Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mail address?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by GraB, Nov 19, 2004.

  1. GraB

    GraB Guest

    From teletext:

    Bill Gates inundated with spam

    Email users inundated with unsolicited
    "spam" messages have reason to hope
    Microsoft Corp. will develop better
    tools for tackling the problem: Bill
    Gates is suffering more than anyone.

    Gates gets 4 million emails a day and
    is probably the most "spammed" person
    in the world, his Chief Executive
    Officer Steve Ballmer says.

    However, only a few junk emails gets
    through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    anti-spam technology that filters his
    messages.
    GraB, Nov 19, 2004
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  2. It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    <> said Blah blah blah...

    >However, only a few junk emails gets
    >through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >anti-spam technology that filters his
    >messages.


    Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    not selling it?
    --
    Regards,
    Waylon Kenning.

    1st Year B.I.T. WelTec
    Waylon Kenning, Nov 19, 2004
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  3. GraB

    Chris Mayhew Guest

    Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > <> said Blah blah blah...
    >
    >
    >>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>anti-spam technology that filters his
    >>messages.

    >
    >
    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > not selling it?

    Slavery has been outlawed, that's why. He has a whole department that
    filters his email.


    --
    Chris Mayhew, Nov 19, 2004
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  4. GraB

    Ken Dunstan Guest

    Waylon Kenning wrote in message news:

    > It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > <> said Blah blah blah...
    >
    > >However, only a few junk emails gets
    > >through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    > >anti-spam technology that filters his
    > >messages.

    >
    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > not selling it?



    Bill's white list should be available for sale?


    > 1st Year B.I.T. WelTec


    Differences between the real world and the ivory tower.

    The real world uses simple solutions that work.

    The real world looks at the benefits, not the technology. Eg the benefits of
    spam filtering, not how advanced the technology is.
    Ken Dunstan, Nov 19, 2004
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  5. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > <> said Blah blah blah...
    >
    >
    >>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>anti-spam technology that filters his
    >>messages.

    >
    >
    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > not selling it?


    Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf
    Nathan Mercer, Nov 19, 2004
    #5
  6. GraB

    Guest

    On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:00:56 +1300, Waylon Kenning wrote:

    >>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>anti-spam technology that filters his messages.

    >
    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're not
    > selling it?


    Because Mozilla is GPL compatible software. ;o)


    Divine

    --
    "Even the most fanatical Microsoft supporter has to see that Longhorn has
    become Shorthorn."
    , Nov 19, 2004
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  7. It seems like Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:24:14 GMT was when Ken Dunstan
    <> said Blah blah blah...

    >> Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    >> not selling it?

    >
    >Bill's white list should be available for sale?


    Uh, and if someone wants to contact you via email that you don't know
    about? While in Bill's case a little extreme (I'd assume he knows who
    he wants to talk to), if I was a small business I certainly wouldn't
    want to take the risk alienating my customers by rejecting their
    email.
    --
    Regards,
    Waylon Kenning.

    1st Year B.I.T. WelTec
    Waylon Kenning, Nov 20, 2004
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  8. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>anti-spam technology that filters his
    >>messages.


    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > not selling it?


    give it time.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Nov 20, 2004
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  9. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    wrote:
    >>>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>>anti-spam technology that filters his messages.


    >>Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're not
    >>selling it?


    > Because Mozilla is GPL compatible software. ;o)


    hahaha OMFG that got me to laugh, you're actually funny sometimes.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Nov 20, 2004
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  10. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > <> said Blah blah blah...
    >
    >
    >>However, only a few junk emails gets
    >>through to Gates's inbox thanks to
    >>anti-spam technology that filters his
    >>messages.

    >
    >
    > Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > not selling it?


    Probably because its GPL...spamassassin on linux is my bet for what
    protects his mail server... :)

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 22, 2004
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  11. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Nathan Mercer wrote:
    > Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >
    >> It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    >> <> said Blah blah blah...
    >>
    >>> However, only a few junk emails gets through to Gates's inbox thanks
    >>> to anti-spam technology that filters his messages.

    >>
    >> Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    >> not selling it?

    >
    > Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf


    I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 22, 2004
    #11
  12. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    In article <> in nz.comp on Mon, 22 Nov
    2004 20:24:25 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    says...
    > Hi there,
    >
    > Nathan Mercer wrote:
    > > Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > >
    > >> It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > >> <> said Blah blah blah...
    > >>
    > >>> However, only a few junk emails gets through to Gates's inbox thanks
    > >>> to anti-spam technology that filters his messages.
    > >>
    > >> Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > >> not selling it?

    > >
    > > Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf

    >
    > I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    > to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    > issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    > customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    > deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)


    Do you think Gates is God or something? Are you going to bow down to him
    every time you install Linux on something?
    Patrick Dunford, Nov 22, 2004
    #12
  13. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    > I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    > to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    > issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    > customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    > deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)


    he's been working on it, but the GPL boys don't like it... **** all he
    can do really.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Nov 22, 2004
    #13
  14. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Patrick Dunford wrote:
    > In article <> in nz.comp on Mon, 22 Nov
    > 2004 20:24:25 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    > says...
    >
    >>Hi there,
    >>
    >>Nathan Mercer wrote:
    >>
    >>>Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    >>>><> said Blah blah blah...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>However, only a few junk emails gets through to Gates's inbox thanks
    >>>>>to anti-spam technology that filters his messages.
    >>>>
    >>>>Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    >>>>not selling it?
    >>>
    >>>Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf

    >>
    >>I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    >>to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    >>issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    >>customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    >>deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)

    >
    > Do you think Gates is God or something? Are you going to bow down to him
    > every time you install Linux on something?


    Don't be daft! Gates said it, and if he cannot deliver on something as
    profound as that then he needs to reconsider carefully what he says,
    prior to saying it...

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 23, 2004
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  15. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
    > Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    >
    >> I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    >> to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    >> issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    >> customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    >> deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)

    >
    > he's been working on it, but the GPL boys don't like it... **** all he
    > can do really.


    He shouldn't GPL the thing then. Free stuff doesn't always have to be
    licensed to be useful, as I see it...

    I get a few spams like this...

    "Sa;ve 7_0% ord.ering onl/ine To`day! Vi!sit our Site and Sa!ve Big"

    ....and more like it. Its filtered into my Trash before I read it, but
    due to my ISP being less than proactive about filtering it I still
    have to download it so Netscape can junk it...if ISP's looked for the
    bad grammar they'd knock most of my spam before Netscape needs to...

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 23, 2004
    #15
  16. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    In article <> in nz.comp on Tue, 23 Nov
    2004 20:09:58 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    says...
    > Hi there,
    >
    > Patrick Dunford wrote:
    > > In article <> in nz.comp on Mon, 22 Nov
    > > 2004 20:24:25 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    > > says...
    > >
    > >>Hi there,
    > >>
    > >>Nathan Mercer wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    > >>>><> said Blah blah blah...
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>However, only a few junk emails gets through to Gates's inbox thanks
    > >>>>>to anti-spam technology that filters his messages.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    > >>>>not selling it?
    > >>>
    > >>>Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf
    > >>
    > >>I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    > >>to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    > >>issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    > >>customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    > >>deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)

    > >
    > > Do you think Gates is God or something? Are you going to bow down to him
    > > every time you install Linux on something?

    >
    > Don't be daft! Gates said it, and if he cannot deliver on something as
    > profound as that then he needs to reconsider carefully what he says,
    > prior to saying it...


    You are being daft.

