Are there heat issues with pentium d 820?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by risc, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. risc

    risc Guest

    I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so cannot
    consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core 2 and the x2
    respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware guide I can see that the
    pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms of the type of performance
    I want, far better than the price equivalent amd cpu but what worries me is
    all the stuff i have heard about heat problems with the intel chips, despite
    the hours i have spent so far trying to find out about this i am really none
    the wiser, I get the impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher
    clock speeds that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the
    pentium d cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no
    real issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability, throttling
    down because of heat.

    Anyhow after spending much time trying to clarify this issue with my own
    searches I am now hoping I can get some good advice here because my own
    searches have been of little help, so if anyone has any good or bad
    practical experience with the pentium d 820 I would really appreciate
    hearing about it. By the way my current cpu is an ancient pentium3 500, so
    that has been my last experience with cpu's etc... so this is why I need
    some advice from people with more recent experience.
    risc, Feb 12, 2007
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  2. risc

    ~misfit~ Guest

    risc wrote:
    > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware
    > guide I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in
    > terms of the type of performance I want, far better than the price
    > equivalent amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard
    > about heat problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have
    > spent so far trying to find out about this i am really none the
    > wiser, I get the impression that it was more the standard p4's of
    > higher clock speeds that were the problem, an archive search of
    > nz.comp on the pentium d cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I
    > assume there were no real issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I
    > understand that it ran hotter than the amd's but as long as it did
    > not have problems with overheating with standard cooling solutions
    > etc..., instability, throttling down because of heat.
    >
    > Anyhow after spending much time trying to clarify this issue with my
    > own searches I am now hoping I can get some good advice here because
    > my own searches have been of little help, so if anyone has any good
    > or bad practical experience with the pentium d 820 I would really
    > appreciate hearing about it. By the way my current cpu is an ancient
    > pentium3 500, so that has been my last experience with cpu's etc...
    > so this is why I need some advice from people with more recent
    > experience.


    Honestly, there don't seem to be anywhere as many hardware folks here as
    there used to be. Also, of the few there are, some (like me) haven't had
    much recent experience. The group seems to be an extended Windows/Linux
    discussion group of late and doesn't have anywhere near the attraction for
    me that it once had.

    May I suggest that you ask in alt.comp.hardware.overclocking and prefacing
    it with OT? (Or searching Google's archives for that group)

    Those guys have lots of knowledge about the heat output of different CPUs so
    would be able to tell you how it runs stock.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.
    ~misfit~, Feb 13, 2007
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  3. risc

    risc Guest

    "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > risc wrote:
    > > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware
    > > guide I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in
    > > terms of the type of performance I want, far better than the price
    > > equivalent amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard
    > > about heat problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have
    > > spent so far trying to find out about this i am really none the
    > > wiser, I get the impression that it was more the standard p4's of
    > > higher clock speeds that were the problem, an archive search of
    > > nz.comp on the pentium d cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I
    > > assume there were no real issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I
    > > understand that it ran hotter than the amd's but as long as it did
    > > not have problems with overheating with standard cooling solutions
    > > etc..., instability, throttling down because of heat.
    > >
    > > Anyhow after spending much time trying to clarify this issue with my
    > > own searches I am now hoping I can get some good advice here because
    > > my own searches have been of little help, so if anyone has any good
    > > or bad practical experience with the pentium d 820 I would really
    > > appreciate hearing about it. By the way my current cpu is an ancient
    > > pentium3 500, so that has been my last experience with cpu's etc...
    > > so this is why I need some advice from people with more recent
    > > experience.

    >
    > Honestly, there don't seem to be anywhere as many hardware folks here as
    > there used to be. Also, of the few there are, some (like me) haven't had
    > much recent experience. The group seems to be an extended Windows/Linux
    > discussion group of late and doesn't have anywhere near the attraction for
    > me that it once had.
    >
    > May I suggest that you ask in alt.comp.hardware.overclocking and prefacing
    > it with OT? (Or searching Google's archives for that group)
    >
    > Those guys have lots of knowledge about the heat output of different CPUs

    so
    > would be able to tell you how it runs stock.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > --
    > Shaun.
    >


    Thanks I had tried google archives without much success so I will try asking
    in the group you suggested, thanks.
    risc, Feb 13, 2007
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  4. risc

    ~misfit~ Guest

    risc wrote:
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    > news:...



    [snip]

    > > Honestly, there don't seem to be anywhere as many hardware folks
    > > here as there used to be. Also, of the few there are, some (like
    > > me) haven't had much recent experience. The group seems to be an
    > > extended Windows/Linux discussion group of late and doesn't have
    > > anywhere near the attraction for me that it once had.
    > >
    > > May I suggest that you ask in alt.comp.hardware.overclocking and
    > > prefacing it with OT? (Or searching Google's archives for that
    > > group)
    > >
    > > Those guys have lots of knowledge about the heat output of
    > > different CPUs so would be able to tell you how it runs stock.
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > > --
    > > Shaun.
    > >

    >
    > Thanks I had tried google archives without much success so I will try
    > asking in the group you suggested, thanks.


    You're welcome. I see you have one reply already. You *will* need a case fan
    in my opinion. At least one. This basically goes without saying with any PC
    that uses a 7,200rpm HDD anyway, they pump out a bit of heat by themselves.

    Luck with your build.
    --
    Shaun.
    ~misfit~, Feb 13, 2007
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  5. risc

    MarkH Guest

    "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::

    > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware guide
    > I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms of
    > the type of performance I want, far better than the price equivalent
    > amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard about heat
    > problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have spent so far
    > trying to find out about this i am really none the wiser, I get the
    > impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher clock speeds
    > that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the pentium d
    > cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no real
    > issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    > hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    > overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability,
    > throttling down because of heat.


    The Intel Pentium D820 CPU is from their "Winter Warmer" line. Running at
    2.8GHz x 2 cores it will generate plenty of heat. If it were me I would
    wait for the new Core2Duo CPUs with the cheaper models getting boosted to
    4MB cache for about the same price.

    All non-Core2Duo Intel CPUs (except laptop CPUs) are well known for
    generating heat. The Core2Duo CPUs generate less heat than the AMD CPUs.


    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 23-Nov-06)
    "The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
    young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
    for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
    Maskerade
    MarkH, Feb 14, 2007
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  6. risc

    risc Guest

    "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    news:E_wAh.233551$...
    > "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::
    >
    > > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware guide
    > > I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms of
    > > the type of performance I want, far better than the price equivalent
    > > amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard about heat
    > > problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have spent so far
    > > trying to find out about this i am really none the wiser, I get the
    > > impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher clock speeds
    > > that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the pentium d
    > > cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no real
    > > issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    > > hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    > > overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability,
    > > throttling down because of heat.

    >
    > The Intel Pentium D820 CPU is from their "Winter Warmer" line. Running at
    > 2.8GHz x 2 cores it will generate plenty of heat. If it were me I would
    > wait for the new Core2Duo CPUs with the cheaper models getting boosted to
    > 4MB cache for about the same price.
    >
    > All non-Core2Duo Intel CPUs (except laptop CPUs) are well known for
    > generating heat. The Core2Duo CPUs generate less heat than the AMD CPUs.
    >


    Thanks a lot for that but when i ask about heat i am not asking about heat
    for heats sake I am only worried about whether it causes a problem i.e all I
    want to know is can the cpu run under full load for extended periods without
    overheating or throttling down to prevent overheating,
    risc, Feb 14, 2007
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  7. risc

    risc Guest

    "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    news:E_wAh.233551$...
    > "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::
    >
    > > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware guide
    > > I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms of
    > > the type of performance I want, far better than the price equivalent
    > > amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard about heat
    > > problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have spent so far
    > > trying to find out about this i am really none the wiser, I get the
    > > impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher clock speeds
    > > that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the pentium d
    > > cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no real
    > > issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    > > hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    > > overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability,
    > > throttling down because of heat.

    >
    > The Intel Pentium D820 CPU is from their "Winter Warmer" line. Running at
    > 2.8GHz x 2 cores it will generate plenty of heat. If it were me I would
    > wait for the new Core2Duo CPUs with the cheaper models getting boosted to
    > 4MB cache for about the same price.
    >
    > All non-Core2Duo Intel CPUs (except laptop CPUs) are well known for
    > generating heat. The Core2Duo CPUs generate less heat than the AMD CPUs.
    >



    I would have thought it would be quite a long wait before the core2duo is at
    the price a pentium d 820 is now, obviously i would love one of these new
    chips but surely they must be sometime off at this price.
    risc, Feb 14, 2007
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  8. risc

    The Biker Guest

    "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in message news:...
    >
    > "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    > news:E_wAh.233551$...
    >> "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::
    >>
    >> > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    >> > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    >> > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware guide
    >> > I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms of
    >> > the type of performance I want, far better than the price equivalent
    >> > amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard about heat
    >> > problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have spent so far
    >> > trying to find out about this i am really none the wiser, I get the
    >> > impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher clock speeds
    >> > that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the pentium d
    >> > cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no real
    >> > issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    >> > hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    >> > overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability,
    >> > throttling down because of heat.

    >>
    >> The Intel Pentium D820 CPU is from their "Winter Warmer" line. Running
    >> at
    >> 2.8GHz x 2 cores it will generate plenty of heat. If it were me I would
    >> wait for the new Core2Duo CPUs with the cheaper models getting boosted to
    >> 4MB cache for about the same price.
    >>
    >> All non-Core2Duo Intel CPUs (except laptop CPUs) are well known for
    >> generating heat. The Core2Duo CPUs generate less heat than the AMD CPUs.
    >>

    >
    >
    > I would have thought it would be quite a long wait before the core2duo is
    > at
    > the price a pentium d 820 is now, obviously i would love one of these new
    > chips but surely they must be sometime off at this price.
    >



    >They are only slightly more expensive, look here

    http://pchome.com.au/qld/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=8baa991577a8a09644a2770322c5f358
    The Biker, Feb 14, 2007
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    risc Guest

    "The Biker" <> wrote in message
    news:45d37257$...
    >
    > "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in message news:...
    > >
    > > "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    > > news:E_wAh.233551$...
    > >> "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::
    > >>
    > >> > I am looking to build a new machine on a low tight budget and so
    > >> > cannot consider either of the new cpu's from intel & amd i.e the core
    > >> > 2 and the x2 respectively. Using the cpu charts on toms hardware

    guide
    > >> > I can see that the pentium d 820 is by far the best choice in terms

    of
    > >> > the type of performance I want, far better than the price equivalent
    > >> > amd cpu but what worries me is all the stuff i have heard about heat
    > >> > problems with the intel chips, despite the hours i have spent so far
    > >> > trying to find out about this i am really none the wiser, I get the
    > >> > impression that it was more the standard p4's of higher clock speeds
    > >> > that were the problem, an archive search of nz.comp on the pentium d
    > >> > cpu and heat turned up zero hits so can I assume there were no real
    > >> > issues with this cpu in regards to heat, I understand that it ran
    > >> > hotter than the amd's but as long as it did not have problems with
    > >> > overheating with standard cooling solutions etc..., instability,
    > >> > throttling down because of heat.
    > >>
    > >> The Intel Pentium D820 CPU is from their "Winter Warmer" line. Running
    > >> at
    > >> 2.8GHz x 2 cores it will generate plenty of heat. If it were me I

    would
    > >> wait for the new Core2Duo CPUs with the cheaper models getting boosted

    to
    > >> 4MB cache for about the same price.
    > >>
    > >> All non-Core2Duo Intel CPUs (except laptop CPUs) are well known for
    > >> generating heat. The Core2Duo CPUs generate less heat than the AMD

    CPUs.
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > I would have thought it would be quite a long wait before the core2duo

    is
    > > at
    > > the price a pentium d 820 is now, obviously i would love one of these

    new
    > > chips but surely they must be sometime off at this price.
    > >

    >
    >
    > >They are only slightly more expensive, look here

    >

    http://pchome.com.au/qld/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=8baa991577a8a09644a2770322c5f358
    >


    I don't call at least a third of the cost again only slightly more
    expensive, the d820 can be had for NZ $180 inc gst.
    risc, Feb 14, 2007
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  10. risc

    MarkH Guest

    "risc" <risc@cisc> wrote in news::

    >
    > "The Biker" <> wrote in message
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >> >They are only slightly more expensive, look here

    >>

    > http://pchome.com.au/qld/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=8baa991577a8a09644a2
    > 770322c5f358
    >>

    >
    > I don't call at least a third of the cost again only slightly more
    > expensive, the d820 can be had for NZ $180 inc gst.


    If you were buying a system that cost $900 and it would cost an extra $90 for
    a Core2Duo instead of a D820 then that is only 10% dearer for the system. I
    personally think that would be totally worth it for the cooler running and
    considerably faster performance.

    If you wait a couple of months you may find that the Core2Duo has dropped to
    a similar price to what the D820 costs today. The non-Core2Duo CPUs are all
    out of production and all new Intel CPUs are Core2Duo based. The 6300 and
    6400 will be replaced with the 6320 and 6420 which will be the same speed but
    with cache increased to 4MB. There will be new CPUs coming in for entry
    level (I think E4200, E4300 and E4400) which will all be based on the
    Core2Duo but slower FSB and clock speed.

    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 23-Nov-06)
    "The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
    young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
    for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
    Maskerade
    MarkH, Feb 17, 2007
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