AKAMAI Technologies?

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by Patrick Sullivan, May 6, 2005.

  1. Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.
    Firewall, eStop, antivirus, HOSTS file, nothing stops it!

    running ie6, w2k svrc pac 4 with all security updates, Zonealarm firewall,
    avg antivirus, antispyware programs, etc. Is this some FBI or Microsoft spy
    program?
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 6, 2005
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  2. From: "Patrick Sullivan" <>

    | Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    | connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.
    | Firewall, eStop, antivirus, HOSTS file, nothing stops it!
    |
    | running ie6, w2k svrc pac 4 with all security updates, Zonealarm firewall,
    | avg antivirus, antispyware programs, etc. Is this some FBI or Microsoft spy
    | program?
    |

    No its a third party server system used by many reputable companies.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
     
    David H. Lipman, May 6, 2005
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  3. "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote:

    > Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    > connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.


    Did you install something that automatically updates?

    Akamai isn't a spyware company, they're a giant webhoster, specialised
    in load-balanced hosting for companies so that you can ever download
    files at the best possible speed.

    They're quite often used as a download place for automatic updates, for
    example for antivirus-software.

    Juergen Nieveler
    --
    Push to test... Release to detonate.
     
    Juergen Nieveler, May 6, 2005
    #3
  4. Well, I use avg and zonealarm, with aoutoupdate, but even with those
    temporarily turned off, I still get the connnections. I have no file sharing
    programs installed. When I am not browsing or emailing, chatting etc, I like
    to see no downloading activity going on. It all began when a friend asked me
    to look on the local public bus system's website for maps and scheduling
    info last week. Want the URL so you can get infected? :)

    Thanks for the info, now I still don't like the idea.

    "Juergen Nieveler" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote:
    >
    > > Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    > > connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.

    >
    > Did you install something that automatically updates?
    >
    > Akamai isn't a spyware company, they're a giant webhoster, specialised
    > in load-balanced hosting for companies so that you can ever download
    > files at the best possible speed.
    >
    > They're quite often used as a download place for automatic updates, for
    > example for antivirus-software.
    >
    > Juergen Nieveler
    > --
    > Push to test... Release to detonate.
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 6, 2005
    #4
  5. From: "Patrick Sullivan" <>

    | Well, I use avg and zonealarm, with aoutoupdate, but even with those
    | temporarily turned off, I still get the connnections. I have no file sharing
    | programs installed. When I am not browsing or emailing, chatting etc, I like
    | to see no downloading activity going on. It all began when a friend asked me
    | to look on the local public bus system's website for maps and scheduling
    | info last week. Want the URL so you can get infected? :)
    |
    | Thanks for the info, now I still don't like the idea.

    I just downloaded the Trend Micro Pattern File 615 and it downloaded via an Akamai
    Technologies web server.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
     
    David H. Lipman, May 6, 2005
    #5
  6. Patrick Sullivan

    Jim Watt Guest

    On Fri, 6 May 2005 13:19:52 -0500, "Patrick Sullivan"
    <> wrote:

    >Thanks for the info, now I still don't like the idea.


    If we had a FAQ Akamai would be one of the topics as its
    often raised; why not ask them what their purpose is?

    I got a very detailed reply, and basically what they do is
    host content for other peoples websites to speed up
    delivery.

    If you are in Belgium and access a site in Australia, Akamai
    deliver the large stuff from a server local to you to cut down
    delays and make better use of the Internet. The content may
    be large files, or adverts.

    Its a business model that works. The general view is also
    that it is harmless and useful.
    --
    Jim Watt
    http://www.gibnet.com
     
    Jim Watt, May 6, 2005
    #6
  7. Patrick Sullivan

    Guest Guest

    "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    > connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.
    > Firewall, eStop, antivirus, HOSTS file, nothing stops it!
    >
    > running ie6, w2k svrc pac 4 with all security updates, Zonealarm
    > firewall,
    > avg antivirus, antispyware programs, etc. Is this some FBI or
    > Microsoft spy
    > program?
    >
    >
    >



    Is Automatic Updates service enabled? Is Windows configured to
    automatically check for updates (and perhaps download them)? Akamai is
    used by Microsoft to provide world-wide load-balancing for all Windows
    users.

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    Guest, May 7, 2005
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  8. Yes, checking for updates is enabled, but not installing without permission.
    I was downloading/installing updates from Windows Update when I noticed it,
    I believe. But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want
    MS or anyone else using it for load balancing. I wonder if I can find
    anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.
    patrick

    <Vanguard> wrote in message news:...
    > "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Does anyone know how to stop the deploy.akamaitechnologies.com TCP
    > > connection permanently? It pops up and hogs bandwidth and I hate it.
    > > Firewall, eStop, antivirus, HOSTS file, nothing stops it!
    > >
    > > running ie6, w2k svrc pac 4 with all security updates, Zonealarm
    > > firewall,
    > > avg antivirus, antispyware programs, etc. Is this some FBI or
    > > Microsoft spy
    > > program?
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    > Is Automatic Updates service enabled? Is Windows configured to
    > automatically check for updates (and perhaps download them)? Akamai is
    > used by Microsoft to provide world-wide load-balancing for all Windows
    > users.
    >
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    Patrick Sullivan, May 9, 2005
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  9. From: "Patrick Sullivan" <>

    | Yes, checking for updates is enabled, but not installing without permission.
    | I was downloading/installing updates from Windows Update when I noticed it,
    | I believe. But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want
    | MS or anyone else using it for load balancing. I wonder if I can find
    | anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.
    | patrick

    You just don't get it !

    Load Balancing has nothing to do with YOUR PC. It has to do with a distribution service
    (FTP or HTTP).
    Think about it....
    How do you allow millions of customers (clients) to download MegaBytes of data ?

    By Load Balancing the servers through a 3rd party hosting company such as Akamai Tech.

    It isn't going to be in the Registry. Akamai isn't software residing on your computer. It
    is Domain Name resolution redirection to the load-balanced site.

    For example;
    ping -a www.trendmicro.com

    Pinging a151.g.akamai.net [130.81.64.50] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
    Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 130.81.64.50:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms

    Notice that although I requested a PING on the Domain "trendmicro.com", it returned a host
    at the Domain "akamai.net".

    It is that simple.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
     
    David H. Lipman, May 9, 2005
    #9
  10. Patrick Sullivan

    Guest Guest

    "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Yes, checking for updates is enabled, but not installing without
    > permission.
    > I was downloading/installing updates from Windows Update when I
    > noticed it,
    > I believe.


    Well, your choice to download the update files (but not to install
    them). I prefer to simply notify me that there are updates and then
    decide to download them.


    > But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want
    > MS or anyone else using it for load balancing.


    You are Akamai? No one said your computer was behaving as a server in
    regard to Windows updates. You are a *client* that has asked to
    *download* the updates so, yes, you have configured your Windows to
    connect the and download those files. Since Microsoft uses Akamai to
    provide global load-balancing of updates, it is likely Akamai has other
    customers so you might be using other software that also connects to
    Akamai.

    > I wonder if I can find
    > anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.


    Change the Windows Update feature to prompt you when updates are
    available (and NOT to download the updates whether you install them or
    not).
     
    Guest, May 9, 2005
    #10
  11. Patrick Sullivan

    Jim Watt Guest

    On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:16:04 -0500, "Patrick Sullivan"
    <> wrote:

    >Yes, checking for updates is enabled, but not installing without permission.
    >I was downloading/installing updates from Windows Update when I noticed it,
    >I believe. But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want
    >MS or anyone else using it for load balancing. I wonder if I can find
    >anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.
    >patrick


    You are talking nonsense.

    MS use Akamai for load balancing and have no interest in your
    machine apart from keeping it up to date with free upgrades to
    block holes in their orrible operating system.

    Windows update may be 'done' for today but there will be more
    of it to come.

    If the whole world had to rely on downloading upgrades from a
    site in Redmond it would work very slowly so Akamai do a grand
    job in spreading connectivity around.

    You will find lots of things in the registry, if you don't understand
    them, leave them alone.
    --
    Jim Watt
    http://www.gibnet.com
     
    Jim Watt, May 9, 2005
    #11
  12. Patrick Sullivan

    Ashp Guest

    Patrick Sullivan wrote:
    > Yes, checking for updates is enabled, but not installing without permission.
    > I was downloading/installing updates from Windows Update when I noticed it,
    > I believe. But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want
    > MS or anyone else using it for load balancing. I wonder if I can find
    > anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.
    > patrick


    http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/YouAre-FucktardCockMonkey.jpg

    Ash.
     
    Ashp, May 9, 2005
    #12
  13. Patrick Sullivan, May 11, 2005
    #13
  14. "Jim Watt" <_way> wrote in message
    news:p...

    > You are talking nonsense.


    I hope not.

    > MS use Akamai for load balancing and have no interest in your machine

    apart from keeping it up to date with free upgrades to block holes in their
    orrible operating system.

    Why should I trust them ("no interest in my machine")? They are a
    corporation and corporations have usually been out for their own interests,
    not mine.

    > Windows update may be 'done' for today but there will be more of it to

    come.

    Yeah, and I check the windows update site often enough. I do not even want
    all their updates, like for one, media player v9.

    > If the whole world had to rely on downloading upgrades from a site in

    Redmond it would work very slowly so Akamai do a grand job in spreading
    connectivity around.

    MS could have a server in every state in the union if they wanted. Nothing's
    keeping their whole site in WA.

    > You will find lots of things in the registry, if you don't understand

    them, leave them alone.

    Maybe I understand more than is apparent from my writing. BTW, there was no
    akamai in my registry, and the constant downloading of packets has ceased.
    But the connection is still there during, and after, updates from Zonealarm,
    AVG, and MS. I liked downloading updates as ".exe" files, the way it used to
    be.

    --
    > