Best Way to Prep for 291

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  1. I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to prep
    for this test. Recommendations? Sources?

    TX
    =?Utf-8?B?SmFzb24=?=, Sep 30, 2006
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    Montreal MCT Guest

    Hi Jason,

    As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft® Windows
    Serverâ„¢ 2003 Network Infrastructure
    (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear, concise,
    and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness Review Suite
    practice exams which have always been a big help to me.

    Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!

    Good luck and let us know how you do!

    M

    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Jason" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to prep
    > for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >
    > TX
    Montreal MCT, Oct 1, 2006
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  3. I used the MCP book and included measureUP for 290 (passed with 880). I
    felt it didn't prepare me for the types of questions they asked, I didn't
    even know there was going to be sims on the test. Also the measureUP had
    these complicated matching/order of tasks which were totally not on the
    test.
    I am going to begin study for 291 and unsure if the MCP book is the way to
    go. Should I use another practice suite to supplement?

    "Montreal MCT" <new> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi Jason,
    >
    > As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    > Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    > (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    > Windows ServerT 2003 Network Infrastructure
    > (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    > concise, and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness
    > Review Suite practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >
    > Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    > worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >
    > Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >
    > M
    >
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Jason" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    >>prep
    >> for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >>
    >> TX

    >
    Douglas Davenport, Oct 1, 2006
    #3
  4. i'm studying for the 70-294 exam. i am trying to see how i would implement
    password policies. This is what i think is by going into active directory
    users and computers, right click the domain, click properties and click on
    the group policy tab. click new and type DomainPasswordPolicy for the GPO
    and press enter. and then to define password polices is to double click
    domain password policy and in the Group Policy Object Editor, under computer
    configuration, expand windows settngs, expand security settings, expand
    account policies and then click password polices and then i can enforce
    settings. let me know if this is correct.

    Now the second part. there are 2 departments let say accounting and sales.
    how do i enforce password policy for just the sales department without
    affecting the accounting department. i'm assuming i have to set the gpo and
    link this to sales department, how do i do this?

    "Douglas Davenport" wrote:

    > I used the MCP book and included measureUP for 290 (passed with 880). I
    > felt it didn't prepare me for the types of questions they asked, I didn't
    > even know there was going to be sims on the test. Also the measureUP had
    > these complicated matching/order of tasks which were totally not on the
    > test.
    > I am going to begin study for 291 and unsure if the MCP book is the way to
    > go. Should I use another practice suite to supplement?
    >
    > "Montreal MCT" <new> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hi Jason,
    > >
    > > As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    > > Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    > > (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    > > Windows ServerT 2003 Network Infrastructure
    > > (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    > > concise, and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness
    > > Review Suite practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    > >
    > > Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    > > worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    > >
    > > Good luck and let us know how you do!
    > >
    > > M
    > >
    > > --
    > > MDG, MCT
    > > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    > >
    > >
    > > "Jason" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >>I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    > >>prep
    > >> for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    > >>
    > >> TX

    > >

    >
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?bWFu?=, Oct 1, 2006
    #4
  5. =?Utf-8?B?SmFzb24=?=

    Montreal MCT Guest

    Hi Douglas,

    Let me get this straight in my head, so we're clear: You used MS Press to
    study for an exam, you passed with 880 (really an excellent score), and you
    feel you were not fully prepared for the exam?

    So we're clear... It sounds to me like you were very clear. The book may
    not have told you the form of the questions, but you obviously had the
    knowledge needed to pass. The list questions were harder than what was on
    the test? I agree, I hate that... but you got an 880 and that in my mind is
    validation of the study materials used!

    M

    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    MVP, Windows Server - Customer Experience
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Douglas Davenport" <> wrote in message
    news:b4HTg.7316$...
    >I used the MCP book and included measureUP for 290 (passed with 880). I
    >felt it didn't prepare me for the types of questions they asked, I didn't
    >even know there was going to be sims on the test. Also the measureUP had
    >these complicated matching/order of tasks which were totally not on the
    >test.
    > I am going to begin study for 291 and unsure if the MCP book is the way to
    > go. Should I use another practice suite to supplement?
    >
    > "Montreal MCT" <new> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Hi Jason,
    >>
    >> As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    >> Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    >> (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    >> Windows ServerT 2003 Network Infrastructure
    >> (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    >> concise, and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness
    >> Review Suite practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >>
    >> Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    >> worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >>
    >> Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >>
    >> M
    >>
    >> --
    >> MDG, MCT
    >> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    >> Certified Small Business Specialist
    >> Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jason" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    >>>prep
    >>> for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >>>
    >>> TX

    >>

    >
    >
    Montreal MCT, Oct 1, 2006
    #5
  6. Thank you Montreal. You confirmed some of my own convictions and I also
    recommend the MS Press book. I've still seen some failure with this however.
    Could be that the folks who struggle don't know how to use the guide though.
    I tell folks if they're going to study for the 291, use the mspress kit and
    DO the exercises.

    I guess I'm thinking that the test is based on KB and Whitepaper docs.
    I've been toying with the idea of making a website with an index of relevant
    KB articles that match the test objectives. I thought that this might be a
    better resource than the MS press kit or any others. What do you think?
    Does such a site already exist? I know when I read the WSUS deployment
    guide, alot of lights turned on for me and helped my understanding
    tremondously.

    "Montreal MCT" wrote:

    > Hi Jason,
    >
    > As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    > Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    > (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft® Windows
    > Serverâ„¢ 2003 Network Infrastructure
    > (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear, concise,
    > and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness Review Suite
    > practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >
    > Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    > worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >
    > Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >
    > M
    >
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Jason" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to prep
    > > for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    > >
    > > TX

    >
    =?Utf-8?B?SmFzb24=?=, Oct 2, 2006
    #6
  7. =?Utf-8?B?SmFzb24=?=

    Montreal MCT Guest

    I think it would make for an interesting site :)

    M

    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    MVP, Windows Server - Customer Experience
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Jason" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thank you Montreal. You confirmed some of my own convictions and I also
    > recommend the MS Press book. I've still seen some failure with this
    > however.
    > Could be that the folks who struggle don't know how to use the guide
    > though.
    > I tell folks if they're going to study for the 291, use the mspress kit
    > and
    > DO the exercises.
    >
    > I guess I'm thinking that the test is based on KB and Whitepaper docs.
    > I've been toying with the idea of making a website with an index of
    > relevant
    > KB articles that match the test objectives. I thought that this might be
    > a
    > better resource than the MS press kit or any others. What do you think?
    > Does such a site already exist? I know when I read the WSUS deployment
    > guide, alot of lights turned on for me and helped my understanding
    > tremondously.
    >
    > "Montreal MCT" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Jason,
    >>
    >> As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    >> Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    >> (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    >> Windows
    >> Serverâ„¢ 2003 Network Infrastructure
    >> (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    >> concise,
    >> and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness Review
    >> Suite
    >> practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >>
    >> Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    >> worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >>
    >> Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >>
    >> M
    >>
    >> --
    >> MDG, MCT
    >> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    >> Certified Small Business Specialist
    >> Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jason" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    >> >prep
    >> > for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >> >
    >> > TX

    >>
    Montreal MCT, Oct 2, 2006
    #7
  8. =?Utf-8?B?SmFzb24=?=

    Guest Guest

    "Jason" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > I guess I'm thinking that the test is based on KB and Whitepaper docs.
    > I've been toying with the idea of making a website with an index of

    relevant
    > KB articles that match the test objectives. I thought that this might be

    a
    > better resource than the MS press kit or any others. What do you think?
    > Does such a site already exist? I know when I read the WSUS deployment
    > guide, alot of lights turned on for me and helped my understanding
    > tremondously.
    >


    Jason, very interesting idea. If you'd be willing to support CertGuard a
    little, and spend a little of your free time on it, I will definitely
    contribute as much as I can, and I would definitely get it up on the
    CertGuard website with your name as a major contributor.

    If you're interested, e-mail me @: newsgroups <at> certguard <dot> com, or
    register in my forums and we can work something out in there.


    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- You think you know IT?!
    -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
    Guest, Oct 2, 2006
    #8
  9. Montreal,
    Firstly, thank you for validating my score, I didn't realize that was
    considered an "excellent" score. I just hadn't compared notes with anyone
    and assumed that was only decent.
    Secondly, what really turned me off at the test was when I realized that the
    questions on the real test relied more on trivia type facts whereas the
    practice focused on more involved complicated scenarios. (eg NTFS/share
    ermissions with many groups and denys etc. I spent many practice hours
    killing myself to work out those questions in short time and then found out
    that they don't exist. frustrating.

    I guess in retrospect I was coming down too hard on the MSP books - they are
    very clear and concise. I did find some minor errors, though.It is
    reassuring to hear that you recommend it for 291 as well. In fact I have
    already begun plowing through the text.
    doug
    "Montreal MCT" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi Douglas,
    >
    > Let me get this straight in my head, so we're clear: You used MS Press to
    > study for an exam, you passed with 880 (really an excellent score), and
    > you feel you were not fully prepared for the exam?
    >
    > So we're clear... It sounds to me like you were very clear. The book may
    > not have told you the form of the questions, but you obviously had the
    > knowledge needed to pass. The list questions were harder than what was on
    > the test? I agree, I hate that... but you got an 880 and that in my mind
    > is validation of the study materials used!
    >
    > M
    >
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > MVP, Windows Server - Customer Experience
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Douglas Davenport" <> wrote in message
    > news:b4HTg.7316$...
    >>I used the MCP book and included measureUP for 290 (passed with 880). I
    >>felt it didn't prepare me for the types of questions they asked, I didn't
    >>even know there was going to be sims on the test. Also the measureUP had
    >>these complicated matching/order of tasks which were totally not on the
    >>test.
    >> I am going to begin study for 291 and unsure if the MCP book is the way
    >> to go. Should I use another practice suite to supplement?
    >>
    >> "Montreal MCT" <new> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> Hi Jason,
    >>>
    >>> As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    >>> Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    >>> (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    >>> Windows ServerT 2003 Network Infrastructure
    >>> (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    >>> concise, and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness
    >>> Review Suite practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >>>
    >>> Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do
    >>> not worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >>>
    >>> Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >>>
    >>> M
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> MDG, MCT
    >>> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    >>> Certified Small Business Specialist
    >>> Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jason" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>>I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    >>>>prep
    >>>> for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >>>>
    >>>> TX
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    Douglas Davenport, Oct 4, 2006
    #9
  10. That would be sweet. But make sure your links don't stale out on you, I hate
    when KB links don't work. That would be a nice reference.
    "Jason" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thank you Montreal. You confirmed some of my own convictions and I also
    > recommend the MS Press book. I've still seen some failure with this
    > however.
    > Could be that the folks who struggle don't know how to use the guide
    > though.
    > I tell folks if they're going to study for the 291, use the mspress kit
    > and
    > DO the exercises.
    >
    > I guess I'm thinking that the test is based on KB and Whitepaper docs.
    > I've been toying with the idea of making a website with an index of
    > relevant
    > KB articles that match the test objectives. I thought that this might be
    > a
    > better resource than the MS press kit or any others. What do you think?
    > Does such a site already exist? I know when I read the WSUS deployment
    > guide, alot of lights turned on for me and helped my understanding
    > tremondously.
    >
    > "Montreal MCT" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Jason,
    >>
    >> As I have said before I like the Self-Paced Traning books from Microsoft
    >> Press. The one you should look for is MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit
    >> (Exam 70-291): Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    >> Windows
    >> ServerT 2003 Network Infrastructure
    >> (http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/5433.asp). They are clear,
    >> concise,
    >> and written to the exam. As well they come with the Readiness Review
    >> Suite
    >> practice exams which have always been a big help to me.
    >>
    >> Very important: respect the exam, but do not psyche yourself out. do not
    >> worry about how others do. Study, practice, and pass!
    >>
    >> Good luck and let us know how you do!
    >>
    >> M
    >>
    >> --
    >> MDG, MCT
    >> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    >> Certified Small Business Specialist
    >> Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jason" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I know a lot of folks crashing on 291. Wanted to know the best way to
    >> >prep
    >> > for this test. Recommendations? Sources?
    >> >
    >> > TX

    >>
    Douglas Davenport, Oct 4, 2006
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