Blu-ray vs HD-DVD

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    Super Mario Guest

    Super Mario, Jun 22, 2007
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    Jonah Falcon Guest

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    Jonah Falcon, Jun 22, 2007
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    On Jun 22, 10:37 pm, Super Mario <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
    Header@[127.1]> wrote:
    > Best analysis yet:
    > The Economisthttp://snipr.com/1ngfd


    So which format does the Wii play then? Oh, shit, I forgot, its not
    even HD.
     
    , Jun 23, 2007
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  4. I see now Dell is offering a Blue ray for their equipment.
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    "Super Mario" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
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    > Best analysis yet:
    > The Economist http://snipr.com/1ngfd
    >
     
    David B. Mathews, Jun 28, 2007
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  5. Super Mario

    skip Guest

    "David B. Mathews" <> wrote in news:n8GdnaU1Vt-
    :

    > http://snipr.com/1ngfd


    I use both Blu Ray and hd dvd on my 52 inch JVC.I will admit the picture is
    better than a normal DVD it is nothing to write home about.
     
    skip, Jun 28, 2007
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  6. Super Mario

    ninphan Guest

    On Jun 28, 10:51 am, skip <skip[@nospam.com> wrote:
    > "David B. Mathews" <> wrote in news:n8GdnaU1Vt-
    > :
    >
    > >http://snipr.com/1ngfd

    >
    > I use both Blu Ray and hd dvd on my 52 inch JVC.I will admit the picture is
    > better than a normal DVD it is nothing to write home about.


    I've written home about it several times.
    Pirates of the Caribbean, Enter the Dragon, Donnie Brasco, Identity,
    MI:3, Enemy of the State, Deja Vu, Open Season, The Prestige, Nine
    Inch Nails - Beside you in Time, Planet Earth, World Trade Centre,
    Casino Royale, Apocalypto, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down - all
    absolutely stunning and several times better than anything I've seen
    on DVD whether upconverted or not.
    Also the sound, particularly on Buena Vista's 24-bit PCM titles,
    rounds circles around the lossy 448 Kbps Dolby Digital tracks found on
    most DVD's.
     
    ninphan, Jun 28, 2007
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  7. Super Mario

    SINNER Guest

    * wrote in alt.games.video.xbox:

    > On Jun 22, 10:37 pm, Super Mario <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
    > Header@[127.1]> wrote:
    >> Best analysis yet:
    >> The Economisthttp://snipr.com/1ngfd

    >
    > So which format does the Wii play then? Oh, shit, I forgot, its not
    > even HD.
    >


    As Trolls go, you are about a 2 out of 10, back to school...

    What format does the Xbox360 play? Oh, I forgot, it dosent play ANY without
    a $200 add on.

    --
    David
     
    SINNER, Jun 28, 2007
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  8. Is there a cheap place to buy blue-ray movies if there is such a thing?
    =======================
    "ninphan" <> wrote in message
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    > On Jun 28, 10:51 am, skip <skip[@nospam.com> wrote:
    >> "David B. Mathews" <> wrote in news:n8GdnaU1Vt-
    >> :
    >>
    >> >http://snipr.com/1ngfd

    >>
    >> I use both Blu Ray and hd dvd on my 52 inch JVC.I will admit the picture
    >> is
    >> better than a normal DVD it is nothing to write home about.

    >
    > I've written home about it several times.
    > Pirates of the Caribbean, Enter the Dragon, Donnie Brasco, Identity,
    > MI:3, Enemy of the State, Deja Vu, Open Season, The Prestige, Nine
    > Inch Nails - Beside you in Time, Planet Earth, World Trade Centre,
    > Casino Royale, Apocalypto, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down - all
    > absolutely stunning and several times better than anything I've seen
    > on DVD whether upconverted or not.
    > Also the sound, particularly on Buena Vista's 24-bit PCM titles,
    > rounds circles around the lossy 448 Kbps Dolby Digital tracks found on
    > most DVD's.
    >
     
    David B. Mathews, Jun 29, 2007
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  9. David B. Mathews wrote:

    > Is there a cheap place to buy blue-ray movies if there is such a thing?


    Wherever you buy your DVD's cheapest--
    Best Buy has them on the shelf (haven't checked Target), DeepDiscount
    doesn't ignore them, and http://dvdpricesearch.com includes them on
    their lists.

    Derek Janssen
     
    Derek Janssen, Jun 29, 2007
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  10. In article <>,
    Derek Janssen <> wrote:

    > David B. Mathews wrote:
    >
    > > Is there a cheap place to buy blue-ray movies if there is such a thing?

    >
    > Wherever you buy your DVD's cheapest--
    > Best Buy has them on the shelf (haven't checked Target), DeepDiscount
    > doesn't ignore them, and http://dvdpricesearch.com includes them on
    > their lists.
    >
    > Derek Janssen
    >


    And there are also all kinds of sales going on to help.

    Starting 7/1/2007, if you buy a Blu Ray player, including the PS3, you
    can send off for 5 free Blu Ray movies. Check AVSforums for link and
    info.
     
    Lloyd Parsons, Jun 29, 2007
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  11. Super Mario

    Guest

    On Jun 28, 11:59 am, SINNER <> wrote:
    > * wrote in alt.games.video.xbox:
    > What format does the Xbox360 play? Oh, I forgot, it dosent play ANY without
    > a $200 add on.


    And what formats can a PS3 that sits unbought on a store shelf play?

    -Eric
     
    , Jun 29, 2007
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  12. Lloyd Parsons wrote:

    > And there are also all kinds of sales going on to help.
    >
    > Starting 7/1/2007, if you buy a Blu Ray player, including the PS3, you
    > can send off for 5 free Blu Ray movies. Check AVSforums for link and
    > info.


    Uh-hahhh, yes, but read the small print carefully:
    Five free Blu disks *if* you buy a hardware Blu player through Sept. 30,
    2007...
    And WHAT happens to hardware Blu players on Oct. 1, kiddies? 9_9

    (Always smell a rat when you see a "free corporate giveaway":
    I remember when Disney literally threw their old leftover Limited
    Edition disks at us for free when they put out the first Platinum
    Edition, so I know how to spot an obsolete-merchandise clearance sale
    when I see one.)

    Derek Janssen
     
    Derek Janssen, Jun 29, 2007
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  13. In article <>,
    Derek Janssen <> wrote:

    > Lloyd Parsons wrote:
    >
    > > And there are also all kinds of sales going on to help.
    > >
    > > Starting 7/1/2007, if you buy a Blu Ray player, including the PS3, you
    > > can send off for 5 free Blu Ray movies. Check AVSforums for link and
    > > info.

    >
    > Uh-hahhh, yes, but read the small print carefully:
    > Five free Blu disks *if* you buy a hardware Blu player through Sept. 30,
    > 2007...
    > And WHAT happens to hardware Blu players on Oct. 1, kiddies? 9_9
    >
    > (Always smell a rat when you see a "free corporate giveaway":
    > I remember when Disney literally threw their old leftover Limited
    > Edition disks at us for free when they put out the first Platinum
    > Edition, so I know how to spot an obsolete-merchandise clearance sale
    > when I see one.)
    >
    > Derek Janssen
    >


    You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

    On 10/31/2007 a new requirement will be in place. After that the new
    players will have to be able to do some things, like PIP, that they
    don't do now.

    BUT, the old players will still be able to play the movies, even the
    ones with the new added 'features'. So unless you just dig those PIPed
    running commentaries from the director about what he had for lunch and
    such, it just doesn't matter... ;-)
     
    Lloyd Parsons, Jun 29, 2007
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  14. Lloyd Parsons wrote:
    >>
    >>Uh-hahhh, yes, but read the small print carefully:
    >>Five free Blu disks *if* you buy a hardware Blu player through Sept. 30,
    >>2007...
    >>And WHAT happens to hardware Blu players on Oct. 1, kiddies? 9_9

    >
    > You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
    >
    > On 10/31/2007 a new requirement will be in place. After that the new
    > players will have to be able to do some things, like PIP, that they
    > don't do now.
    >
    > BUT, the old players will still be able to play the movies, even the
    > ones with the new added 'features'.


    Yeah, just that it'll still be that much more of a diceroll (NPI)
    whether your machine will be able to play Pirates 2 after the Firmware
    patch, just as it's that much of a $699 gamble now--

    Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    Standards requirement, and that that's why the existing patch-needed
    players haven't been moving off the shelves as of late.
    Fortunately, there *aren't* five Blu disks on the list yet that I'd own
    as keepers, so they'll need a better incentive than that to bribe me
    away from doing my tech-spec homework beforehand.

    > So unless you just dig those PIPed
    > running commentaries from the director about what he had for lunch and
    > such, it just doesn't matter... ;-)


    Need I remind you, as Digital Bits points out, that Warner has stated
    there is currently ONE reason why the now dual-format studio hasn't
    remastered many of its early PiP and extras-loaded HD's such as "Batman
    Begins" for Blu-Ray yet.

    And if the specific technical excuses for *not* being able to PiP what
    Christopher Nolan had for lunch is what is singlehandedly keeping
    "Begins" off of a respectable Blu player and keeping the HD war going, I
    SAY WE -FIX- 'EM, F***IN' PRONTO!!!!! @_@

    Derek Janssen (sometimes, it all comes down to simple reasons)
     
    Derek Janssen, Jun 29, 2007
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  15. In article <>,
    Derek Janssen <> wrote:

    > Lloyd Parsons wrote:
    > >>
    > >>Uh-hahhh, yes, but read the small print carefully:
    > >>Five free Blu disks *if* you buy a hardware Blu player through Sept. 30,
    > >>2007...
    > >>And WHAT happens to hardware Blu players on Oct. 1, kiddies? 9_9

    > >
    > > You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
    > >
    > > On 10/31/2007 a new requirement will be in place. After that the new
    > > players will have to be able to do some things, like PIP, that they
    > > don't do now.
    > >
    > > BUT, the old players will still be able to play the movies, even the
    > > ones with the new added 'features'.