    Gates making a pronouncement that MS want to do something about spam does
    not make him liable for failing to prevent it from happening.
    Patrick Dunford, Nov 23, 2004
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  17. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Patrick Dunford wrote:
    > In article <> in nz.comp on Tue, 23 Nov
    > 2004 20:09:58 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    > says...
    >
    >>Hi there,
    >>
    >>Patrick Dunford wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <> in nz.comp on Mon, 22 Nov
    >>>2004 20:24:25 +1300, Chris Wilkinson <>
    >>>says...
    >>>
    >>>>Hi there,
    >>>>
    >>>>Nathan Mercer wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>It seems like Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:38:39 +1300 was when GraB
    >>>>>><> said Blah blah blah...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>However, only a few junk emails gets through to Gates's inbox thanks
    >>>>>>>to anti-spam technology that filters his messages.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Yeah right. If their anti-spam technology is so good, how come they're
    >>>>>>not selling it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Its free www.microsoft.com/exchange/imf
    >>>>
    >>>>I'm filtering increasing amounts of spam every week, and its almost time
    >>>>to alter my email address. Bill Gates earlier spoke of dealing to the
    >>>>issue of spam, yet we see more of it than ever before. Can the paying
    >>>>customers hold him to his word? In another line of business he would be
    >>>>deemed to have failed in his objectives and be down the road! :)
    >>>
    >>>Do you think Gates is God or something? Are you going to bow down to him
    >>>every time you install Linux on something?

    >>
    >>Don't be daft! Gates said it, and if he cannot deliver on something as
    >>profound as that then he needs to reconsider carefully what he says,
    >>prior to saying it...

    >
    > You are being daft.
    >
    > Gates making a pronouncement that MS want to do something about spam does
    > not make him liable for failing to prevent it from happening.


    The majority of spam is generated by computers running Windows, so how
    is the man most responsible for said OS able to simply step back without
    even so much as an apology to the world for not delivering on a promise?

    Were he an employee he'd be down the road...just like you or I if we
    failed to deliver on our objectives...

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 23, 2004
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  18. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    >> he's been working on it, but the GPL boys don't like it... **** all he
    >> can do really.


    > He shouldn't GPL the thing then. Free stuff doesn't always have to be
    > licensed to be useful, as I see it...


    he's not GPL'ing it... and that seems to be the problem(from my limited
    understanding of it).
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Nov 23, 2004
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  19. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Hi there,

    Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
    > Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    >
    >>> he's been working on it, but the GPL boys don't like it... **** all
    >>> he can do really.

    >
    >
    >> He shouldn't GPL the thing then. Free stuff doesn't always have to be
    >> licensed to be useful, as I see it...

    >
    >
    > he's not GPL'ing it... and that seems to be the problem(from my limited
    > understanding of it).


    Its pretty crazy really. Who knows whats really going on? I suspect
    no-one...not even those at the center of it all...

    It reminds me of arguments about NVidia drivers for linux. Advocates
    for OSS swear they'll never use the drivers because the source is not
    available, so their NV cards run like dump and only in 2D! Meanwhile
    I've just installed 1.0-6629 and my 'lowly' FX5600 is pumping out
    50-100fps in UT2003 @ 1024x768 max detail. I know which driver I'd
    prefer to use...not the OSS one!

    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch, New Zealand.
    Remove spamblocker to send replies direct to my email...
    Chris Wilkinson, Nov 23, 2004
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  20. Re: Billy gets a bit of SPAM. Perhaps he doesn't mung his e-mailaddress?

    Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    >> Gates making a pronouncement that MS want to do something about spam
    >> does not make him liable for failing to prevent it from happening.


    > The majority of spam is generated by computers running Windows, so how
    > is the man most responsible for said OS able to simply step back without
    > even so much as an apology to the world for not delivering on a promise?


    If users dont patch their machines, it's hardly his fault, and yes I
    realise that MS is responsible for the hole ridden code in the first
    place, but it is the users choice/responsibility to patch when given a
    patch.

    > Were he an employee he'd be down the road...just like you or I if we
    > failed to deliver on our objectives...


    but he is not an employee, he is the very wealthy owner. :)
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Nov 23, 2004
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