
  6. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    "Richard Crowley" <> wrote in news:68gmdkF2sv557U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    > "Jacques E. Bouchard" wrote ...
    >> "Bob" <> wrote :
    >>
    >>> IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!

    >>
    >> Forward original message with full headers to:

    >
    > Good luck with that. None of those providers gives a rip.


    Didn't know you were intimately aware of the policies of Verizon and
    theplanet.com.

    Reporting beats just whining about it.


    jaybee
     
    Jacques E. Bouchard, May 8, 2008
    #6
  7. mja Guest

    Bob wrote:

    >IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!
    ><> wrote in message
    >
    >



    Next time you want to reply to an obvious spam / scam - please delete
    all the links.
     
    mja, May 8, 2008
    #7
  8. Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    In rec.video.production Jacques E. Bouchard <> wrote:

    | "Bob" <> wrote in news:5GDUj.149445$XH2.65919
    | @fe03.news.easynews.com:
    |
    |> IMAGINE YOU SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP!
    |
    | Forward original message with full headers to:
    |
    | (original poster's newsgroup account)
    | (original poster's ISP)
    | (original poster's web host for camcordersonsale.com)

    You think that will help? All THREE of these have a long and steady
    track record of not giving a damn and just ignoring complaints, though
    Verizon is know to occaisionally suspend accounts of customers that
    have been passing spam through for a while.

    The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most
    is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very few smart people that
    have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out
    another place to post from.

    Lift the filter every couple months and see if the spamming has stopped.
     
    , May 9, 2008
    #8
  9. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    wrote in news::

    > The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    > message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most
    > is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very few smart people that
    > have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out
    > another place to post from.


    The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously
    spam. You overestimate the incentive for Google Groups users to find a news
    server.


    jaybee
     
    Jacques E. Bouchard, May 13, 2008
    #9
  10. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    "Jacques E. Bouchard" wrote ...
    > You overestimate the incentive for Google Groups users to
    > find a news server.


    And conversely GoogleGroups users overestimate our incentive
    to respond to (or even read) their postings.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 13, 2008
    #10
  11. clams_casino Guest

    Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:

    > wrote in news::
    >
    >
    >
    >>The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    >>message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most
    >>is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very few smart people that
    >>have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out
    >>another place to post from.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously
    >spam. You overestimate the incentive for Google Groups users to find a news
    >server.
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor. Since Google does
    nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses
    just google groups.

    If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of
    all the spam on newsgroups.
     
    clams_casino, May 13, 2008
    #11
  12. Rod Speed Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    clams_casino <> wrote
    > Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
    >> wrote


    >>> The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    >>> message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very
    >>> few smart people that have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out another place to post
    >>> from.


    >> The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
    >> Google Groups users to find a news server.


    > Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.


    Nope.

    > Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.


    Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

    > If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.


    And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

    Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely
    no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.
     
    Rod Speed, May 13, 2008
    #12
  13. Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    "Rod Speed" wrote ...
    > clams_casino wrote
    >> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.

    >
    > Nope.


    I wouldn't say "big favor". Certainly the Google Groups
    Archives is an enormously important cyber-resource.

    However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening
    Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface seems
    mostly negative IMHO.

    I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common
    sense to keep it useful and managable, and that is lost when a big
    corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.

    >> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every
    >> spammer now uses just google groups.

    >
    > Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.


    Then they can take their chances that people will read their
    messages from SpamCentral. No shoes, no shirt, no service.

    >> If you filter all google group postings,


    Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
    Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

    >> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.

    >
    > And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.


    That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
    I have little sympathy for them.

    > Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,


    I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems
    just as useful and vigorous as ever. Perhaps it depends on
    which NGs you're reading.

    > it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the
    > remaining non spam posters.


    Again, perhaps it depends on which NGs you're talking
    about. But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
    that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 13, 2008
    #13
  14. clams_casino Guest

    Rod Speed wrote:

    >clams_casino <> wrote
    >
    >
    >>Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
    >>
    >>
    >>> wrote
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
    >
    >>>>The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    >>>>message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very
    >>>>few smart people that have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out another place to post
    >>>>from.
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >
    >
    >
    >>>The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
    >>>Google Groups users to find a news server.
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
    >
    >>Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Nope.
    >
    >
    >
    >>Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.
    >
    >
    >
    >>If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.
    >
    >Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely
    >no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.
    >
    >
    >
    >

    There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
    certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
    postings..
     
    clams_casino, May 13, 2008
    #14
  15. Rod Speed Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    Richard Crowley <> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> clams_casino wrote


    >>> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.


