Big upsurge in wormy spam

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Gib Bogle, Sep 19, 2003.

  1. Gib Bogle

    Gib Bogle Guest

    I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    "senders":

    Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    Microsoft Message Delivery System
    Security Bulletin
    MS Security Division
    Microsoft Security Section
    Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    Admin
    Administrator
    etc. etc.

    I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    targetted me?

    Gib
    Gib Bogle, Sep 19, 2003
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  2. Gib Bogle

    cowboyz Guest

    "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    > >share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    > >pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    > >"senders":
    > >
    > >Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    > >Microsoft Message Delivery System
    > >Security Bulletin
    > >MS Security Division
    > >Microsoft Security Section
    > >Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    > >Admin
    > >Administrator
    > >etc. etc.
    > >
    > >I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > >targetted me?

    >
    > No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    > coming from NZ!
    >
    > --
    > Karen Hayward-King
    >
    > "I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    > who said that the best thing about the future
    > is that it only comes one day at a time."
    >
    > Dean Acheson


    I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install of XP
    last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and virus
    emails.......

    sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought someone
    wanted to write to me. How disappointing.
    cowboyz, Sep 19, 2003
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  3. Gib Bogle

    Gib Bogle Guest

    cowboyz wrote:

    > "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    >>>share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    >>>pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    >>>"senders":
    >>>
    >>>Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    >>>Microsoft Message Delivery System
    >>>Security Bulletin
    >>>MS Security Division
    >>>Microsoft Security Section
    >>>Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    >>>Admin
    >>>Administrator
    >>>etc. etc.
    >>>
    >>>I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    >>>targetted me?

    >>
    >>No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    >>coming from NZ!
    >>
    >>--
    >>Karen Hayward-King
    >>
    >>"I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    >> who said that the best thing about the future
    >> is that it only comes one day at a time."
    >>
    >> Dean Acheson

    >
    >
    > I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install of XP
    > last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and virus
    > emails.......
    >
    > sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought someone
    > wanted to write to me. How disappointing.


    I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    sending them :)

    Gib
    Gib Bogle, Sep 19, 2003
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  4. Gib Bogle

    cowboyz Guest

    "Gib Bogle" <> wrote in message
    news:bkg0i2$spf$...
    > cowboyz wrote:
    >
    > > "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >
    > >>On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    > >><> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than

    my
    > >>>share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    > >>>pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    > >>>"senders":
    > >>>
    > >>>Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    > >>>Microsoft Message Delivery System
    > >>>Security Bulletin
    > >>>MS Security Division
    > >>>Microsoft Security Section
    > >>>Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    > >>>Admin
    > >>>Administrator
    > >>>etc. etc.
    > >>>
    > >>>I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > >>>targetted me?
    > >>
    > >>No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    > >>coming from NZ!
    > >>
    > >>--
    > >>Karen Hayward-King
    > >>
    > >>"I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    > >> who said that the best thing about the future
    > >> is that it only comes one day at a time."
    > >>
    > >> Dean Acheson

    > >
    > >
    > > I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install of XP
    > > last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and virus
    > > emails.......
    > >
    > > sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought

    someone
    > > wanted to write to me. How disappointing.

    >
    > I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    > download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    > sending them :)
    >
    > Gib
    >


    I wouldn't bother. I have got their service and I'm still getting them
    cowboyz, Sep 19, 2003
    #4
  5. In <bkfqd5$dsv$> Gib Bogle wrote:
    > I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than
    > my share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    > pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    > "senders":
    >
    > Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    > Microsoft Message Delivery System
    > Security Bulletin
    > MS Security Division
    > Microsoft Security Section
    > Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    > Admin
    > Administrator
    > etc. etc.
    >
    > I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > targetted me?
    >
    > Gib


    *splutter* You call 60 an upsurge? Since yesterday I've been getting one
    every 30 seconds. This morning there were about 1500 waiting! Most of
    them have had the attachment stripped by ihug's virus filter, my spam
    filter catches them all, and I'm running Mac OS X which at last count
    had zero known viruses, but on a 56k modem it's going to take an hour
    just to fetch them all in case there's some real mail in that lot.