    >
    > Yeah, just that it'll still be that much more of a diceroll (NPI)
    > whether your machine will be able to play Pirates 2 after the Firmware
    > patch, just as it's that much of a $699 gamble now--


    Actually it is a $499 gamble to be technically correct... ;-)

    But both POTCs play just fine on all the players out now. With the
    exception of the PS3, they all load it very slowly though. Gives you
    enough time to get a beer that way!

    >
    > Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    > Standards requirement, and that that's why the existing patch-needed
    > players haven't been moving off the shelves as of late.
    > Fortunately, there *aren't* five Blu disks on the list yet that I'd own
    > as keepers, so they'll need a better incentive than that to bribe me
    > away from doing my tech-spec homework beforehand.
    >

    I don't buy many disks, usually rent them.

    > > So unless you just dig those PIPed
    > > running commentaries from the director about what he had for lunch and
    > > such, it just doesn't matter... ;-)

    >
    > Need I remind you, as Digital Bits points out, that Warner has stated
    > there is currently ONE reason why the now dual-format studio hasn't
    > remastered many of its early PiP and extras-loaded HD's such as "Batman
    > Begins" for Blu-Ray yet.
    >
    > And if the specific technical excuses for *not* being able to PiP what
    > Christopher Nolan had for lunch is what is singlehandedly keeping
    > "Begins" off of a respectable Blu player and keeping the HD war going, I
    > SAY WE -FIX- 'EM, F***IN' PRONTO!!!!! @_@
    >
    > Derek Janssen (sometimes, it all comes down to simple reasons)
    >


    Warner can talk all they want, what really is holding some of the
    studios off is the new BD+ that they just all swear will be unbreakable.
    I agree with them, it will be unbreakable for about a month.

    MOST of us want to watch the damn movie and don't even care about all
    the extraneous BS they put on those multi-disk sets of SDs or on the Hi
    Def disks. But the studios seemed humped up over it, well that and
    being able to do those 'cute' ever slower menus they keep coming up with.

    Hi Def disks are still very much niche and will remain that way until
    pricing comes WAY down from the current prices, both hardware and movies.

    I have both Hi Defs and like both, but I can see why others might not
    want them yet.
     
    Lloyd Parsons, Jun 29, 2007
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  16. Super Mario

    Mattinglyfan Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Jun 28, 11:59 am, SINNER <> wrote:
    >> * wrote in alt.games.video.xbox:
    >> What format does the Xbox360 play? Oh, I forgot, it dosent play ANY
    >> without
    >> a $200 add on.

    >
    > And what formats can a PS3 that sits unbought on a store shelf play?
    >
    > -Eric
    >


    LOL, the same formats the RROD 360 or the one that has been sent away for
    repairs plays. This stupid trolling can go back and forth forever and will
    end up in the same place. Leave it alone.
     
    Mattinglyfan, Jun 30, 2007
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  17. On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:17:37 -0400, Derek Janssen
    <> wrote:

    >Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    >Standards requirement,


    Life would have been so much simpler if EVERYONE had just boycotted the
    Sony money sucking behemoth, and went with the better HD DVD standard.

    No hand sitting required then.
     
    Spurious Response, Jun 30, 2007
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  18. Spurious Response wrote:

    >
    >>Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    >>Standards requirement,

    >
    > Life would have been so much simpler if EVERYONE had just boycotted the
    > Sony money sucking behemoth, and went with the better HD DVD standard.
    >
    > No hand sitting required then.


    Woodacoodashooda...Thanks for acting like a greedy pig, not seeking out
    studios, and telling Toshiba to stonewall on the peace talks, Microsoft.
    -_-

    Derek Janssen
     
    Derek Janssen, Jun 30, 2007
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  19. Super Mario

    6forPizza Guest

    In <> Spurious Response <> writes:

    >On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:17:37 -0400, Derek Janssen
    ><> wrote:


    >>Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    >>Standards requirement,


    > Life would have been so much simpler if EVERYONE had just boycotted the
    >Sony money sucking behemoth, and went with the better HD DVD standard.


    > No hand sitting required then.


    There's nothing like marketing and hype to get the masses to buy into
    something. Please see the iPhone for the latest example.
     
    6forPizza, Jun 30, 2007
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  20. On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:47:56 -0700, Spurious Response
    <> wrote:

    >On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:17:37 -0400, Derek Janssen
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
    >>Standards requirement,

    >
    > Life would have been so much simpler if EVERYONE had just boycotted the
    >Sony money sucking behemoth, and went with the better HD DVD standard.
    >
    > No hand sitting required then.



    Seriously... think about it, folks. Why are humans so stupid?


    WHY does there have to be a winner and a loser with everything?

    Why can not both of these fine formats carry on as usual, and neither
    shoot the other down?

    I think both will survive.
     
    Spurious Response, Jun 30, 2007
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