    >> Nope.


    > I wouldn't say "big favor". Certainly the Google Groups
    > Archives is an enormously important cyber-resource.


    Different matter entirely to being able to POST from groups google, what is being discussed.

    > However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface seems
    > mostly negative IMHO.


    What I said in different words.

    > I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to keep it useful and managable,


    No it doesnt.

    > and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.


    Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.

    If they actually did something about those who post spam using their
    service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would be improved by
    attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.

    And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.

    >>> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.


    >> Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.


    > Then they can take their chances that people will read their
    > messages from SpamCentral. No shoes, no shirt, no service.


    Or they can tell fools like that one that his approach is terminally stupid.

    >>> If you filter all google group postings,


    > Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
    > Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(


    Wrong.

    >>> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.


    >> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.


    > That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
    > I have little sympathy for them.


    You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

    >> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,


    > I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems just as useful and vigorous as ever.


    Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to.

    The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.

    > Perhaps it depends on which NGs you're reading.


    Nope, and its trivial to use groups.google to prove that.

    >> it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.


    > Again, perhaps it depends on which NGs you're talking about.


    Nope, and its trivial to use groups.google to prove that.

    > But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
    > that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.


    You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

    In spades when you cant even manage to work out which non spam posts are done from there.
     
    Rod Speed, May 14, 2008
    #15
  16. Rod Speed Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    clams_casino <> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> clams_casino <> wrote
    >>> Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
    >>>> wrote


    >>>>> The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
    >>>>> message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the
    >>>>> very few smart
    >>>>> people that have been using it because they like web interfaces
    >>>>> will figure out another place to post from.


    >>>> The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
    >>>> Google Groups users to find a news server.


    >>> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.


    >> Nope.


    >>> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.


    >> Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.


    >>> If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9%
    >>> of all the spam on newsgroups.


    >> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.


    >> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the
    >> remaining non spam posters.


    > There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -


    Wrong, as always.

    > certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group postings..


    Wrong, as always.
     
    Rod Speed, May 14, 2008
    #16
  17. clams_casino wrote:
    >>

    > There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
    > certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
    > postings..


    I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have replied
    to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
    It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and
    later denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is
    posted they tend to depart the thread.
     
    George Grapman, May 14, 2008
    #17
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    "Rod Speed" <> wrote ...
    > Richard Crowley <> wrote
    >> I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to
    >> keep it useful and managable,

    >
    > No it doesnt.


    Sure it does. And Google's lack of attention is precisely what
    is causing the problem under discussion right now.

    >> and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.)
    >> decides to dabble.

    >
    > Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.


    Which in Google's case, appears to be nothing.
    And by their own admission, so it isn't just anecdotal
    or circumstantial evidence.

    > If they actually did something about those who post spam using their
    > service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would be improved by
    > attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.


    "those who wouldn't otherwise even be aware that usenet exists"
    rarely post anything really useful. Not on the NGs that I read.
    And I'm not even talking about the spam messages.

    > And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.


    Sure it is. But it costs $$$$ to hire people to use their judgement
    to decide who the abusers are and how to block them. Google
    doesn't want to do that, so we all suffer from their neglect and/or
    apathy. That is the problem in a nutshell.

    >> Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
    >> Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

    >
    > Wrong.


    Without an actual example, it is just a word.

    > You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
    > irrelevant.


    I never claimed otherwise, but thanks for noticing. :)

    > The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.


    Then I KNOW you are talking about different newsgroups
    than I am. I only read less than a dozen newsgroups and
    frequently the daily volume is too great to read everything.

    It is also springtime here in the northern hemisphere and
    more people are doing things outdoors which contributes
    to a slight seasonal drop in online traffic. But perhaps you
    haven't been using Usenet long enough to notice that.

    > You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
    > irrelevant.


    Now you're just repeating yourself.

    You might have better credibility youself if you weren't claiming a
    gmail return address. GoogleGroups and Gmail are the prime
    sources of current Usenet spam. More people are blocking
    anything from GoogleGroups and/or from people with gmail
    addresses. FYI
     
    Richard Crowley, May 14, 2008
    #18
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    "George Grapman" wrote ...
    > clams_casino wrote:
    >>>

    >> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
    >> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
    >> postings..

    >
    > I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have replied
    > to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
    > It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and later
    > denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is posted
    > they tend to depart the thread.


    You appear to be refereing to the Archives functionality
    which pre-dated Google's online web-based posting
    mechanisms.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 14, 2008
    #19
  20. Rod Speed Guest

    Re: Camcorder Hard Drive - Find Tips - SALES on Camcorders all Brand Names

    Richard Crowley <> wrote
    > Rod Speed <> wrote
    >> Richard Crowley <> wrote


    >>> However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface
    >>> seems mostly negative IMHO.


    >> What I said in different words.


    >>> I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to keep it useful and managable,


    >> No it doesnt.


    > Sure it does.


    Nope.

    > And Google's lack of attention is precisely what
    > is causing the problem under discussion right now.


    Nothing like what you said previously.

    >>> and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.


    >> Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.


    > Which in Google's case, appears to be nothing.


    Yes, but it isnt the only thing they could have done.

    So your crap about big corporate players is just that, mindlessly silly crap.

    > And by their own admission, so it isn't just anecdotal or circumstantial evidence.


    Irrelevant to whether your crap about big corporate players is just that, mindlessly silly crap.

    >> If they actually did something about those who post spam using their service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would
    >> be improved by attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.


    > "those who wouldn't otherwise even be aware that usenet exists"
    > rarely post anything really useful.


    Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

    In spades with those who come across usenet because of
    google and who then contribute to usenet just like the others
    have done who have discovered usenet some other way.

    > Not on the NGs that I read.


    Then you need to get out more.

    > And I'm not even talking about the spam messages.


    Sure.

    >> And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.


    > Sure it is. But it costs $$$$ to hire people to use their judgement
    > to decide who the abusers are and how to block them.


    Nope, its perfectly feasible to automate the detection of the worst of it.

    > Google doesn't want to do that,


    Because of the inevitable cost of that stupid approach.

    > so we all suffer from their neglect and/or apathy. That is the problem in a nutshell.


    But it doesnt have to always be a problem, in spite of your stupid claim.

    >>> Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
    >>> Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(


    >> Wrong.


    > Without an actual example, it is just a word.


    Its also a fact.

    >>>>> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.


    >>>> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.


    >>> That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
    >>> I have little sympathy for them.


    >> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.


    > I never claimed otherwise, but thanks for noticing. :)


    Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

    >>>> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,


    >>> I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems just as useful and vigorous as ever.


    >> Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to.


    >> The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.


    > Then I KNOW you are talking about different newsgroups than I am.


    Nope.

    > I only read less than a dozen newsgroups and frequently the daily volume is too great to read everything.


    Only if your lips move when you read.

    And irrelevant to your stupid claim about whats happened since its heyday anyway.

    > It is also springtime here in the northern hemisphere and
    > more people are doing things outdoors which contributes
    > to a slight seasonal drop in online traffic. But perhaps you
    > haven't been using Usenet long enough to notice that.


    Been using it since LONG before you ever have thanks.

    >>> But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
    >>> that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.


    >> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.


    > Now you're just repeating yourself.


    It sometimes helps with pig ignorant fools like you.

    > You might have better credibility youself if you weren't claiming a gmail return address.


    Nope. I use it here just because its spam filtering is much better than the
    other free alternatives and I prefer not to fart around with munging the address.

    > GoogleGroups and Gmail are the prime sources of current Usenet spam.


    Irrelevant to whether its useful in that particular situation.

    > More people are blocking anything from GoogleGroups and/or from people with gmail addresses.


    Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

    And even someone as stupid as you should be able to see who does reply to my posts.

    > FYI


    GTE
     
    Rod Speed, May 14, 2008
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