BIOS Setup Help/advice needed please

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Dr Hackenbush, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem might
    lie with the Bios.
    Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master and the
    newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD in
    place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot device.
    It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the new
    drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot

    After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it says:

    Primary Master CD RW
    Primary Slave DVD Rom

    Secondary Master HDD
    Secondary Slave Auto

    The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows

    1 CD-RW
    2 IDE HDD
    3 Floppy

    I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install of a
    second HDD.

    I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    nowhere.

    Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this out
    please.

    TIA
    Dr Hackenbush, Feb 23, 2004
    #1
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  2. "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem

    might
    > lie with the Bios.
    > Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master and

    the
    > newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD in
    > place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot device.
    > It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the new
    > drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    >
    > After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it

    says:
    >
    > Primary Master CD RW
    > Primary Slave DVD Rom
    >
    > Secondary Master HDD
    > Secondary Slave Auto
    >
    > The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    >
    > 1 CD-RW
    > 2 IDE HDD
    > 3 Floppy
    >
    > I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install of

    a
    > second HDD.
    >
    > I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    > nowhere.
    >
    > Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this out
    > please.
    >
    > TIA
    >


    Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    Gaz
    Gareth not NLL or anybody else., Feb 23, 2004
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  3. "Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote in
    message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    >
    > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > > If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > > XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > > I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem

    > might
    > > lie with the Bios.
    > > Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master and

    > the
    > > newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD in
    > > place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot device.
    > > It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the new
    > > drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    > >
    > > After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it

    > says:
    > >
    > > Primary Master CD RW
    > > Primary Slave DVD Rom
    > >
    > > Secondary Master HDD
    > > Secondary Slave Auto
    > >
    > > The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    > >
    > > 1 CD-RW
    > > 2 IDE HDD
    > > 3 Floppy
    > >
    > > I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install

    of
    > a
    > > second HDD.
    > >
    > > I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    > > nowhere.
    > >
    > > Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this out
    > > please.
    > >
    > > TIA
    > >

    >
    > Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    > Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    > Gaz
    >

    Hi m8
    just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and goes
    straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable and i
    have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the cable,
    assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    Dr Hackenbush, Feb 23, 2004
    #3
  4. "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote in
    > message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > > > If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > > > XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > > > I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem

    > > might
    > > > lie with the Bios.
    > > > Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master

    and
    > > the
    > > > newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD

    in
    > > > place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot

    device.
    > > > It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the

    new
    > > > drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    > > >
    > > > After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it

    > > says:
    > > >
    > > > Primary Master CD RW
    > > > Primary Slave DVD Rom
    > > >
    > > > Secondary Master HDD
    > > > Secondary Slave Auto
    > > >
    > > > The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    > > >
    > > > 1 CD-RW
    > > > 2 IDE HDD
    > > > 3 Floppy
    > > >
    > > > I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install

    > of
    > > a
    > > > second HDD.
    > > >
    > > > I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    > > > nowhere.
    > > >
    > > > Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this

    out
    > > > please.
    > > >
    > > > TIA
    > > >

    > >
    > > Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    > > Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    > > Gaz
    > >

    > Hi m8
    > just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and goes
    > straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    > Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable and i
    > have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the cable,
    > assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    >

    Tried it anyway, getting desperate, it made no difference.
    Had a moment of inspiration, found an old 3 gig drive with some old files on
    it but no OS, set it to slave, powered up and machine detects and sees it as
    slave no problem.
    Starting to think that the new drive is no good. As soon as it is connected
    the boot sequence has a problem finding "Primary boot drive" and goes
    into"boot error non system disk, instert boot disk"
    What do you think any more suggestions to try ?
    Dr Hackenbush, Feb 23, 2004
    #4
  5. Dr Hackenbush

    TT Guest

    In the boot order sequence on that Bios screen, are there other HDD
    options, like HDD 0, HDD 1...? ASUS sometimes also has BIOS settings
    that specify whether SATA drives vs IDE drives are the primary channel...

    Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > news:v%k_b.18327$ft.15766@newsfe1-win...
    >
    >>"Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote in
    >>message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    >>
    >>>"Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    >>>
    >>>>If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    >>>>XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    >>>>I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem
    >>>
    >>>might
    >>>
    >>>>lie with the Bios.
    >>>>Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master

    >
    > and
    >
    >>>the
    >>>
    >>>>newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD

    >
    > in
    >
    >>>>place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot

    >
    > device.
    >
    >>>> It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the

    >
    > new
    >
    >>>>drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    >>>>
    >>>>After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it
    >>>
    >>>says:
    >>>
    >>>>Primary Master CD RW
    >>>>Primary Slave DVD Rom
    >>>>
    >>>>Secondary Master HDD
    >>>>Secondary Slave Auto
    >>>>
    >>>>The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    >>>>
    >>>>1 CD-RW
    >>>>2 IDE HDD
    >>>>3 Floppy
    >>>>
    >>>>I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install

    >>
    >>of
    >>
    >>>a
    >>>
    >>>>second HDD.
    >>>>
    >>>>I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    >>>>nowhere.
    >>>>
    >>>>Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this

    >
    > out
    >
    >>>>please.
    >>>>
    >>>>TIA
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    >>>Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    >>>Gaz
    >>>

    >>
    >>Hi m8
    >>just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and goes
    >>straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    >>Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable and i
    >>have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the cable,
    >>assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    >>

    >
    > Tried it anyway, getting desperate, it made no difference.
    > Had a moment of inspiration, found an old 3 gig drive with some old files on
    > it but no OS, set it to slave, powered up and machine detects and sees it as
    > slave no problem.
    > Starting to think that the new drive is no good. As soon as it is connected
    > the boot sequence has a problem finding "Primary boot drive" and goes
    > into"boot error non system disk, instert boot disk"
    > What do you think any more suggestions to try ?
    >
    >
    TT, Feb 23, 2004
    #5
  6. You got me there ! I'll have a look but I dont recall seeing anything like
    that
    Thanks

    "TT" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In the boot order sequence on that Bios screen, are there other HDD
    > options, like HDD 0, HDD 1...? ASUS sometimes also has BIOS settings
    > that specify whether SATA drives vs IDE drives are the primary channel...
    >
    > Dr Hackenbush wrote:
    >
    > > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > news:v%k_b.18327$ft.15766@newsfe1-win...
    > >
    > >>"Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote in
    > >>message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    > >>
    > >>>"Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > >>>news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > >>>
    > >>>>If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > >>>>XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > >>>>I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the problem
    > >>>
    > >>>might
    > >>>
    > >>>>lie with the Bios.
    > >>>>Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master

    > >
    > > and
    > >
    > >>>the
    > >>>
    > >>>>newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD

    > >
    > > in
    > >
    > >>>>place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot

    > >
    > > device.
    > >
    > >>>> It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the

    > >
    > > new
    > >
    > >>>>drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    > >>>>
    > >>>>After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what it
    > >>>
    > >>>says:
    > >>>
    > >>>>Primary Master CD RW
    > >>>>Primary Slave DVD Rom
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Secondary Master HDD
    > >>>>Secondary Slave Auto
    > >>>>
    > >>>>The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    > >>>>
    > >>>>1 CD-RW
    > >>>>2 IDE HDD
    > >>>>3 Floppy
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this install
    > >>
    > >>of
    > >>
    > >>>a
    > >>>
    > >>>>second HDD.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    > >>>>nowhere.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this

    > >
    > > out
    > >
    > >>>>please.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>TIA
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>>Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    > >>>Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    > >>>Gaz
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>Hi m8
    > >>just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and goes
    > >>straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    > >>Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable and

    i
    > >>have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the cable,
    > >>assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    > >>

