Blair, Bush, Rumsfeld, Pinochet all cut from the same cloth?

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  1. Aardvark

    Aardvark Guest

    Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war criminals
    are.

    <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>



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    Buffalo Guest

    HEMI-Powered wrote:
    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the **** out of American politics. The main
    > thing that former Presidnt Bush did that was incredibly stupid was
    > align himself with your closet conservative wearing Labour clothes -
    > Tony Blair. Today's idiot, Gordon Brown, is cut from the same cloth
    > as my idiot, Barack Hussein Obama.

    [snip]

    Remember, it was the extremely poor job that the Republicans and their
    President did that got Obama elected.
    IOW, you are one of the reasons Obama got elected.
     
    Buffalo, Apr 5, 2009
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    catchme Guest

    HEMI-Powered wrote:
    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the **** out of American politics. The main
    > thing that former Presidnt Bush did that was incredibly stupid was
    > align himself with your closet conservative wearing Labour clothes -
    > Tony Blair. Today's idiot, Gordon Brown, is cut from the same cloth
    > as my idiot, Barack Hussein Obama.
    >
    > You might want to take not of two undisputed facts: Obama and Brown
    > are the ONLY members of the G-20 who think that the way out of the
    > economic malaise is to try to spend your way out, and you Limeys need
    > to UnFuck your own Socialist world before having the audacity to
    > meddle in the internal affairs of ours.
    >
    > The thing about you Socialists that none of you seem to understand is
    > that the very, very few intelligent, educated, hard working, and
    > productive people in your country subsidize the vast majority of you
    > stupid, ignorant, and lazy assholes with their tax dollars. So, don't
    > try to sell your Socialist agenda here unles it is to our Marxist
    > president.
    >

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2...nt-it-My-Ex-Nazi-Fathers-Reaction-to-Fox-News

    My father watched for about ten minutes, then he said, "What is this?"
    "Fox News," I answered.
    "This is some kind of joke, right?"
    "Uhm, no."
    "You mean this is an actual news show? Not satire?" My father obviously
    thought I was pulling his leg.
    "No, it's not satire. Why are you asking?" I said.
    "Because all you have to do is change a few adjectives, and it's Nazi talk."

    Wow. I had never thought about why "conservatives" had always made me
    cringe. But he definitely had a point. Now I am not saying that
    Republicans are Nazis, but they do employ totalitarian rhetoric, and
    sometimes... well, they do sound like Nazis. Here are some eerie parallels:
    - "homeland" and all the imagery connected to it (also prominently
    featured in patriotic songs) - Invocation of patriotism, of which there
    is supposedly never enough - Glorification of the military while
    regarding actual soldiers as disposable - Glorification of motherhood
    with ulterior motives (the Lebensborn movement got started with homes
    for unwed mothers to prevent abortions) - "We" are the good guys, not
    because of what we do (or don't do) but because we say so - "We" are
    superior at anything and everything, again because we say so -
    Discrimination against a particular minority is morally justified to
    preserve national security - Even though racism and gender discrimation
    are considered morally right, ideology supercedes racial, ethnic, or
    gender affiliation. Minority members are tolerated ("We decide who's a
    Jew") and women can have careers if they are useful to the party - A
    crime or injustice was committed against us, so we must punish somebody,
    whether they had anything to do with it or not - If we lose a war, it's
    the left-wing traitors' fault - Everybody else is out to get us, and we
    must get them first - Messed up grammar and nonsensical sentence
    structures interrupted by bumper sticker-style slogans. If you ever
    tried to read Mein Kampf in the original (I don't recommend it), you
    would be reminded of a Sarah Palin speech. - speaking of Sarah Palin
    rallies, need I say more...
     
    catchme, Apr 5, 2009
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  4. Aardvark

    catchme Guest

    Buffalo wrote:

    >
    > Remember, it was the extremely poor job that the Republicans and their
    > President did that got Obama elected.
    > IOW, you are one of the reasons Obama got elected.
    >
    >

    the FOX News, the banner waving, crowd-cheering, martial music blaring
    and constant droning about USA being the "land of the free" began to
    sound as sour notes from a rusty brass section, the cake long gone stale
    and the same platitudes just stopped working after a while.
    Whereas Hitler was able to confiscate radios so as to block messages
    other than his own, only in Burma (Myanmar) are they today able to
    entirely block out dissenting views.
     
    catchme, Apr 5, 2009
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  5. Aardvark

    Unbeliever Guest

    HEMI-Powered wrote:
    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the **** out of American politics. The main
    > thing that former Presidnt Bush did that was incredibly stupid was
    > align himself with your closet conservative wearing Labour clothes -
    > Tony Blair. Today's idiot, Gordon Brown, is cut from the same cloth
    > as my idiot, Barack Hussein Obama.


