C.O.L.A. Newcomer FAQ and Primer Edition 11 1/19/07

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    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    + +
    + C.O.L.A. Newcomer FAQ and Primer +
    + Edition: 11 - 1/19/07 +
    + Group: comp.os.linux.advocacy +
    + +
    + Copyright (c) 2002-2007 Linux Reality Team +
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Welcome to comp.os.linux.advocacy, otherwise known as cola. This
    FAQ will try to address most of the issues regarding Linux and
    this group. Unlike the other FAQs, this one will try to be as
    realistic as possible. If you want the straight information from
    real people, continue reading. If you would like to be told what
    you want to hear, or read a bunch of misinformation that you will
    regret later as you find things don't work as they should, feel free
    to read one of the other "FAQS" in here.

    OK, on to the info! ADDED NEW SECTION BELOW!

    Here's a list of some frequently asked and answered question here
    and elsewhere that you may find useful in your quest to try linux.
    Read these carefully before you decide to invest time in Linux, you
    may find that you have better things you can do instead.

    SECTION ONE - INSTALLATION
    --------------------------

    1.1 Q: I heard linux was easy to install, is it?
    A: That depends on what distro you try. Most of them will have
    trouble detecting all your hardware. Most new hardware devices
    are not supported. If your lucky you might be able to find
    something that someone threw together on the net. But that's
    after spending a couple hours searching and probably won't take
    advantage of your hardware to it's fullest capability.

    1.2 Q: Once I get it installed, then what?
    A: Then you get the joy of making sure everything is configured
    right. Plan on a minimum of two hours per device to get it to
    work. That's if the device is even supported.

    1.3 Q: What happens if I'm in the middle of an install and the
    installation freezes or just stops?
    A: You get to reboot and start all over again. :) This happens
    every so often with Linux. It seems like it's buggy install
    routines or something. Ain't Linux grand? :)

    1.4 Q: What's the deal?! I installed Linux and it took up almost 2GB
    hard drive space!
    A: The Linux distros usually install a LOT of never-used programs
    on the default install. You can pick and choose what you want,
    but good luck figuring out what programs are needed and what is
    useless, obscure tools. Linux usually installs stuff like 10
    different editors, 12 different mail clients, and so on.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION TWO - CONFIGURATION
    ---------------------------

    2.1 Q: What's with all these cryptic files?
    A: All of Linux is configured with cryptic text files. Some of
    the more user-friendly distros have configuration utilities
    that claim to do it for you, but success with these works
    sometimes and other times don't, so sometimes you have to
    edit them by hand. With Linux's spotty reliability in UI
    programming, you might as well get used to it.

    2.2 Q: What is killall, HUP, ls, cat, rm, which, etc and why are
    these programs telling me to do them? Arggg!!
    A: These are command line programs that do things within the
    system. It's what makes Linux a powerful OS for those that
    are experienced with it. But it's also what makes it a pain
    in the arse to use and inefficient as a desktop system. Who
    wants to type all the time when they can just click?!

    (more to come...)

    SECTION THREE - APPLICATIONS
    ----------------------------

    3.1 Q: Where can I get some programs to run on linux?
    A: Good question. Because Linux doesn't have a large user base
    on the desktop,(I think it's about 0.24%, less than 1%)
    companies that make software won't write their programs for
    Linux. There's a lot of community created programs out there,
    and some are fairly good, but those are few and far between.
    Most of the Linux software that tries to mimic it's windows
    counterpart is substandard. It's usually slow and buggy and
    early in development.

    3.2 Q: I tried to install an RPM but I got 'failed dependencies', what
    is that?
    A: That's Linux's version of DLL hell. Different versions and
    distros use different libraries. So unlike windows where
    programs will run on many different versions, Linux programs
    will fail if they're not made for your specific version.

    3.3 Q: What is compiling and configure, make and make install? And
    what is a makefile?
    A: This is a way to build the programs from the source code
    under Linux. When the question above fails, you can always
    build it yourself. The advantage is that it works most of
    the time. The disadvantage is that it takes forever to build
    large programs, you need to know some cryptic commands and
    you have to do all this on a command line. Unlike Windows
    where you just double click and you are done.

    3.4 Q: Can I go to my local store to buy any Linux applications?
    A: Not really. You can buy Linux itself at various stores. But
    not too many commercial companies make applications for Linux,
    there's no profit in it with 0.24% of the desktop market.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION FOUR - SPEED ISSUES
    ---------------------------

    4.1 Q: Why is Linux so slow?
    A: Linux is built on the technology of the old UNIX OS's. Even
    the graphical user interface of Linux is a separate program
    that
    is the same type they used back in the older UNIX days. So
    working with old technology will give you the old technology
    responsiveness. Also, a lot of the GUI's, although nice to look
    at, are still not mature. Using them is slow and sluggish
    compared to, say, Windows.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION FIVE - CONSISTENCY
    --------------------------

    5.1 Q: Why are the windows different looking?
    A: Since Linux isn't built by one company, group or have any
    governing body, programs and interfaces can vary dramatically.
    You can have everything from the nice look of KDE, to something
    as ugly as TK and everything in between. You'll usually see
    some
    varying UI stile in Linux.

    5.2 Q: Should I buy Suse Linux?
    A: No. They make it difficult to get it for free. All the other
    distros provide free ISO's to download. Suse is the only one
    that doesn't provide them but instead has a FTP install that's
    hard to get to work. Why should they make it easy? The more
    people that can't get the download to work have to spend $80
    or more for the boxed set. And on top of all that although
    it might have a few more user friendly tools, it's still the
    same base Linux system that's in development and that all the
    other distros are using. In other words, they're all on about
    the same level of struggling to catch up to Windows, so you're
    not going to find any earth-shattering features in one compared
    to another.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION SIX - LINUX COMMUNITY
    -----------------------------

    6.1 Q: What is RTFM?!
    A: This is an acronym for Read The Fuc*ing Manual. This is a
    common
    answer you'll get when asking for help in the Linux community.
    It's meant to make you feel inadequate while boating the Linux
    persons ego at the same time. See, Linux enthusiasts consider
    themselves to be guru like and above helping out the simple
    newbie. You have to earn your respect by spending countless
    hours becoming a kernel hacker before you're worthy of getting
    any help.

    6.2 Q: Why does everyone think they are better than you when using
    Linux?
    A: Same as above. When people use Linux they believe since it
    takes
    a little more knowledge to use Linux, they are technically
    superior,
    and see themselves as an elite group that doesn't have time for
    the
    pathetic little Windows people.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION SEVEN - LINUX ADVOCACY, HELPING OR HURTING?
    ---------------------------------------------------

    7.1 Q: Everyone in here says linux is perfect, why would they say that
    if it isn't?
    A: We really don't know. Maybe they've used Linux so long that
    they've gotten used to it. Some of these people haven't used
    Windows in years so they are comparing Linux to the last
    windows
    they used, maybe Windows 3.1 or 95.

    7.2 Q: Why does everyone call you a troll when you ask something that
    questions linux?
    A: Most of the people here in C.O.L.A. think of Linux more like a
    religion than an OS. They mostly are MS haters and feel that
    Linux is the greatest thing to ever hit computing. So when
    someone questions Linux it's like questioning their belief
    system. Instead of looking at it with some logic and
    reasonable
    judgment, they will lash out at you can't claim your are a
    troll
    or a paid MS supporter.

    7.3 Q: Why does everyone <PLONK> you if you question Linux?
    A: Fairly similar to above, Linux advocates can not argue their
    point rationally. So to make it look like you are under them
    or
    you are not worth it, and at the same time find an easy way out
    of having to prove themselves, they will <PLONK> you.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION EIGHT - LINUX EVANGELISM, ZEALOTS
    -----------------------------------------

    8.1 Q: There are some people that call this FAQ lies and seem to treat
    it
    like it's a conspiracy against them, and post all sorts of
    links
    to
    anti-microsoft articles. Why are they reacting so strongly?
    A: The people that are reacting so strongly are most likely the
    Linux
    extremists that believe everything negitive that is said about
    Linux
    comes from Microsoft. Like many cult-like groups, the people
    that
    belong to them don't have the ability to see things rationally
    or
    outside of their view. If someone replies to the FAQ, or
    anything
    questioning a non-favorable view on Linux, that seems a little
    "over the edge", do a google search on the person
    (http://groups.google.com/) and look at his/her posting history
    then
    decide for yourself if the person is credible or not.

    (more to come...)
    , Sep 23, 2007
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    On Sep 23, 6:01 pm, 7 <> wrote:
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    >
    > Have you De-Pistified your PC?
    >
    > Let me explain:
    >
    > You bought vista crap from our sponsor micoshaft corporation
    > and you realize after hours of reboots and re-installs
    > that our sponsor micoshaft has taken the piss out of you. So you
    > decide that this vista Pista is not for you.
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    > more hours and all your driver
    > diskettes are mislaid/lost and application cds are fscked
    > because your dog has been shagging it for some time, etc, etc, etc.
    > Oh Smuck is me you cry out in vain as your PC craps out on you
    > leaving you with nothing despite you having paid truck loads of money.
    >
    > Then light at the end of the tunnel appears in the form
    > of Linux. Now you get angry and use Linux in anger to recover
    > you data. RAAAAARRRrrrr... you growl through into the night
    > recovering data, learning GNU/Linux and by midnight all your
    > work is done, your computers are working, you learned many
    > things and Linux with Beryl is the king. You can sleep in peace
    > knowing Linux is your friend and share your dreams
    > with others...
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    Proof that Linux makes you brain damaged.
    You fools can't even manage to locate a decent spell checker.

    Must be that Open Office garbage you are always claiming is as good as
    MSOffice.
    , Sep 23, 2007
    #3
  4. Curt Christianson, Sep 23, 2007
    #4
  5. Guest

    On Sep 23, 5:55 pm, wrote:
    > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    > + +
    > + C.O.L.A. Newcomer FAQ and Primer +
    > + Edition: 11 - 1/19/07 +
    > + Group: comp.os.linux.advocacy +
    > + +
    > + Copyright (c) 2002-2007 Linux Reality Team +
    > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    >
    > Welcome to comp.os.linux.advocacy, otherwise known as cola. This
    > FAQ will try to address most of the issues regarding Linux and
    > this group. Unlike the other FAQs, this one will try to be as
    > realistic as possible. If you want the straight information from
    > real people, continue reading. If you would like to be told what
    > you want to hear, or read a bunch of misinformation that you will
    > regret later as you find things don't work as they should, feel free
    > to read one of the other "FAQS" in here.
    >
    > OK, on to the info! ADDED NEW SECTION BELOW!
    >
    > Here's a list of some frequently asked and answered question here
    > and elsewhere that you may find useful in your quest to try linux.
    > Read these carefully before you decide to invest time in Linux, you
    > may find that you have better things you can do instead.
    >
    > SECTION ONE - INSTALLATION
    > --------------------------
    >
    > 1.1 Q: I heard linux was easy to install, is it?
    > A: That depends on what distro you try. Most of them will have
    > trouble detecting all your hardware. Most new hardware devices
    > are not supported. If your lucky you might be able to find
    > something that someone threw together on the net. But that's
    > after spending a couple hours searching and probably won't take
    > advantage of your hardware to it's fullest capability.
    >
    > 1.2 Q: Once I get it installed, then what?
    > A: Then you get the joy of making sure everything is configured
    > right. Plan on a minimum of two hours per device to get it to
    > work. That's if the device is even supported.
    >
    > 1.3 Q: What happens if I'm in the middle of an install and the
    > installation freezes or just stops?
    > A: You get to reboot and start all over again. :) This happens
    > every so often with Linux. It seems like it's buggy install
    > routines or something. Ain't Linux grand? :)
    >
    > 1.4 Q: What's the deal?! I installed Linux and it took up almost 2GB
    > hard drive space!
    > A: The Linux distros usually install a LOT of never-used programs
    > on the default install. You can pick and choose what you want,
    > but good luck figuring out what programs are needed and what is
    > useless, obscure tools. Linux usually installs stuff like 10
    > different editors, 12 different mail clients, and so on.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION TWO - CONFIGURATION
    > ---------------------------
    >
    > 2.1 Q: What's with all these cryptic files?
    > A: All of Linux is configured with cryptic text files. Some of
    > the more user-friendly distros have configuration utilities
    > that claim to do it for you, but success with these works
    > sometimes and other times don't, so sometimes you have to
    > edit them by hand. With Linux's spotty reliability in UI
    > programming, you might as well get used to it.
    >
    > 2.2 Q: What is killall, HUP, ls, cat, rm, which, etc and why are
    > these programs telling me to do them? Arggg!!
    > A: These are command line programs that do things within the
    > system. It's what makes Linux a powerful OS for those that
    > are experienced with it. But it's also what makes it a pain
    > in the arse to use and inefficient as a desktop system. Who
    > wants to type all the time when they can just click?!
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION THREE - APPLICATIONS
    > ----------------------------
    >
    > 3.1 Q: Where can I get some programs to run on linux?
    > A: Good question. Because Linux doesn't have a large user base
    > on the desktop,(I think it's about 0.24%, less than 1%)
    > companies that make software won't write their programs for
    > Linux. There's a lot of community created programs out there,
    > and some are fairly good, but those are few and far between.
    > Most of the Linux software that tries to mimic it's windows
    > counterpart is substandard. It's usually slow and buggy and
    > early in development.
    >
    > 3.2 Q: I tried to install an RPM but I got 'failed dependencies', what
    > is that?
    > A: That's Linux's version of DLL hell. Different versions and
    > distros use different libraries. So unlike windows where
    > programs will run on many different versions, Linux programs
    > will fail if they're not made for your specific version.
    >
    > 3.3 Q: What is compiling and configure, make and make install? And
    > what is a makefile?
    > A: This is a way to build the programs from the source code
    > under Linux. When the question above fails, you can always
    > build it yourself. The advantage is that it works most of
    > the time. The disadvantage is that it takes forever to build
    > large programs, you need to know some cryptic commands and
    > you have to do all this on a command line. Unlike Windows
    > where you just double click and you are done.
    >
    > 3.4 Q: Can I go to my local store to buy any Linux applications?
    > A: Not really. You can buy Linux itself at various stores. But
    > not too many commercial companies make applications for Linux,
    > there's no profit in it with 0.24% of the desktop market.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION FOUR - SPEED ISSUES
    > ---------------------------
    >
    > 4.1 Q: Why is Linux so slow?
    > A: Linux is built on the technology of the old UNIX OS's. Even
    > the graphical user interface of Linux is a separate program
    > that
    > is the same type they used back in the older UNIX days. So
    > working with old technology will give you the old technology
    > responsiveness. Also, a lot of the GUI's, although nice to look
    > at, are still not mature. Using them is slow and sluggish
    > compared to, say, Windows.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION FIVE - CONSISTENCY
    > --------------------------
    >
    > 5.1 Q: Why are the windows different looking?
    > A: Since Linux isn't built by one company, group or have any
    > governing body, programs and interfaces can vary dramatically.
    > You can have everything from the nice look of KDE, to something
    > as ugly as TK and everything in between. You'll usually see
    > some
    > varying UI stile in Linux.
    >
    > 5.2 Q: Should I buy Suse Linux?
    > A: No. They make it difficult to get it for free. All the other
    > distros provide free ISO's to download. Suse is the only one
    > that doesn't provide them but instead has a FTP install that's
    > hard to get to work. Why should they make it easy? The more
    > people that can't get the download to work have to spend $80
    > or more for the boxed set. And on top of all that although
    > it might have a few more user friendly tools, it's still the
    > same base Linux system that's in development and that all the
    > other distros are using. In other words, they're all on about
    > the same level of struggling to catch up to Windows, so you're
    > not going to find any earth-shattering features in one compared
    > to another.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION SIX - LINUX COMMUNITY
    > -----------------------------
    >
    > 6.1 Q: What is RTFM?!
    > A: This is an acronym for Read The Fuc*ing Manual. This is a
    > common
    > answer you'll get when asking for help in the Linux community.
    > It's meant to make you feel inadequate while boating the Linux
    > persons ego at the same time. See, Linux enthusiasts consider
    > themselves to be guru like and above helping out the simple
    > newbie. You have to earn your respect by spending countless
    > hours becoming a kernel hacker before you're worthy of getting
    > any help.
    >
    > 6.2 Q: Why does everyone think they are better than you when using
    > Linux?
    > A: Same as above. When people use Linux they believe since it
    > takes
    > a little more knowledge to use Linux, they are technically
    > superior,
    > and see themselves as an elite group that doesn't have time for
    > the
    > pathetic little Windows people.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION SEVEN - LINUX ADVOCACY, HELPING OR HURTING?
    > ---------------------------------------------------
    >
    > 7.1 Q: Everyone in here says linux is perfect, why would they say that
    > if it isn't?
    > A: We really don't know. Maybe they've used Linux so long that
    > they've gotten used to it. Some of these people haven't used
    > Windows in years so they are comparing Linux to the last
    > windows
    > they used, maybe Windows 3.1 or 95.
    >
    > 7.2 Q: Why does everyone call you a troll when you ask something that
    > questions linux?
    > A: Most of the people here in C.O.L.A. think of Linux more like a
    > religion than an OS. They mostly are MS haters and feel that
    > Linux is the greatest thing to ever hit computing. So when
    > someone questions Linux it's like questioning their belief
    > system. Instead of looking at it with some logic and
    > reasonable
    > judgment, they will lash out at you can't claim your are a
    > troll
    > or a paid MS supporter.
    >
    > 7.3 Q: Why does everyone <PLONK> you if you question Linux?
    > A: Fairly similar to above, Linux advocates can not argue their
    > point rationally. So to make it look like you are under them
    > or
    > you are not worth it, and at the same time find an easy way out
    > of having to prove themselves, they will <PLONK> you.
    >
    > (more to come...)
    >
    > SECTION EIGHT - LINUX EVANGELISM, ZEALOTS
    > -----------------------------------------
    >
    > 8.1 Q: There are some people that call this FAQ lies and seem to treat
    > it
    > like it's a conspiracy against them, and post all sorts of
    > links
    > to
    > anti-microsoft articles. Why are they reacting so strongly?
    > A: The people
    > ...
    >
    > read more »



    How true.
    Too bad the monkeys over in comp.os.linux.advocacy will not be able to
    see themselves.
    This is truly an accurate description of comp.os.linux.advocacy.
    A bunch of losers, about 5 in fact not counting their various shill
    nyms (Roy Culley= Robert Parsonage for example) who pat each other on
    the back 85 times a day.

    The only interesting stuff in comp.os.linux.advocacy is reading about
    Roy Schestowitz's ongoing sex change saga.
    At least that's entertaining.
    , Sep 24, 2007
    #5
  6. Hadron Guest

    7 <> writes:

    > Micoshaft Corporation's Asstroturfer wrote on behalf of
    > Micoshaft Corporation:
    >
    > Pista lauch has FLOPPED.
    >
    > Vista / Pista who cares?
    >


    And some of you wonder why COLA is a laughing stock?
    Hadron, Sep 24, 2007
    #6
  7. dennis@home Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...

    snip anti linux stuff even if it is close to the truth.

    > Proof that Linux makes you brain damaged.
    > You fools can't even manage to locate a decent spell checker.
    >
    > Must be that Open Office garbage you are always claiming is as good as
    > MSOffice.
    >


    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    dennis@home, Sep 24, 2007
    #7
  8. cc Guest

    On Sep 24, 6:04 am, "dennis@home" <-ass.net>
    wrote:
    > <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:...
    >
    > snip anti linux stuff even if it is close to the truth.



    You snipped the anti-vista faq, not the anti-linux faq. Although both
    are equally stupid.

    > > Proof that Linux makes you brain damaged.
    > > You fools can't even manage to locate a decent spell checker.

    >
    > > Must be that Open Office garbage you are always claiming is as good as
    > > MSOffice.

    >
    > WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    See above.
    cc, Sep 24, 2007
    #8
  9. dennis@home Guest

    "cc" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sep 24, 6:04 am, "dennis@home" <-ass.net>
    > wrote:
    >> <> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:...
    >>
    >> snip anti linux stuff even if it is close to the truth.

    >
    >
    > You snipped the anti-vista faq, not the anti-linux faq. Although both
    > are equally stupid.


    That was definatly anti linux.
    It /may/ have been intended to be anti vista but it was anti linux.
    dennis@home, Sep 24, 2007
    #9
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