    > >
    > > Tried it anyway, getting desperate, it made no difference.
    > > Had a moment of inspiration, found an old 3 gig drive with some old

    files on
    > > it but no OS, set it to slave, powered up and machine detects and sees

    it as
    > > slave no problem.
    > > Starting to think that the new drive is no good. As soon as it is

    connected
    > > the boot sequence has a problem finding "Primary boot drive" and goes
    > > into"boot error non system disk, instert boot disk"
    > > What do you think any more suggestions to try ?
    > >
    > >

    >
    Dr Hackenbush, Feb 23, 2004
    #6
  7. I know the feeling....have just gone through similar problems. suggest the
    following - Possible problem is mix of Ultra ATA drive and older

    1 - have a coffee and calm your nerves!
    2 - earlier reply suggested putting HD on primary IDE, better speed if
    nothing else!
    3 - ignore CD's for now and concentrate on HD. Put new HD set as master on
    IDE connector that is furthest from MB....no other HD at this stage, test
    see if it works and boots OK, if OK, connect 2nd HD, checking jumper set for
    slave. If PC fails to boot , suggest it is the problem of mixes.






    "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    news:_fl_b.18334$ft.8521@newsfe1-win...
    > You got me there ! I'll have a look but I dont recall seeing anything like
    > that
    > Thanks
    >
    > "TT" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > In the boot order sequence on that Bios screen, are there other HDD
    > > options, like HDD 0, HDD 1...? ASUS sometimes also has BIOS settings
    > > that specify whether SATA drives vs IDE drives are the primary

    channel...
    > >
    > > Dr Hackenbush wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:v%k_b.18327$ft.15766@newsfe1-win...
    > > >
    > > >>"Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote in
    > > >>message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    > > >>
    > > >>>"Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > >>>news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > > >>>>XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > > >>>>I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the

    problem
    > > >>>
    > > >>>might
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>lie with the Bios.
    > > >>>>Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to master
    > > >
    > > > and
    > > >
    > > >>>the
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second HDD
    > > >
    > > > in
    > > >
    > > >>>>place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot
    > > >
    > > > device.
    > > >
    > > >>>> It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing the
    > > >
    > > > new
    > > >
    > > >>>>drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what

    it
    > > >>>
    > > >>>says:
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>Primary Master CD RW
    > > >>>>Primary Slave DVD Rom
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Secondary Master HDD
    > > >>>>Secondary Slave Auto
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>1 CD-RW
    > > >>>>2 IDE HDD
    > > >>>>3 Floppy
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this

    install
    > > >>
    > > >>of
    > > >>
    > > >>>a
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>second HDD.
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am getting
    > > >>>>nowhere.
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort this
    > > >
    > > > out
    > > >
    > > >>>>please.
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>TIA
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    > > >>>Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    > > >>>Gaz
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >>Hi m8
    > > >>just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and

    goes
    > > >>straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    > > >>Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable

    and
    > i
    > > >>have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the

    cable,
    > > >>assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > Tried it anyway, getting desperate, it made no difference.
    > > > Had a moment of inspiration, found an old 3 gig drive with some old

    > files on
    > > > it but no OS, set it to slave, powered up and machine detects and sees

    > it as
    > > > slave no problem.
    > > > Starting to think that the new drive is no good. As soon as it is

    > connected
    > > > the boot sequence has a problem finding "Primary boot drive" and goes
    > > > into"boot error non system disk, instert boot disk"
    > > > What do you think any more suggestions to try ?
    > > >
    > > >

    > >

    >
    >
    Greyhairedoldgit, Feb 23, 2004
    #7
  8. Well, I tried all that youve suggested but still nowt, so i think its just
    incompatible.
    Even so the info supplied was useful for future problems that may or may not
    happen !
    Thanks for your help peeps