    It's "American politics" that brought the world to the mess it's in now -
    and particularly the politics of Dubya Bush and Donald Dumbsfeld. As for
    Blair, he was Dumbays poodle and jumped through hooops when told to!

    > You might want to take not of two undisputed facts: Obama and Brown
    > are the ONLY members of the G-20 who think that the way out of the
    > economic malaise is to try to spend your way out, and you Limeys need
    > to UnFuck your own Socialist world before having the audacity to
    > meddle in the internal affairs of ours.


    You Yankees need to "UnFuck" the bankers in your country that caused the
    problems by giving loans and mortgages to those that were unemployed in
    *YOUR* country and then sold those loans on to other banks until they became
    as toxic as Yankee bullshit!

    > The thing about you Socialists that none of you seem to understand is
    > that the very, very few intelligent, educated, hard working, and
    > productive people in your country subsidize the vast majority of you


    Now that is a statement from a typical Yankee "grunt" who knows nothing
    about the UK nor that of the Uk's Social Security and Healthcare system and
    where medical treatment is free at point of use.

    BTW the majority of those in the UK are "intelligent, educated, hard
    working, and productive people" who actually pay around 35% of their wages
    in tax and insurances to cover the unexpected - unlike your country where if
    the unexpected happens, then "god old Joe" is left to suffer if he couldn't
    afford private insurance or have the hard cash to pay for the unexpected.

    > stupid, ignorant, and lazy assholes with their tax dollars. So, don't
    > try to sell your Socialist agenda here unles it is to our Marxist
    > president.


    Ah, now you are clearly describing what your country thinks of its own
    population - and it's your "Marxist" *Democratic* President who will over
    the next four years, have to pull you Yankees out of the pig shit that eight
    years of Republican rule has spread all over Yankee-land and the rest of the
    world.

    And if that is "Marxism" then bring it on, and the sooner the better.
     
    Unbeliever, Apr 5, 2009
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  6. Aardvark

    VanguardLH Guest

    Aardvark wrote:

    > Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war criminals
    > are.
    >
    > <http:// www. johnpilger. com / page.asp?partid=528>


    Post this gargbage where it belongs: in a *.test or politics group.
     
    VanguardLH, Apr 5, 2009
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  7. HEMI-Powered wrote:
    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the Fu<SLAP>


    Nice boilerplate. If you're a bot your very convincing :)



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    §ñühw¤£f, Apr 6, 2009
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  8. Aardvark wrote:
    > Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war criminals
    > are.
    >
    > <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >

    Ok, I'll bite mate...you think Tony B-a-liar is in danger of prosecution?
    I doubt it. For the same reasons that BushCo remains free: economic
    crisis trumps human rights outrages.

    Discuss :)


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    §ñühw¤£f, Apr 6, 2009
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  9. Aardvark

    Aardvark Guest

    On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:28:35 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    > Aardvark wrote:
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http:// www. johnpilger. com / page.asp?partid=528>

    >
    > Post this gargbage


    Your opinion.

    > where it belongs: in a *.test or politics group.


    Your opinion.

    Who died and left you in charge of this newsgroup?

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    The month of March in this year of 2009 sees the centenary of the laying
    of the keel of the most famous (or infamous) ocean liner of all time, RMS
    Titanic, at Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast.
    < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic>
     
    Aardvark, Apr 6, 2009
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  10. Aardvark

    chuckcar Guest

    "HEMI-Powered" <> wrote in
    news:Xns9BE464F4475CEReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30:

    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the **** out of American politics.


    The rest of thew world will when the US keeps it's nose out of other
    people's business: Mexico, Puerto Rico, Vietnam, The USSR, Korea, Cuba,
    Panama, El Salvador. The list is endless. All just to fund the most skewed
    economic system in the world: everything coming from government military
    funding. Pathetic really.

    > The main
    > thing that former Presidnt Bush did that was incredibly stupid was
    > align himself with your closet conservative wearing Labour clothes -
    > Tony Blair. Today's idiot, Gordon Brown, is cut from the same cloth
    > as my idiot, Barack Hussein Obama.
    >

    Nonsence idiot. Brown is the same party as Blair. Blair was duped and lied
    to by scrub. That's the only reason he got support of the Brits.

    > You might want to take not of two undisputed facts:


    Once again in english? not of two??? And wipe the froth from your mouth
    while you're at it.


    > Obama and Brown
    > are the ONLY members of the G-20 who think that the way out of the
    > economic malaise is to try to spend your way out, and you Limeys need
    > to UnFuck your own Socialist world before having the audacity to
    > meddle in the internal affairs of ours.
    >

    Riight. Along with every other leader in the G20. You forgot about that I
    guess.

    > The thing about you Socialists that none of you seem to understand is
    > that the very, very few intelligent, educated, hard working, and
    > productive people in your country subsidize the vast majority of you
    > stupid, ignorant, and lazy assholes with their tax dollars. So, don't
    > try to sell your Socialist agenda here unles it is to our Marxist
    > president.
    >

    More complete gibbering nonsence from the local village idiot. No surprise
    there.


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    chuckcar, Apr 6, 2009
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  11. Aardvark

    Aardvark Guest

    On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:09:59 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:

    > Aardvark wrote:
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Ok, I'll bite mate...you think Tony B-a-liar is in danger of
    > prosecution?


    That'll be the day,mate, despite the fact that he, Bush and the rest
    deserve it. I just think Pilger's a good bloke and usually throws out
    some interesting ideas. His 'Cambodia: Year Zero' and 'Cambodia:Year One'
    were classic eye-opening documentaries. wellworth a look-see.


    > I doubt it. For the same reasons that BushCo remains free:
    > economic crisis trumps human rights outrages.
    >


    The world's priorities are all so topsy-turvy,eh?

    > Discuss :)


    Nah! Too fucking depressing.



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    of the keel of the most famous (or infamous) ocean liner of all time, RMS
    Titanic, at Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast.
    < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic>
     
    Aardvark, Apr 6, 2009
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  12. Aardvark

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <>
    wrote:

    >Nonsence idiot.


    There should be a comma after nonsence. Well, that and there should be
    a real word before idiot.

    >Once again in english?


    And English needs to be capitalized, idiot.
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    Evan Platt, Apr 6, 2009
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  13. Aardvark

    catchme Guest

    §ñühw¤£f wrote:
    > Aardvark wrote:
    >> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >> criminals are.
    >>
    >> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>

    > Ok, I'll bite mate...you think Tony B-a-liar is in danger of prosecution?
    > I doubt it. For the same reasons that BushCo remains free: economic
    > crisis trumps human rights outrages.
    >
    > Discuss :)
    >
    >

    fwiw, there are certain countries (i.e. Germany, Spain) which are in
    various stages of building cases for war crimes against Rumsfeld, Bush
    and Cheney.
    Here in Canada, there are activists groups eager to get their hands on
    either of them, to detain them and hold them account.
    Bush was in Alberta recently- unfortunately a safe province for him,
    what with all the big-oil interests and ultra- right grassroots members
    of the former Reform Party (now a major influence in the Conservative
    Party).
     
    catchme, Apr 6, 2009
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  14. Aardvark

    Guest

    HEMI-Powered wrote:
    > Aardvark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    > ...
    >
    > > Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    > > criminals are.
    > >
    > > <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    > >

    > Hey, Socialist Loon, stay the **** out of American politics.


    The US sure doesn't have a problem with meddling in others politics.
    Remember back when Bush destroyed Iraq
    and installed US ass kissers? Like Saddam the Republican ass kisser
    before that.

    > The main
    > thing that former Presidnt Bush did that was incredibly stupid was
    > align himself with your closet conservative wearing Labour clothes -
    > Tony Blair.


    What, did that tragic partnership make you fucks loose the Iraq war,
    that 'had' already been won by daddy Bush?

    No, so um, how many dead solders of Tony Blair would have to have died
    fighting for your Iraq fuckup for you
    people to appreciate Blair's partnership with your tragic idiot Bush?

    You know what, was incredibly stupid, for 'Blair' to align himself
    with the trash of the world leaders, Bush.

    > Today's idiot, Gordon Brown, is cut from the same cloth
    > as my idiot, Barack Hussein Obama.


    Your 'current' idiot is better than your other idiot that lost the
    last election with the help of that screeching scumbag bitch palin.

    > You might want to take not of two undisputed facts: Obama and Brown
    > are the ONLY members of the G-20 who think that the way out of the
    > economic malaise is to try to spend your way out, and you Limeys need
    > to UnFuck your own Socialist world before having the audacity to
    > meddle in the internal affairs of ours.


    Why don't you right wing trash unfuck your Iraqi child killing war
    debt?

    > The thing about you Socialists that none of you seem to understand is
    > that the very, very few intelligent, educated, hard working, and
    > productive people in your country subsidize the vast majority of you
    > stupid, ignorant, and lazy assholes with their tax dollars. So, don't
    > try to sell your Socialist agenda here unles it is to our Marxist
    > president.
    >


    Marxist socialist, bla bla bla. You right wing trash didn't keep your
    tragic leader Bush in line, you get what you get.

    Would think with the extreme arrogance of the right that something
    useful would eventually spill out once in a while.
     
    , Apr 6, 2009
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  15. Aardvark

    Buffalo Guest

    Evan Platt wrote:
    > On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Nonsence idiot.

    >
    > There should be a comma after nonsence. Well, that and there should be
    > a real word before idiot.
    >
    >> Once again in english?

    >
    > And English needs to be capitalized, idiot.


    Now,now Evan, I think Chuckcar did a great job overall.
     
    Buffalo, Apr 6, 2009
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  16. Aardvark

    thanatoid Guest

    "Buffalo" <> wrote in
    news:grctsr$h52$:

    > Evan Platt wrote:
    >> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Nonsence idiot.

    >>
    >> There should be a comma after nonsence. Well, that and
    >> there should be a real word before idiot.


    Not to mention it's "nonsense".

    And I think he meant "idiot with no sense".

    >>> Once again in english?

    >>
    >> And English needs to be capitalized, idiot.

    >
    > Now,now Evan, I think Chuckcar did a great job overall.


    Hate seems to grow like corn in this group.
     
    thanatoid, Apr 6, 2009
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  17. Aardvark wrote:
    > On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:09:59 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:
    >
    >> Aardvark wrote:
    >>> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >>> criminals are.
    >>>
    >>> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>>

    >> Ok, I'll bite mate...you think Tony B-a-liar is in danger of
    >> prosecution?

    >
    > That'll be the day,mate, despite the fact that he, Bush and the rest
    > deserve it. I just think Pilger's a good bloke and usually throws out
    > some interesting ideas. His 'Cambodia: Year Zero' and 'Cambodia:Year One'
    > were classic eye-opening documentaries. wellworth a look-see.
    >
    >

    Which the mainstream media wont follow. Its like many other stories that
    break in the small media outlets. McClatchy was right from the get-go
    about the dubious nature of the Iraq WMD's.



    >> I doubt it. For the same reasons that BushCo remains free:
    >> economic crisis trumps human rights outrages.
    >>

    >
    > The world's priorities are all so topsy-turvy,eh?
    >

    Making a living and keeping fed wins out.
    Go figure :)


    >> Discuss :)

    >
    > Nah! Too fucking depressing.
    >


    March in the G-20 protest then.

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    §ñühw¤£f, Apr 6, 2009
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  18. catchme wrote:
    > §ñühw¤£f wrote:
    >> Aardvark wrote:
    >>> Award-winning journalist John Pilger's take on who the real war
    >>> criminals are.
    >>>
    >>> <http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=528>
    >>>

    >> Ok, I'll bite mate...you think Tony B-a-liar is in danger of prosecution?
    >> I doubt it. For the same reasons that BushCo remains free: economic
    >> crisis trumps human rights outrages.
    >>
    >> Discuss :)
    >>
    >>

    > fwiw, there are certain countries (i.e. Germany, Spain) which are in
    > various stages of building cases for war crimes against Rumsfeld, Bush
    > and Cheney.


    Good luck to Spain. Prediction: if it becomes neccessary Obama will
    offer the Spanish an economic incentive to tone down the case.

    > Here in Canada, there are activists groups eager to get their hands on
    > either of them, to detain them and hold them account.


    Extradition? *To* canada? I dont think accountability will ever happen.
    Not because it lacks "the will of the people" because that exists. But
    because it lacks the clout of the people who maintain the Status Quo.


    > Bush was in Alberta recently- unfortunately a safe province for him,
    > what with all the big-oil interests and ultra- right grassroots members
    > of the former Reform Party (now a major influence in the Conservative
    > Party).
    >

    Albertas Tar Sands is an enviromental nightmare.
    :(


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    §ñühw¤£f, Apr 6, 2009
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  19. Aardvark

    Aardvark Guest

    On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:13:48 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:

    > March in the G-20 protest then.


    That was last week,mate. I was busy earning a living.

    :)



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    of the keel of the most famous (or infamous) ocean liner of all time, RMS
    Titanic, at Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast.
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    Aardvark, Apr 7, 2009
    #19
  20. Aardvark wrote:
    > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:13:48 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:
    >
    >> March in the G-20 protest then.

    >
    > That was last week,mate. I was busy earning a living.
    >
    > :)
    >

    Yer one 'o them!
    Bloody banksters...



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    §ñühw¤£f, Apr 7, 2009
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