Broadband provider?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Brendon, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    Price - prefer approx $30 month
    Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    this is fine for the end of the month.

    Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?

    Cheers
    Brendon
     
    Brendon, Mar 6, 2006
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  2. Brendon

    Jerry Guest

    Brendon wrote:
    > To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    > in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    > years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    > 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    > Price - prefer approx $30 month
    > Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    > Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    > this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    > Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    > between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >
    > Cheers
    > Brendon


    Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing
    since they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in nz.comp
    are Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right
    to do that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)
     
    Jerry, Mar 6, 2006
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  3. Brendon

    krazy Bob Guest

    "Brendon" <> wrote in message
    news:su1Pf.4366$...
    > To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    > in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    > years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    > 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    > Price - prefer approx $30 month
    > Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    > Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    > after this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    > Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    > between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >
    > Cheers
    > Brendon

    You say you rather not go with telecom, but at the end of the day. Thats
    exactly what you are going to do if you join through another isp. Telecom
    sell broadband on to other isp's so your not skipping them at all, and from
    my experiences every one who is going through a different isp is in one way
    or another getting stuffed around.

    KB
     
    krazy Bob, Mar 6, 2006
    #3
  4. In article <su1Pf.4366$>,
    "Brendon" <> wrote:

    > 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    > Price - prefer approx $30 month
    > Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    > Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    > this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    > Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    > between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?


    I'm more than happy with iHug. $40/mth (with Tolls) 2GB cap on 2Mbps
    down 128kbps up (imposed by Telecom). There's a contract if you don't
    take their 'free' router.

    Their tolls are reasonably priced and you get 10 free email addresses
    (the 'Xtra' of Telecom Broadband is for the extras you have to pay for,
    like additional addresses)

    --
    Dibley
     
    Dibley Fanshaw, Mar 6, 2006
    #4
  5. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    Thanks Jerry - yeh, I have been hearing a bit of bad press about Orcon.
    Enough said.
    won't worry about Actrix either. Toying between Slingshot and ihug I think.
    Have been no hassles for the past 7 years on dialup with ihug, so may be
    time to upgrade.

    Cheers
    Brendon

    "Jerry" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Brendon wrote:
    >> To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going
    >> on in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for
    >> 2 years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >> 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    >> after this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>
    >> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >> between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> Brendon

    >
    > Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing since
    > they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in nz.comp are
    > Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right to do
    > that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)
     
    Brendon, Mar 6, 2006
    #5
  6. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    KB - yes, we all have to go through Telecom one way or another - but rather
    someone else gets a cut than them get it all. 'Bout time the govt sorted
    them out.

    Cheers
    Brendon

    "krazy Bob" <> wrote in message
    news:kB1Pf.4367$...
    >
    > "Brendon" <> wrote in message
    > news:su1Pf.4366$...
    >> To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going
    >> on in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for
    >> 2 years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >> 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    >> after this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>
    >> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >> between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> Brendon

    > You say you rather not go with telecom, but at the end of the day. Thats
    > exactly what you are going to do if you join through another isp. Telecom
    > sell broadband on to other isp's so your not skipping them at all, and
    > from my experiences every one who is going through a different isp is in
    > one way or another getting stuffed around.
    >
    > KB
    >
     
    Brendon, Mar 6, 2006
    #6
  7. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    Thanks Dibly, no real need for more than one email, so no points there, but
    yes, am leaning towards ihug. Wasn;t aware of the 'router' issues..thanks
    for the heads up.

    Cheers
    Brendon

    "Dibley Fanshaw" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <su1Pf.4366$>,
    > "Brendon" <> wrote:
    >
    >> 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    >> after
    >> this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>
    >> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >> between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?

    >
    > I'm more than happy with iHug. $40/mth (with Tolls) 2GB cap on 2Mbps
    > down 128kbps up (imposed by Telecom). There's a contract if you don't
    > take their 'free' router.
    >
    > Their tolls are reasonably priced and you get 10 free email addresses
    > (the 'Xtra' of Telecom Broadband is for the extras you have to pay for,
    > like additional addresses)
    >
    > --
    > Dibley
     
    Brendon, Mar 6, 2006
    #7
  8. Brendon

    krazy Bob Guest

    "Brendon" <> wrote in message
    news:NY1Pf.4374$...
    > KB - yes, we all have to go through Telecom one way or another - but
    > rather someone else gets a cut than them get it all. 'Bout time the govt
    > sorted them out.


    That be true...but for you to stop them getting 100% of the cut, your
    putting your service 2nd and a search on these forums for other isp and
    broadband problems shows that the service with other isp isn't as good as
    what you get with xtra.

    p.s im not supporting xtra / telecom in anyway. i *hate* with what they are
    doing, but im a realist who doesn't want to put up with any of the crap by
    joining another isp.

    KB
     
    krazy Bob, Mar 6, 2006
    #8
  9. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    "krazy Bob" <> wrote in message
    news:Vc2Pf.4379$...
    > That be true...but for you to stop them getting 100% of the cut, your
    > putting your service 2nd and a search on these forums for other isp and
    > broadband problems shows that the service with other isp isn't as good as
    > what you get with xtra.
    > KB
    >


    Yes, agreed, but a look on all forums, telecoms included reveal a lot of
    unhappy customers. I like ihug, but have in the past been a bit disappointed
    with them. Also, a closer look reveals a contract for 18months with them -
    something I am not keen on. And, if/when shifting home, a reconnection fee
    of $100. Cripes - no end of ways for them* to make money is there?

    Brendon
    *them - refers to all ISPs....
     
    Brendon, Mar 6, 2006
    #9
  10. Brendon

    joe_90 Guest

    Jerry wrote:
    > Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right to do that.


    as did/do Paradise.net, hence ...

    > Slngshot gave me free bread :)


    .... signed up with SS a month ago to their entry level BB package (free
    bread) and apart from a slight hiccup with the first invoice, I am happy.

    256/128 3GB cap $39.99 without tolls.
     
    joe_90, Mar 6, 2006
    #10
  11. "Brendon" <> wrote in message
    news:su1Pf.4366$...
    > To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    > in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    > years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    > 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    > Price - prefer approx $30 month
    > Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    > Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    > after this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    > Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    > between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >
    > Cheers
    > Brendon
    >


    If you don't go with telecom, then, your only option is woosh, dialup, or
    the telstra clear cable network in tiny parts of the country.

    All the ADSL providers, are basically telecom services.
     
    news.xtra.co.nz, Mar 6, 2006
    #11
  12. Brendon

    Philip Guest

    Brendon wrote:
    > Thanks Jerry - yeh, I have been hearing a bit of bad press about Orcon.
    > Enough said.
    > won't worry about Actrix either. Toying between Slingshot and ihug I think.
    > Have been no hassles for the past 7 years on dialup with ihug, so may be
    > time to upgrade.
    >

    Sop far I haven't found better deals than the ones offered by Orcon -
    but that's conditioned by my refusal to sign up to anything that tries
    to cut the speed of downloads if I overtake a download cap - in itself
    an objectionable and outdated practice.

    I have used Orcon's no-cap 256 service for some time and it does what it
    says it will do, is always predictable and essentially works for me,
    despite the limiting effect of the Telecom-imposed 128 kBit upload speed.

    At another location we have Orcon's 2 MBit service in the deal that I
    pay in 10GB download lumps. Under the cripplingly restrictive deals
    imposed by Telecom on other suppliers, this seems to be the best around.

    Orcon has so far never spammed me, nor do they get the billing wrong,
    nor have they done anything to annoy me beyond taking longer than I wish
    to answer the helpline.

    Philip
     
    Philip, Mar 6, 2006
    #12
  13. In article <>, Jerry <> wrote:
    >Brendon wrote:
    >> To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    >> in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    >> years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >> 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    >> this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>
    >> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >> between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?


    >Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing
    >since they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in nz.comp
    >are Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right
    >to do that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)


    Interesting. Actrix have never spammed. me and have an option (admitedly opt
    out) not to get their advertising/newsletter. I get little spam through them
    too (maybe 1 a week).



    Bruce

    ----------------------------------------
    I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good
    people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and
    only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.

    Lord Vetinari in Guards ! Guards ! - Terry Pratchett

    Caution ===== followups may have been changed to relevant groups
    (if there were any)
     
    Bruce Sinclair, Mar 7, 2006
    #13
  14. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    Thanks Bruce, food for thought.

    Cheers
    Brendon

    "Bruce Sinclair" <> wrote
    in message news:ll3Pf.4403$...
    > In article <>, Jerry
    > <> wrote:
    >>Brendon wrote:
    >>> To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going
    >>> on
    >>> in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    >>> years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >>> 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >>> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >>> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >>> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed
    >>> after
    >>> this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >>> between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?

    >
    >>Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing
    >>since they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in nz.comp
    >>are Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right
    >>to do that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)

    >
    > Interesting. Actrix have never spammed. me and have an option (admitedly
    > opt
    > out) not to get their advertising/newsletter. I get little spam through
    > them
    > too (maybe 1 a week).
    >
    >
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    > ----------------------------------------
    > I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the
    > good
    > people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and
    > only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
    >
    > Lord Vetinari in Guards ! Guards ! - Terry Pratchett
    >
    > Caution ===== followups may have been changed to relevant groups
    > (if there were any)
    >
     
    Brendon, Mar 7, 2006
    #14
  15. Brendon

    Brendon Guest

    Thanks Philip - interesting comments.

    Cheers
    Brendon

    "Philip" <> wrote in message
    news:440ccc15$...
    > Brendon wrote:
    >> Thanks Jerry - yeh, I have been hearing a bit of bad press about Orcon.
    >> Enough said.
    >> won't worry about Actrix either. Toying between Slingshot and ihug I
    >> think. Have been no hassles for the past 7 years on dialup with ihug, so
    >> may be time to upgrade.
    >>

    > Sop far I haven't found better deals than the ones offered by Orcon - but
    > that's conditioned by my refusal to sign up to anything that tries to cut
    > the speed of downloads if I overtake a download cap - in itself an
    > objectionable and outdated practice.
    >
    > I have used Orcon's no-cap 256 service for some time and it does what it
    > says it will do, is always predictable and essentially works for me,
    > despite the limiting effect of the Telecom-imposed 128 kBit upload speed.
    >
    > At another location we have Orcon's 2 MBit service in the deal that I pay
    > in 10GB download lumps. Under the cripplingly restrictive deals imposed
    > by Telecom on other suppliers, this seems to be the best around.
    >
    > Orcon has so far never spammed me, nor do they get the billing wrong, nor
    > have they done anything to annoy me beyond taking longer than I wish to
    > answer the helpline.
    >
    > Philip
     
    Brendon, Mar 7, 2006
    #15
  16. Brendon

    Jerry Guest

    Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    > In article <>, Jerry <> wrote:
    >
    >>Brendon wrote:
    >>
    >>>To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    >>>in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    >>>years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >>>12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >>>Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >>>Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >>>Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    >>>this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>>
    >>>Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >>>between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?

    >
    >
    >>Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing
    >>since they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in nz.comp
    >>are Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they have a right
    >>to do that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)

    >
    >
    > Interesting. Actrix have never spammed. me and have an option (admitedly opt
    > out) not to get their advertising/newsletter. I get little spam through them
    > too (maybe 1 a week).
    >

    Actrix didn't spam me, but one of their customers did. Actricx refused
    to do anyuthing about it, they said something like if it wasn't Viagra
    spam it wasn't spam. It was a group that wanted to convert downtown
    Wellington into a race track, and according to Actrix, it's OK for them
    to spam.
     
    Jerry, Mar 7, 2006
    #16
  17. Brendon

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    > In article <>, Jerry
    > <> wrote:
    >> Brendon wrote:
    >>> To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats
    >>> going on in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the
    >>> country for 2 years). - Who is the best provider for my situation
    >>> as per below: 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >>> Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >>> Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >>> Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup
    >>> speed after this is fine for the end of the month.
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't
    >>> decide between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?

    >
    >> Ihug used to really suck, but I don't know how they have been doing
    >> since they were taken over. A good percentage of the threads in
    >> nz.comp are Orcon moans. Actrix spammed me, and they believe they
    >> have a right to do that. Slngshot gave me free bread :)

    >
    > Interesting. Actrix have never spammed. me and have an option
    > (admitedly opt
    > out) not to get their advertising/newsletter. I get little spam
    > through them
    > too (maybe 1 a week).


    I have the same experience with Actrix. I've never been spammed by them, one
    'newsletter' a month, with an opt-out option if wanted.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 7, 2006
    #17
  18. Brendon

    Tony Guest

    Try WorldXchange, at least their news server is well looked after.
    http://www.xnet.co.nz/content/internet_hsi_products.shtml




    Brendon wrote:
    > To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    > in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    > years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    > 12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    > Price - prefer approx $30 month
    > Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    > Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    > this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    > Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    > between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?
    >
    > Cheers
    > Brendon
    >
    >
     
    Tony, Mar 7, 2006
    #18
  19. Brendon

    Nova Guest

    Philip wrote:
    > Brendon wrote:
    >> Thanks Jerry - yeh, I have been hearing a bit of bad press about
    >> Orcon. Enough said.
    >> won't worry about Actrix either. Toying between Slingshot and ihug I
    >> think. Have been no hassles for the past 7 years on dialup with ihug,
    >> so may be time to upgrade.
    >>

    > Sop far I haven't found better deals than the ones offered by Orcon -
    > but that's conditioned by my refusal to sign up to anything that tries
    > to cut the speed of downloads if I overtake a download cap - in itself
    > an objectionable and outdated practice.
    >
    > I have used Orcon's no-cap 256 service for some time and it does what it
    > says it will do, is always predictable and essentially works for me,
    > despite the limiting effect of the Telecom-imposed 128 kBit upload speed.
    >
    > At another location we have Orcon's 2 MBit service in the deal that I
    > pay in 10GB download lumps. Under the cripplingly restrictive deals
    > imposed by Telecom on other suppliers, this seems to be the best around.
    >
    > Orcon has so far never spammed me, nor do they get the billing wrong,
    > nor have they done anything to annoy me beyond taking longer than I wish
    > to answer the helpline.
    >
    > Philip


    I would second the comments about the uncapped 256kbit service from
    Orcon. I have never had a problem with their service or with getting a
    good speed.
     
    Nova, Mar 7, 2006
    #19
  20. Brendon

    Adam Guest

    On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:05:27 +1300, Brendon wrote:

    >To all who are a bit more knowledgeable on the pros/cons of whats going on
    >in NZ at the moment (I have just returned from out of the country for 2
    >years). - Who is the best provider for my situation as per below:
    >12 month contract - would prefer not to have this
    >Price - prefer approx $30 month
    >Speed - happy with 256, prefer 512 or 1-2mg if possible
    >Data - max I will use will be 1-2GB month, restricting to dialup speed after
    >this is fine for the end of the month.
    >
    >Any ideas people? I would rather NOT go with telecom, but can't decide
    >between ihug, orcon, or sliungshot. Any tips?


    No-one's mentioned Maxnet yet. I've been with them for over four years
    now. Go to their web page to compare prices:

    http://www.maxnet.co.nz/content/2/225/0.htm

    MaxSurf 256k 1Gb $39.95
    MaxSurf 1M 1Gb $44.95
    MaxSurf 2M 10Gb $64.95

    Though they've grown a fair bit, they're still very efficient - and
    have human beings on their Helpdesk - not droids. I really can't fault
    their service.

    Connections are as good or bad as Telecom allows. My old Jetstream
    account (with Maxnet) was rock solid, but this new "Broadband" thing
    that replaced it has been going up and down like a whore's drawers.
    Like most ISPs, they're forced to do the inevitable traffic shaping
    but it's not too bad.

    Maxnet's news server is pretty good now too. Not brilliant on the
    binaries, but then no-one in NZ really imports those anyway.

    Adam.
     
    Adam, Mar 7, 2006
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