    "Greyhairedoldgit" <terry.mitchell1@removemefromntlworlddotcom> wrote in
    message news:RPo_b.79$bJ1.66@newsfe1-win...
    > I know the feeling....have just gone through similar problems. suggest the
    > following - Possible problem is mix of Ultra ATA drive and older
    >
    > 1 - have a coffee and calm your nerves!
    > 2 - earlier reply suggested putting HD on primary IDE, better speed if
    > nothing else!
    > 3 - ignore CD's for now and concentrate on HD. Put new HD set as master on
    > IDE connector that is furthest from MB....no other HD at this stage, test
    > see if it works and boots OK, if OK, connect 2nd HD, checking jumper set

    for
    > slave. If PC fails to boot , suggest it is the problem of mixes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > news:_fl_b.18334$ft.8521@newsfe1-win...
    > > You got me there ! I'll have a look but I dont recall seeing anything

    like
    > > that
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > > "TT" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > In the boot order sequence on that Bios screen, are there other HDD
    > > > options, like HDD 0, HDD 1...? ASUS sometimes also has BIOS settings
    > > > that specify whether SATA drives vs IDE drives are the primary

    > channel...
    > > >
    > > > Dr Hackenbush wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > "Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > > > news:v%k_b.18327$ft.15766@newsfe1-win...
    > > > >
    > > > >>"Gareth not NLL or anybody else." <> wrote

    in
    > > > >>message news:c1cgbp$1ftirm$-berlin.de...
    > > > >>
    > > > >>>"Dr Hackenbush" <> wrote in message
    > > > >>>news:pmj_b.37$bJ1.21@newsfe1-win...
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>>If you can help with this it will be greatly appreciated.
    > > > >>>>XP Home, ASUS A7S333 M/Board,. Athlon 1800XP
    > > > >>>>I am having a problem installing a second HDD and i think the

    > problem
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>might
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>>lie with the Bios.
    > > > >>>>Even though i have checked the jumpers, current HDD is set to

    master
    > > > >
    > > > > and
    > > > >
    > > > >>>the
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>>newer one to slave, as soon as i try to boot with the new second

    HDD
    > > > >
    > > > > in
    > > > >
    > > > >>>>place during power up i get a message saying it cant find boot
    > > > >
    > > > > device.
    > > > >
    > > > >>>> It seems as if it is ignoring the installed HDD and only seeing

    the
    > > > >
    > > > > new
    > > > >
    > > > >>>>drive and as it is not formatted etc, it cant boot
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>After having a look at the BIOS for the current setup this is what

    > it
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>says:
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>>Primary Master CD RW
    > > > >>>>Primary Slave DVD Rom
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>Secondary Master HDD
    > > > >>>>Secondary Slave Auto
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>The order of the boot(no joke meant honest !) is as follows
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>1 CD-RW
    > > > >>>>2 IDE HDD
    > > > >>>>3 Floppy
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>I have not had any problems with this setup until now and this

    > install
    > > > >>
    > > > >>of
    > > > >>
    > > > >>>a
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>>second HDD.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>I have tried Auto and Manual settings for the new HDD but am

    getting
    > > > >>>>nowhere.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>Any ideas as to what could be going wrong here and how to sort

    this
    > > > >
    > > > > out
    > > > >
    > > > >>>>please.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>TIA
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>Have you tried setting your new drive as cable select???
    > > > >>>Have you tried putting the hard drives on the primary IDE port??
    > > > >>>Gaz
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>
    > > > >>Hi m8
    > > > >>just tried that but still the same, it ignores the installed HD and

    > goes
    > > > >>straight to the new HD and asks for a boot disk.
    > > > >>Just wondering, the installed current HD is at the end of the cable

    > and
    > > i
    > > > >>have been connecting the new one to the connector half way up the

    > cable,
    > > > >>assuming thats right would it be worth switching them round
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > > Tried it anyway, getting desperate, it made no difference.
    > > > > Had a moment of inspiration, found an old 3 gig drive with some old

    > > files on
    > > > > it but no OS, set it to slave, powered up and machine detects and

    sees
    > > it as
    > > > > slave no problem.
    > > > > Starting to think that the new drive is no good. As soon as it is

    > > connected
    > > > > the boot sequence has a problem finding "Primary boot drive" and

    goes
    > > > > into"boot error non system disk, instert boot disk"
    > > > > What do you think any more suggestions to try ?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    Dr Hackenbush, Feb 24, 2004
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