    I tried POPmonitor, but by the time it loads all the headers and then
    deletes the emails I don't wont it takes just as long. <sigh>

    --
    Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand

    Apple II - FutureCop:LAPD - iMac Game Wizard
    http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws/
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Oh sweet Baby Jesus, if Windows is the OS of the future, please
    let me die now.
    Bryan Chaffin, The Mac Observer
    Roger Johnstone, Sep 19, 2003
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  6. Gib Bogle

    steve Guest

    Gib Bogle wrote:

    > I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > targetted me?
    >
    > Gib


    They must be mainly coming from IP addresses my firewall blocks as I
    have only seen one of these in the past week.
    steve, Sep 20, 2003
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  7. Gib Bogle

    pete Guest

    "cowboyz" <> wrote in message
    news:bkg1di$v5q$...
    >
    > "Gib Bogle" <> wrote in message
    > news:bkg0i2$spf$...
    > > cowboyz wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > >
    > > >>On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    > > >><> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>>I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than

    > my
    > > >>>share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    > > >>>pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    > > >>>"senders":
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    > > >>>Microsoft Message Delivery System
    > > >>>Security Bulletin
    > > >>>MS Security Division
    > > >>>Microsoft Security Section
    > > >>>Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    > > >>>Admin
    > > >>>Administrator
    > > >>>etc. etc.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > > >>>targetted me?
    > > >>
    > > >>No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    > > >>coming from NZ!
    > > >>
    > > >>--
    > > >>Karen Hayward-King
    > > >>
    > > >>"I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    > > >> who said that the best thing about the future
    > > >> is that it only comes one day at a time."
    > > >>
    > > >> Dean Acheson
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install of

    XP
    > > > last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and virus
    > > > emails.......
    > > >
    > > > sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought

    > someone
    > > > wanted to write to me. How disappointing.

    > >
    > > I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    > > download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    > > sending them :)
    > >
    > > Gib
    > >

    >
    > I wouldn't bother. I have got their service and I'm still getting them


    I'm on Paradise and haven't had a single one (of the bogus "Microsoft"
    ones ).
    I also have SpamPal with Baysian filters and thats getting all of the other
    shit
    pete, Sep 20, 2003
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  8. Gib Bogle

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Roger Johnstone" wrote
    > I tried POPmonitor, but by the time it loads all the headers and then
    > deletes the emails I don't wont it takes just as long. <sigh>


    You could always use webmail...
    T.N.O., Sep 20, 2003
    #8
  9. Gib Bogle

    Gavin Tunney Guest

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    <> wrote:

    >I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    >share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    >pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    >"senders":
    >
    >Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    >Microsoft Message Delivery System
    >Security Bulletin
    >MS Security Division
    >Microsoft Security Section
    >Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    >Admin
    >Administrator
    >etc. etc.
    >
    >I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    >targetted me?
    >
    >Gib


    I've had 50odd this morning, interestingly sent to various of my email
    addresses so plenty of people out there have been running attachments
    they shouldn't have.

    Does anyone know if the likes of Xtra & other ISPs who have virus
    scanning tell people when they've sent a virus? When the sender of an
    email is fudged the only way the actual sender is going to find out
    they have a worm is if their ISP tells them.....or they finally figure
    out that installing/updating AV is a worthy cause.

    Gavin
    Gavin Tunney, Sep 20, 2003
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  10. Gib Bogle

    Callum Guest

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:37:26 +1200, Gib Bogle
    <> wrote:

    >cowboyz wrote:
    >
    >> "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>
    >>>On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    >>><> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    >>>>share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    >>>>pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    >>>>"senders":
    >>>>
    >>>>Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    >>>>Microsoft Message Delivery System
    >>>>Security Bulletin
    >>>>MS Security Division
    >>>>Microsoft Security Section
    >>>>Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    >>>>Admin
    >>>>Administrator
    >>>>etc. etc.
    >>>>
    >>>>I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    >>>>targetted me?
    >>>
    >>>No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    >>>coming from NZ!
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>Karen Hayward-King
    >>>
    >>>"I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    >>> who said that the best thing about the future
    >>> is that it only comes one day at a time."
    >>>
    >>> Dean Acheson

    >>
    >>
    >> I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install of XP
    >> last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and virus
    >> emails.......
    >>
    >> sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought someone
    >> wanted to write to me. How disappointing.

