Best spam blocker?

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by John, Dec 9, 2003.

  1. John

    John Guest

    Hello.

    I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    available?

    I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.

    What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.

    Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    ZL9.

    I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    virus.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    getting through in the first place.

    At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    files.

    Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.

    John
    John, Dec 9, 2003
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  2. John

    Night_Seer Guest

    John wrote:
    > Hello.
    >
    > I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    > available?
    >
    > I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    > don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.
    >
    > What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    > viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    > it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    > origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    > update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.
    >
    > Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    > Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    > and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    > contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    > ZL9.
    >
    > I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    > is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    > in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    > the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    > virus.
    >
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    > getting through in the first place.
    >
    > At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    > thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    > certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    > apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    > though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    > files.
    >
    > Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    > for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.
    >
    > John


    I use Mailwasher. It doesn't even get into your mailbox until you let
    it. It shows you a preview of the email, and doesn't download the email
    until you tell it to open the mail program. There is a free version I
    beieve, but I went witht he paid, as I liked it so much.

    --
    Night_Seer
    Night_Seer, Dec 9, 2003
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  3. John

    Forest Guest

    I've been using http://www.activatormail.com/ for a couple of years now, I
    get no spam/porn/viruses. I pay them to have my mail forwarded to my pop
    account. Best money I ever spent!

    From their site:
    "ActivatorMail is a Managed Service Provider (MSP) specializing in email
    security. Our revolutionary counter-measures enable customers to be
    protected from threats such as viruses, pornographic material and
    unsolicited mail (spam), long before they reach their network boundaries
    saving bandwidth and lowering the risks of legal liability and potentially
    costly network attacks."

    "John" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello.
    >
    > I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    > available?
    >
    > I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    > don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.
    >
    > What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    > viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    > it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    > origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    > update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.
    >
    > Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    > Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    > and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    > contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    > ZL9.
    >
    > I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    > is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    > in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    > the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    > virus.
    >
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    > getting through in the first place.
    >
    > At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    > thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    > certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    > apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    > though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    > files.
    >
    > Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    > for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    Forest, Dec 9, 2003
    #3
  4. John wrote:
    > Hello.
    >
    > I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    > available?
    >
    > I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    > don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.
    >
    > What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    > viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    > it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    > origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    > update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.
    >
    > Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    > Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    > and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    > contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    > ZL9.
    >
    > I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    > is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    > in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    > the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    > virus.
    >
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    > getting through in the first place.
    >
    > At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    > thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    > certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    > apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    > though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    > files.
    >
    > Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    > for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.
    >
    > John
    >
    >

    The best spam blocker I've found is Netscape 7 aka Mozilla 1 (don't
    remember the exact point release they're up to now). But it doesn't
    prevent it from reaching your inbox, it just moves/deletes (your choice)
    it automatically as it comes in.

    The problem with all server-based solutions is that none provide a
    guarantee against false positives. If someone sends me a message then I
    want that message to reach me. Maybe it'll go into an unexpected place,
    but at least I'll have it-it won't be stuck on a server someplace
    waiting for me to OK it.

    I don't want you to think that Netscape's spam blocker doesn't
    incorrectly identify some real messages as spam-it doesn't provide any
    more of a guarantee against false positives than the server-based
    solutions do. The reason I like it better is because of how it handles
    the messages it identifies as spam. Of course it also does a good job of
    identifying spam in the first place, otherwise I wouldn't like it. But
    then some of the server-based solutions also do a good job of
    identifying spam. It's just that when they do identify one, right or
    wrong, they then prevent you from receiving it until you go out & OK it.
    In Netscape, the way I have it set, the spam simply goes into my Junk
    mail folder for 2 weeks, after which it's automatically deleted.
    Calvin Crumrine, Dec 10, 2003
    #4
  5. John

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    Calvin Crumrine <> wrote in news:vtcqubf42bg027
    @corp.supernews.com:

    > The best spam blocker I've found is Netscape 7 aka Mozilla 1 (don't
    > remember the exact point release they're up to now). But it doesn't
    > prevent it from reaching your inbox, it just moves/deletes (your choice)
    > it automatically as it comes in.
    >


    Have you tried the newer Mozilla builds that have the bayesian (however
    it's spelled) filter, that learns what spam is by what you tell it? There
    are a few other freeware and commercial programs with the same bayesian
    filter logic around, I like that my email client can learn what spam is
    from me, instead of telling me what spam is for me.

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    DeMoN LaG, Dec 10, 2003
    #5
  6. John

    Thor Guest

    "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
    news:Xns944CE014A5F93Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > Calvin Crumrine <> wrote in news:vtcqubf42bg027
    > @corp.supernews.com:
    >
    > > The best spam blocker I've found is Netscape 7 aka Mozilla 1 (don't
    > > remember the exact point release they're up to now). But it doesn't
    > > prevent it from reaching your inbox, it just moves/deletes (your choice)
    > > it automatically as it comes in.
    > >

    >
    > Have you tried the newer Mozilla builds that have the bayesian (however
    > it's spelled) filter, that learns what spam is by what you tell it? There
    > are a few other freeware and commercial programs with the same bayesian
    > filter logic around, I like that my email client can learn what spam is
    > from me, instead of telling me what spam is for me.


