Binaries?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Kenny, Aug 18, 2004.

  1. Kenny

    Kenny Guest

    Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The one in
    particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I don't
    get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all the parts then
    combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu click Combine and
    Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT 13). I posted a request to
    that group for FAQ's if available but got no response. Any help
    appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.

    --

    Kenny
    Kenny, Aug 18, 2004
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  2. Kenny

    joevan Guest

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:37:31 +0100, "Kenny" <> wrote:

    >Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The one in
    >particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    >I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I don't
    >get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all the parts then
    >combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu click Combine and
    >Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT 13). I posted a request to
    >that group for FAQ's if available but got no response. Any help
    >appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.


    You are using outlook express which does not by itself handle yEncode.
    If you get a real news package such as Agent forte, or one of the
    other news readers, they automatically download and decode yEncode.
    joevan
    joevan, Aug 18, 2004
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  3. Kenny

    Kenny Guest

    Thanks for the reply, have downloaded the trial version of Forte Agent which
    hopefully will allow me to get these files.

    --

    Kenny


    "joevan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:37:31 +0100, "Kenny" <> wrote:
    >
    > >Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The one in
    > >particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    > >I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I

    don't
    > >get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all the parts

    then
    > >combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu click Combine and
    > >Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT 13). I posted a request

    to
    > >that group for FAQ's if available but got no response. Any help
    > >appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.

    >
    > You are using outlook express which does not by itself handle yEncode.
    > If you get a real news package such as Agent forte, or one of the
    > other news readers, they automatically download and decode yEncode.
    > joevan
    Kenny, Aug 18, 2004
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  4. Kenny

    gangle Guest

    "Kenny" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The one in
    > particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    > I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I don't
    > get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all the parts then
    > combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu click Combine and
    > Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT 13). I posted a request to
    > that group for FAQ's if available but got no response. Any help
    > appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.


    To assemble a multi-part post using Outlook Express,
    click part 1, then, while holding down the Ctrl key,
    click each of the remaining parts. When you have
    highlighted the last part, Right click and choose
    "Combine and Decode." Make sure all parts are in
    order in the window that pops up, then click "OK."
    When all parts have downloaded and been decoded,
    a window will appear with the File Icon in the
    bottom left corner (OE4) or in the "Attach"
    line (OE5 & 6). Right click on the icon, choose
    "save as" and, within the browser window that
    appears, choose "Desktop" as the place to initially
    save it. If you want to keep it, you can later CUT and
    PASTE it from Desktop to any folder you want.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: In OE4 it is possible to download
    a multi-part binary while simultaneously reading or
    posting to other NGs, or reading/sending email -- But:
    in the "upgraded" OE5 & 6, downloading a multi-part file
    makes the program UNUSABLE for most other functions
    while the process goes on; so, if you frequently want to
    download multi-part binary files, it's more practical
    to use a dedicated news reading and posting program,
    such as Agent ("Full" Agent @ $29 -- NOT Free Agent):
    http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.htm
    or Xnews (free):
    http://xnews.newsguy.com/
    or Gravity (free):
    http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/start1.html
    for downloading binaries.
    Also, for $35, there is Newsbin, which is strictly
    for downloading binaries:
    http://www.newsbin.com/ .
    You could still use OE5 or 6 as an email program
    and to view/post to text-only NGs, while using one of
    the above programs to retrieve binaries.

    yEnc is a type of binary to text encoding that has much
    less "overhead" than Uuencoded files.
    Note: OE does not internally decode yEnc messages.
    You must use a third-party program to acheive this,
    the easiest being yProxy:
    http://www.brawnylads.com/software/

    Again, I suggest that, for binaries, it would be more
    practical to just switch to one of the dedicated newsreaders
    mentioned above, which all handle yEnc internally.

    RAR files are (usually) large multimedia type of files (.avi,
    ..mpg, .mov, .rm, etc.) that have been archived and split into
    parts. You need WinRar to reassemble the archive and
    decompress it. http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
    (shareware, but always usable, even after the trial period).
    gangle, Aug 18, 2004
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  5. Kenny

    Tony Cortese Guest

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:37:31 +0100, Kenny wrote:

    > Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The one in
    > particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    > I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I don't
    > get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all the parts then
    > combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu click Combine and
    > Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT 13). I posted a request to
    > that group for FAQ's if available but got no response. Any help
    > appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.



    Get a newsreader that optimized for binary downlod. They are much easier to
    use than OE. You click on a file an it knows to get all the parts and
    combines them for you. Check http://www.download.com and do a search.


    Tony Cortese
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    Tony Cortese, Aug 18, 2004
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  6. Kenny

    OldKenGoat Guest

    Kenny wrote:
    > Have only recently got access to broadband and binary groups. The
    > one in particular I am interested is news:alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
    > I'm using OE and if I open any of the posts all I get is gibberish, I
    > don't get a file with an attachment. I know that I have to get all
    > the parts then combine and decode. OE Help says on the Message menu
    > click Combine and Decode but it isn't there, only Unscramble (ROT
    > 13). I posted a request to that group for FAQ's if available but got
    > no response. Any help appreciated, I'm new to this particular thing.


    Kenny,

    Go here: http://www.shemes.com/ D/L the free GrabIt prog. Read the
    instructions, then let GrabIt do all the above for you. You won't even have
    to switch newsreaders!
    HTH,
    OldKenGoat
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What most Republicans don't seem to understand: "Rats and roaches live by
    competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of
    human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
    OldKenGoat, Aug 19, 2004
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