    >
    >I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    >download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    >sending them :)
    >
    >Gib



    Im using IHateSpam for outlookexpress all i do is ban entire domain
    name and bounce back the email
    Callum, Sep 20, 2003
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  11. Gib Bogle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    "pete" <> wrote in message
    news:y0Mab.2521$...
    > I also have SpamPal with Baysian filters and thats getting all of the

    other
    > shit


    Hey Pete. How do you train the bayesian filter with SpamPal? Or does it
    somehow train itself? I don't see how it can do that with no user input.
    (Duh!)
    --
    ~misfit~



    ---
    Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
    Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    Version: 6.0.520 / Virus Database: 318 - Release Date: 18/09/2003
    ~misfit~, Sep 20, 2003
    #11
  12. Gib Bogle

    Matt B Guest

    In news:bkg1di$v5q$,
    cowboyz <> wrote:
    > "Gib Bogle" <> wrote in message
    > news:bkg0i2$spf$...
    >> cowboyz wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Karen Hayward-King" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>
    >>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more
    >>>>> than my share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They
    >>>>> are all pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on.
    >>>>> Example "senders":
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    >>>>> Microsoft Message Delivery System
    >>>>> Security Bulletin
    >>>>> MS Security Division
    >>>>> Microsoft Security Section
    >>>>> Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    >>>>> Admin
    >>>>> Administrator
    >>>>> etc. etc.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has
    >>>>> someone targetted me?
    >>>>
    >>>> No, I've been getting a whole lot of them as well. Some are even
    >>>> coming from NZ!
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Karen Hayward-King
    >>>>
    >>>> "I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
    >>>> who said that the best thing about the future
    >>>> is that it only comes one day at a time."
    >>>>
    >>>> Dean Acheson
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I was just about to post the same question. I did a fresh install
    >>> of XP last night. Checked my email this morning and 34 spam and
    >>> virus emails.......
    >>>
    >>> sucks really. When it started with 1 of 34 downloading I thought
    >>> someone wanted to write to me. How disappointing.

    >>
    >> I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    >> download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe
    >> Ihug is sending them :)
    >>
    >> Gib
    >>

    >
    > I wouldn't bother. I have got their service and I'm still getting
    > them


    It's not spam - it's a virus...
    http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/

    --
    Regards,

    Matt B
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    There are 10 types of people.
    Those who get binary...
    And those who don't.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Matt B, Sep 20, 2003
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  13. Gib Bogle

    Lennier Guest

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:37:26 +1200, Gib Bogle wrote:

    > I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    > download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    > sending them :)


    There is a programme called "Mailwasher".

    It enables you to see what's on the server in your mailbox and to either
    delete it unread, and/or to bounce it back, or to blacklist that sender.

    It's very useful indeed for reducing unwanted emails.

    Lennier
    Lennier, Sep 20, 2003
    #13
  14. Gib Bogle

    Lennier Guest

    On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:42:24 +0000, Gavin Tunney wrote:

    > they finally figure out that
    > installing/updating AV is a worthy cause.


    I have never installed Anti Virus software - have never needed it.

    I do not accept Micro$oft word documents. I do not use Outlook or Outlook
    Express - in fact I mostly do not use (these days) M$ Windows. I
    vigorously bounce unsolicited attachments. And I have a "belt and braces"
    approach to firewalling.

    My LAN has a firewall (smoothwall), and the M$ Windows box has Zonealarm,
    and I default all Applications of M$ Windows to being automatically denied
    access to the Internet OR even to the rest of the LAN.

    And I have gone through the Windows box to make sure that Windows ALWAYS
    displays file extensions - even those which it hides when you ask it not
    to hide any extensions.

    Thus, in over four years, while I have had viruses posted to me, I have
    not had one instance of viral or worm infection.

    Oh... And I do not have my email address listed on a website, and I do not
    have my email address listed in any software which can be used to harvest
    email addresses, and I do not use my email address when posting to Usenet.

    Therefore I do not get spam.

