Any Virus programs with free Updates..

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Greg House, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. Greg House

    Greg House Guest

    Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees, are there any that do not
    charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
     
    Greg House, Oct 4, 2007
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  2. Greg House

    thingy Guest

    Greg House wrote:
    >
    >
    > Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees, are there any that do not
    > charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >
    >


    Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    and find some independent rags review....

    regards

    Thing
     
    thingy, Oct 4, 2007
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  3. Greg House

    Diogenes Guest

    Re: Any Virus programs with free Updates..

    On Oct 4, 1:39 pm, thingy <> wrote:
    > Greg House wrote:
    >
    > > Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees, are there any that do not
    > > charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..

    >
    > Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    > and find some independent rags review....
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing


    The latest issue of one of the Aussie PC Mags gives a very good rating
    to a freebie. "Better than Norton's" or something along these lines.
    Compares about a dozen or so.
     
    Diogenes, Oct 4, 2007
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  4. Greg House

    Puddle Guest

    thingy wrote:
    > Greg House wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >> fees, are there any that do not
    >> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    > and find some independent rags review....
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing


    Yeah I agree there are a coupel of good free ones. I use Avsst which
    has a free edition, you do have to register but it seems to do the job
    for me.
     
    Puddle, Oct 4, 2007
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  5. Greg House

    thingy Guest

    Puddle wrote:
    > thingy wrote:
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are
    >> good....try and find some independent rags review....
    >>
    >> regards
    >>
    >> Thing

    >
    > Yeah I agree there are a coupel of good free ones. I use Avsst which
    > has a free edition, you do have to register but it seems to do the job
    > for me.


    Me too (Avsst free), on the desktop anyway....for the email server I run
    clamav milter'd into sendmail, catches viruses AND phishing....

    regards

    Thing
     
    thingy, Oct 4, 2007
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  6. Greg House

    thingy Guest

    Re: Any Virus programs with free Updates..

    Diogenes wrote:
    > On Oct 4, 1:39 pm, thingy <> wrote:
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees, are there any that do not
    >>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..

    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >> and find some independent rags review....
    >>
    >> regards
    >>
    >> Thing

    >
    > The latest issue of one of the Aussie PC Mags gives a very good rating
    > to a freebie. "Better than Norton's" or something along these lines.
    > Compares about a dozen or so.
    >


    heh....no one likes Symantec....looks like we are about to throw it out
    and go to Sophos....yippee its been a dog for years....

    regards

    thing
     
    thingy, Oct 4, 2007
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  7. Greg House

    XPD Guest

    "thingy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Greg House wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >> are there any that do not
    >> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    > and find some independent rags review....
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing


    Latest PC Authority has reviews of all the popular virus scanners..... AVG
    was one of the top, and that has 2 year updates IIRC instead of the usual
    yearly.
     
    XPD, Oct 4, 2007
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  8. Greg House

    Rob S Guest

    thingy wrote:
    > Greg House wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >> fees, are there any that do not
    >> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    > and find some independent rags review....
    >
    >

    No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    would never trust them again.
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    Rob S, Oct 4, 2007
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  9. Greg House

    Greg House Guest

    On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:32:08 +1200, "XPD" <> wrote:

    >
    >"thingy" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >>> are there any that do not
    >>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >> and find some independent rags review....
    >>
    >> regards
    >>
    >> Thing

    >
    >Latest PC Authority has reviews of all the popular virus scanners..... AVG
    >was one of the top, and that has 2 year updates IIRC instead of the usual
    >yearly.
    >




    I have used AGV many times and found it totally useless when compared to Kaspersky.
     
    Greg House, Oct 4, 2007
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  10. Greg House

    Greg House Guest

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:

    >thingy wrote:
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >> and find some independent rags review....
    >>
    >>

    >No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >would never trust them again.




    Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for version, you have to reinstall it
    every time..

    AVG is not so good and has missed many viruses that I found with Kaspersky, but I will give Avast a
    try..



    These are Facts that I have found and can be confirmed in many forums.
     
    Greg House, Oct 4, 2007
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  11. Greg House

    Cima Guest

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:06:00 +1300, Greg House
    < wrote:

    >On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:32:08 +1200, "XPD" <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"thingy" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >>>> are there any that do not
    >>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>
    >>> regards
    >>>
    >>> Thing

    >>
    >>Latest PC Authority has reviews of all the popular virus scanners..... AVG
    >>was one of the top, and that has 2 year updates IIRC instead of the usual
    >>yearly.
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >I have used AGV many times and found it totally useless when compared to Kaspersky.
    >


    So stick with Kaspersky then.
     
    Cima, Oct 4, 2007
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  12. Re: Any virus programs with free updates..

    In message <>, thingy wrote:

    > Greg House wrote:
    >>
    >> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >> are there any that do not charge this, forget free ones as they are
    >> generally no good..

    >
    > Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    > and find some independent rags review....


    How about ClamAV. Never heard of a system running ClamAV ever getting
    infected with a virus. :)
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Oct 4, 2007
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  13. Greg House

    XPD Guest

    "Greg House" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:32:08 +1200, "XPD" <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"thingy" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>> fees,
    >>>> are there any that do not
    >>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>
    >>> regards
    >>>
    >>> Thing

    >>
    >>Latest PC Authority has reviews of all the popular virus scanners.....
    >>AVG
    >>was one of the top, and that has 2 year updates IIRC instead of the usual
    >>yearly.
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > I have used AGV many times and found it totally useless when compared to
    > Kaspersky.


    Stick with Kaspersky then... thats what Im running atm. It was one of the
    highest rated.
     
    XPD, Oct 4, 2007
    #13
  14. Greg House

    Bruce Knox Guest

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:11:56 +1300, Greg House
    < wrote:

    >On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:
    >
    >>thingy wrote:
    >>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>
    >>>

    >>No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >>decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >>free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >>has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >>would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >>while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >>would never trust them again.

    >
    >
    >
    >Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for version, you have to reinstall it
    >every time..
    >
    >AVG is not so good and has missed many viruses that I found with Kaspersky, but I will give Avast a
    >try..
    >
    >
    >
    >These are Facts that I have found and can be confirmed in many forums.
    >
    >

    Check this site I posted earlier.
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/
    You will see that none of them come close to detecting everything so
    whatever you choose something can always get through. You will also
    see that at least Avast rates quite well.

    Bruce http://www.baggins.co.nz
    http://physio.otago.ac.nz
     
    Bruce Knox, Oct 4, 2007
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  15. Greg House

    Greg House Guest

    Re: Any virus programs with free updates..

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:41:21 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <_zealand> wrote:

    >In message <>, thingy wrote:
    >
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >>> are there any that do not charge this, forget free ones as they are
    >>> generally no good..

    >>
    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >> and find some independent rags review....

    >
    >How about ClamAV. Never heard of a system running ClamAV ever getting
    >infected with a virus. :)




    Coming from you this must be Lunix crap..?
     
    Greg House, Oct 4, 2007
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  16. Greg House

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Greg House" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:
    >
    >>thingy wrote:
    >>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>
    >>>

    >>No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >>decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >>free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >>has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >>would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >>while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >>would never trust them again.

    >
    >
    >
    > Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for version,
    > you have to reinstall it
    > every time..


    Bullshit.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Oct 4, 2007
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  17. Greg House

    Greg House Guest

    On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:54:56 +1300, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (*sling)> wrote:

    >
    >"Greg House" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:
    >>
    >>>thingy wrote:
    >>>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >>>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >>>decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >>>free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >>>has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >>>would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >>>while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >>>would never trust them again.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for version,
    >> you have to reinstall it
    >> every time..

    >
    >Bullshit.
    >
    >E. Scrooge
    >




    No it dose not, I have used it and its listed on there web site, go have a read and then apologize.
     
    Greg House, Oct 4, 2007
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  18. Greg House

    Tony in Oz Guest

    "Greg House" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:54:56 +1300, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
    > (*sling)> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Greg House" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>thingy wrote:
    >>>>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>>>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>>>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are
    >>>>> good....try
    >>>>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >>>>decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >>>>free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >>>>has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >>>>would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >>>>while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >>>>would never trust them again.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for
    >>> version,
    >>> you have to reinstall it
    >>> every time..

    >>
    >>Bullshit.
    >>
    >>E. Scrooge
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > No it dose not, I have used it and its listed on there web site, go have a
    > read and then apologize.
    >
    >

    Woger, you are the worlds biggest wanker, go and crawl back under your rock,
    come back when you can.... ummm..... on second thoughts, don't bother
    coming back.
     
    Tony in Oz, Oct 4, 2007
    #18
  19. Greg House

    Rob S Guest

    Tony in Oz wrote:
    > "Greg House" <> wrote in message
    > news:eek:...
    >> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:54:56 +1300, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
    >> (*sling)> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Greg House" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:24 +1300, Rob S <here@home> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> thingy wrote:
    >>>>>> Greg House wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update
    >>>>>>> fees, are there any that do not
    >>>>>>> charge this, forget free ones as they are generally no good..
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are
    >>>>>> good....try
    >>>>>> and find some independent rags review....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> No point trying to convince Woger that something is good once he's
    >>>>> decided otherwise. AVG, Avira Antivir and Avast all work well, are all
    >>>>> free and I have installed them on many machines, and as long as the user
    >>>>> has kept up to date with virus defs, they have had no virii, but Woger
    >>>>> would have seen a post somewhere by some idiot who has gotten a virus
    >>>>> while using one of the free editions, usually through stupidity, and he
    >>>>> would never trust them again.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Avira Antivir does not have updated unless you get the paid for
    >>>> version,
    >>>> you have to reinstall it
    >>>> every time..
    >>> Bullshit.
    >>>
    >>> E. Scrooge
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> No it dose not, I have used it and its listed on there web site, go have a
    >> read and then apologize.
    >>
    >>

    > Woger, you are the worlds biggest wanker, go and crawl back under your rock,
    > come back when you can.... ummm..... on second thoughts, don't bother
    > coming back.
    >
    >

    You really are an abusive fuckwit Roger, and I do not take kindly to
    being called a liar. Avira Antivir free version updates automatically
    every day at whatever time you set. While it is updating it opens an
    annoying popup window prompting you to buy the retail version. Are you
    saying I'm lying when I say I have sat here and watched it update on
    many occasions? Go shove your head back up your arse, shit for brains.

    --

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    Rob S, Oct 4, 2007
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  20. Greg House

    Ross Guest

    Re: Any virus programs with free updates..

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:41:21 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <_zealand> wrote:

    >In message <>, thingy wrote:
    >
    >> Greg House wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Yes from what I can see they bleed you dry with the yearly update fees,
    >>> are there any that do not charge this, forget free ones as they are
    >>> generally no good..

    >>
    >> Nothing like a vague dismissal....some of the free ones are good....try
    >> and find some independent rags review....

    >
    >How about ClamAV. Never heard of a system running ClamAV ever getting
    >infected with a virus. :)


    Last I heard ClamAV doesn't do anything until you manually tell it to
    scan something. So a person would have to unpack and scan all program
    downloads before installing, patching or updating programs. You would
    also have to expand compressed executables and scan them.

    I prefer one that scans everything automatically as it loads.
    So I use Antivir on Windows 98 (it still gets signature updates
    automatically). And I use Avast free on XP. I hear AVG is better than
    it was a few years ago too.
     
    Ross, Oct 4, 2007
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