    I can definitely vouch for the efficacy of bayesean filters. I haven't had
    to reclassify a false positive or false negative in months, with PoPfile (a
    free bayesean filter). It has so effectively learned what is good and what
    is bad, that I pretty much never have to worry about spam.
    Thor, Dec 10, 2003
    #6
  7. John

    Wizard Guest

    SpamHater & and Sam Spade

    John wrote:
    >
    > Hello.
    >
    > I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    > available?
    >
    > I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    > don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.
    >
    > What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    > viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    > it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    > origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    > update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.
    >
    > Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    > Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    > and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    > contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    > ZL9.
    >
    > I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    > is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    > in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    > the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    > virus.
    >
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    > getting through in the first place.
    >
    > At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    > thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    > certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    > apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    > though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    > files.
    >
    > Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    > for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.
    >
    > John
    Wizard, Dec 10, 2003
    #7
  8. Paul J. Veres, Dec 10, 2003
    #8
  9. DeMoN LaG wrote:
    > Calvin Crumrine <> wrote in news:vtcqubf42bg027
    > @corp.supernews.com:
    >
    >
    >>The best spam blocker I've found is Netscape 7 aka Mozilla 1 (don't
    >>remember the exact point release they're up to now). But it doesn't
    >>prevent it from reaching your inbox, it just moves/deletes (your choice)
    >>it automatically as it comes in.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Have you tried the newer Mozilla builds that have the bayesian (however
    > it's spelled) filter, that learns what spam is by what you tell it? There
    > are a few other freeware and commercial programs with the same bayesian
    > filter logic around, I like that my email client can learn what spam is
    > from me, instead of telling me what spam is for me.
    >

    The versions with the Bayesian filter are what I was talking about. It
    works very well, but has some trouble if you receive a variety of email.
    For example, I receive mostly text email so any HTML messages, or
    messages with graphics, that I receive have a high probability of being
    spam. But there are a few services I subscribe to that send me HTML
    email with graphics. Occasionally those are incorrectly marked as spam.
    Calvin Crumrine, Dec 10, 2003
    #9
  10. John

    Joe Guest

    John, I can tell you by far the best one I have found is called. Checkit 86, there's a small fee for it. I believe it's $19.95. It's made by Smith Micro Software Inc http://www.smithmicro.com/. I've tried a few of them and this one's for me.

    Joe


    "John" <> wrote in message news:...
    Hello.

    I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    available?

    I've tried a couple of the freeware ones like SpamPal, and they just
    don't seem to be doing the job even if I add details to the blacklist.

    What I'm looking for is something that will prevent any Spam or
    viruses from even reaching my inbox. Something that will just block
    it, or even something that will automatically send a report on the
    origin of the spam/virus to the provider of where it came from, or
    update the details in the central database for the anti-spam program.

    Just recently I keep getting sent a couple of similar email. One from
    Microsoft Internet Security Center saying "Current Security Upgrade"
    and another just from Admin saying undeliverable message! Both
    contain a worm virus with various names and ending in extension dot
    ZL9.

    I am currently just running the freeware AVG anti-virus program which
    is up-to-date, it doesn't seem to do anything when the virus arrives
    in my inbox which is rather worrying but if I forward the message to
    the ISP of wherever it originated it says that it has cleaned the
    virus.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated on how I can block these from
    getting through in the first place.

    At the moment my email program is OE version 6 I believe. I always
    thought there was an option in this not to download messages over a
    certain size, but when I checked the only option is to break them
    apart over a certain size. I'm not so sure that's the best solution
    though because sometime you might need to receive legitimate larger
    files.

    Anyway thanks for any help on this. I think it's probably time to pay
    for this service if that's what it takes to get the job done.

    John
    Joe, Dec 10, 2003
    #10
  11. John

    Oleg Afonin Guest

    Our company just released Anti-Spam Filter 1.1:
    www.spamliquidator.com. It's worth a try. The system is based on a
    collaborative spam-tracking database, which uses the signatures of
    spam messages. Basically, it filters as spam whatever all ASF users
    contributed as spam.

    --
    Oleg

    John <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Hello.
    >
    > I just wondered what you consider to be the best Spam Blocker/reporter
    > available?
    Oleg Afonin, Dec 11, 2003
    #11
  12. John

    John Guest


    >I can definitely vouch for the efficacy of bayesean filters. I haven't had
    >to reclassify a false positive or false negative in months, with PoPfile (a
    >free bayesean filter). It has so effectively learned what is good and what
    >is bad, that I pretty much never have to worry about spam.



    Thor.

    This bayesean stuff sounds good. How would I be able to utilise this?
    Is there any program you'd recommend freeware or otherwise?

    Thanks

    John
    John, Dec 12, 2003
    #12
  13. John

    Thor Guest

    This is what I use:

    http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

    Once installed, follow the setup instructions online for whatever email
    client you use.


    "John" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > >I can definitely vouch for the efficacy of bayesean filters. I haven't

    had
    > >to reclassify a false positive or false negative in months, with PoPfile

    (a
    > >free bayesean filter). It has so effectively learned what is good and

    what
    > >is bad, that I pretty much never have to worry about spam.

    >
    >
    > Thor.
    >
    > This bayesean stuff sounds good. How would I be able to utilise this?
    > Is there any program you'd recommend freeware or otherwise?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    Thor, Dec 12, 2003
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