    I don't think that this, however, is a solution which can work for
    businesses who want their email address available to everyone.

    Lennier
    Lennier, Sep 20, 2003
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  15. Gib Bogle

    DPF Guest

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:25 +1200, Gib Bogle
    <> wrote:

    >I always get my share of junk email, but this morning I got more than my
    >share: about 60 messages, with about 12 variations. They are all
    >pretending to be from MS, or the Administrator and so on. Example
    >"senders":
    >
    >Microsoft Corporation Network Security Department
    >Microsoft Message Delivery System
    >Security Bulletin
    >MS Security Division
    >Microsoft Security Section
    >Microsoft Corporation Customer Bulletin
    >Admin
    >Administrator
    >etc. etc.
    >
    >I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    >targetted me?


    Up to 300 and counting.

    DPF
    --
    Blog: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz
    E-mail:
    ICQ: 29964527
    MSN:
    DPF, Sep 20, 2003
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  16. Gib Bogle

    pete Guest

    "~misfit~" <misfit@'SPAMTRAP'orcon.net.nz> wrote in message
    news:RYMab.152983$...
    >
    > "pete" <> wrote in message
    > news:y0Mab.2521$...
    > > I also have SpamPal with Baysian filters and thats getting all of the

    > other
    > > shit

    >
    > Hey Pete. How do you train the bayesian filter with SpamPal? Or does it
    > somehow train itself? I don't see how it can do that with no user input.
    > (Duh!)
    > --
    > ~misfit~


    Bugger all "training" involved. Just downloaded SpamPal and the plug-ins
    (Baysian,
    RegExFilter and URLBody) and let it rip.
    I have blocked by country (ie china, korea, russia, nigeria, etc, plus
    selected
    most of the public blacklists (I don't expect much international e-mail)
    I check what arrives in the spam bucket for legit mails and where necessary
    whitelist
    them.
    I think its pretty good for the price!
    pete, Sep 20, 2003
    #16
  17. Gib Bogle

    cowboyz Guest


    > >>
    > >>I just got another 20. They are big, too, and take a long time to
    > >>download. I'm ready to subscribe to Ihug's spam blocker - maybe Ihug is
    > >>sending them :)
    > >>
    > >>Gib
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > I wouldn't bother. I have got their service and I'm still getting them

    >
    > Why can't Ihug block them?
    >
    > Gib
    >


    dunno. I am going to ring them later. If there is a virus in the email then
    I would prefer just not recieving it at all rather than getting 50 messages
    saying the virus has been deleted.
    cowboyz, Sep 20, 2003
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  18. Gib Bogle

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Lennier" wrote
    > > they finally figure out that
    > > installing/updating AV is a worthy cause.

    >
    > I have never installed Anti Virus software - have never needed it.


    How did you know that you never needed it? how did you know that you never
    had a virus?
    T.N.O., Sep 20, 2003
    #18
  19. Gib Bogle

    Enkidu Guest

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:41:48 +1200, Lennier
    <> wrote:
    >
    > I vigorously bounce unsolicited attachments.
    >

    Bad idea. Just drop the things. ALL modern viruses use faked Sender
    addresses and even if you analyse the Received: headers, it doesn't
    guarantee that you will bounce to the right person. Having seen
    *thousands* of invalid bounce and virus warning messages, at times I
    feel like I want to modify the computer systems of those who bounce
    messages with a sledgehammer. Windows, Linux or Mac, I don't care.
    They'd all make a satisfying *CRUNCH*.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign
    that the conspiracy is working.
    Enkidu, Sep 20, 2003
    #19
  20. Gib Bogle

    Dave Guest

    > I wonder if others are also seeing this sudden flood, or has someone
    > targetted me?
    >


    You are not alone. It's a challenge to see how fast you can hit the del key!
    2 a second is average.

    If the culprits had a bullet between the eyes it would be fair justice
    except they wouldn't feel a thing. They are utterly brainless.

    I find it hard to believe that responsible ISPs can't block anything with
    the word Microsoft in it - at least find an antidote. I guess you'll need to
    pay for that since crime is an "acceptable" industry.
    DW
    Dave, Sep 20, 2003
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