Any issues installing NT on current hardware?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Kev, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Kev

    Kev Guest

    Just wondering if NT4 WS will install (and run!) smoothly(-ish) on say an Athlon
    2000+ or better? I know there's some problems with Win95, but would like to know
    before this place upgrades several workstations (and no, an upgrade to XP pro
    isn't po$$ible).

    TIA
    Kev, Oct 7, 2003
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  2. Kev

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Kev" wrote
    > Just wondering if NT4 WS will install (and run!) smoothly(-ish) on say an

    Athlon
    > 2000+ or better? I know there's some problems with Win95, but would like

    to know
    > before this place upgrades several workstations (and no, an upgrade to XP

    pro
    > isn't po$$ible).


    It seems to run ok on my machine... Dual booting NT and 2k.
    T.N.O., Oct 7, 2003
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  3. Kev

    R-Slicks Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:01:20 +1300, Kev <> wrote:

    >Just wondering if NT4 WS will install (and run!) smoothly(-ish) on say an Athlon
    >2000+ or better? I know there's some problems with Win95, but would like to know
    >before this place upgrades several workstations (and no, an upgrade to XP pro
    >isn't po$$ible).
    >
    >TIA
    >


    No clear answer to this. We have seen some install ok on new boxes and
    others give all kinds of hassles. Pretty much a try and see kind of
    thing. At work we don't recommend it though, unless there's a very
    good reason (and there often is, believe it or not !)


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    R-Slicks, Oct 7, 2003
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  4. NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using Microsoft
    Virtual PC 2004
    www.microsoft.com/virtualpc
    Nathan Mercer, Oct 7, 2003
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  5. Kev

    EAgle Guest

    "Nathan Mercer" <nathan@4757979!!!SPAMSUCKS****mcs.co.nz> wrote in message
    news:ebtgb.170458$...
    > NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    > Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    Microsoft
    > Virtual PC 2004
    > www.microsoft.com/virtualpc
    >
    >

    He implied the problem with getting XP was money $$$$ so this is not a
    solution now is it ?
    anyway if he had XP there would be no need for NT?
    EAgle, Oct 7, 2003
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  6. "EAgle" <> wrote in message
    news:bltqa2$3hp$...
    > > NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    > > Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    > Microsoft
    > > Virtual PC 2004
    > > www.microsoft.com/virtualpc
    > >
    > >

    > He implied the problem with getting XP was money $$$$ so this is not a
    > solution now is it ?


    Neither is a solution that doesn't work. NT4 might not work on the old
    hardware.

    > anyway if he had XP there would be no need for NT?


    Thats a conclusion that I don't jump to. They might be many reasons why
    someone would want to run NT4, maybe he has an important application that
    only runs on NT4.
    My suggestion will work fine thanks.
    Nathan Mercer, Oct 7, 2003
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  7. Kev

    Chris Guest

    Nathan Mercer wrote:

    > Neither is a solution that doesn't work.


    Obviously Nathan didn't pass high school English. :)

    Chris.
    Chris, Oct 7, 2003
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  8. Kev

    The Flash Guest

    By using the Application Compatibility Toolkit you have more chance of
    running applications ontop of XP than on either 2000 or NT4.

    I am repeatedly surprised how well really old apps run on xp, any issues
    seem to be processor speed related and not OS related once you select the
    right shims between application and OS.

    Running NT4 is a bad option now days, no support from MS and its very dated,
    If budget is tight get a copy of XP Home it will do almost anything you need
    and it is a currant os so drivers / pnp work correctly.


    "Nathan Mercer" <nathan@4757979!!!SPAMSUCKS****mcs.co.nz> wrote in message
    news:Y7ugb.170503$...
    > "EAgle" <> wrote in message
    > news:bltqa2$3hp$...
    > > > NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend

    running
    > > > Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    > > Microsoft
    > > > Virtual PC 2004
    > > > www.microsoft.com/virtualpc
    > > >
    > > >

    > > He implied the problem with getting XP was money $$$$ so this is not a
    > > solution now is it ?

    >
    > Neither is a solution that doesn't work. NT4 might not work on the old
    > hardware.
    >
    > > anyway if he had XP there would be no need for NT?

    >
    > Thats a conclusion that I don't jump to. They might be many reasons why
    > someone would want to run NT4, maybe he has an important application that
    > only runs on NT4.
    > My suggestion will work fine thanks.
    >
    >
    The Flash, Oct 7, 2003
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  9. Kev

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Nathan Mercer" wrote
    > NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    > Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    Microsoft
    > Virtual PC 2004
    > www.microsoft.com/virtualpc



    Or VMware... Nathan, Companies aside, are either MS/Connectix Virtual PC or
    VMware better? and why?
    T.N.O., Oct 7, 2003
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  10. Kev

    T.N.O. Guest

    "EAgle" wrote
    > anyway if he had XP there would be no need for NT?


    not so, we have software at work that will not run correctly on 2k or XP, so
    we still have a couple of NT boxes sitting around, only a couple out of
    ~1400, so not too bad.
    T.N.O., Oct 7, 2003
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  11. T.N.O. wrote:
    > "Nathan Mercer" wrote
    >
    >>NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    >>Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    >
    > Microsoft
    >
    >>Virtual PC 2004
    >>www.microsoft.com/virtualpc

    >
    >
    >
    > Or VMware... Nathan, Companies aside, are either MS/Connectix Virtual PC or
    > VMware better? and why?


    VPC supports more operating systems... but I think is less optimised in
    some respects. Given the purpose of such a tool, I think the "more OSes"
    feature is more important, but YMMV.

    Problem with VPC is you can't actually buy it now.

    Aaron
    Aaron Lawrence, Oct 8, 2003
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  12. Kev

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Aaron Lawrence" wrote
    > VPC supports more operating systems... but I think is less optimised in
    > some respects. Given the purpose of such a tool, I think the "more OSes"
    > feature is more important, but YMMV.


    Hmm, really... who'd've thunk it, a MS product with More OS support than a
    competitor :)
    I've used VMware with Linux(a couple of recent distros{from 99-03}), Solaris
    x86, all Windows flavours(including PE and CEx86), and it is really quite
    cool, I have recently played with VMware GSX Server too, and it is even
    better than Workstation(individual IP's for each virtual machine).

    > Problem with VPC is you can't actually buy it now.


    You can, just not the MS version, you gotta get the *old* Connectix version.
    T.N.O., Oct 8, 2003
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  13. Kev

    R-Slicks Guest

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:24:55 +1300, "The Flash"
    <> wrote:

    <snipped>

    >If budget is tight get a copy of XP Home it will do almost anything you need
    >and it is a currant os so drivers / pnp work correctly.


    Except join a domain (amongst other things)
    Which is one of the things most of our NT4 customers require as they
    already have domain-based networks...


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  14. Kev

    R-Slicks Guest

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:32:01 +1300, "T.N.O." <> wrote:

    >"Nathan Mercer" wrote
    >> NT4 does have issues with some new hardware. I would recommend running
    >> Windows XP and then run your NT4 OS inside a Virtual Machine using

    >Microsoft
    >> Virtual PC 2004
    >> www.microsoft.com/virtualpc

    >
    >
    >Or VMware... Nathan, Companies aside, are either MS/Connectix Virtual PC or
    >VMware better? and why?


    Haven't played with VPC (yet. Oi MS where's my beta copy you promised
    me ??)
    I have to admit, I *do* like VMWare though...

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  15. Thus spake T.N.O.:
    > You can, just not the MS version, you gotta get the *old* Connectix version.


    But can you? When last I looked they were not going to sell that either
    (other than stock already in channels). You could download a demo only.

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    Aaron Lawrence, Oct 8, 2003
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  16. Kev

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Aaron Lawrence" wrote
    > > You can, just not the MS version, you gotta get the *old* Connectix

    version.

    > But can you? When last I looked they were not going to sell that either
    > (other than stock already in channels). You could download a demo only.


    errr, well yeah, the company no longer exists, of course the only copys that
    are available from already in the channels.
    And the new version doesn't get released until late Q4 2003
    T.N.O., Oct 8, 2003
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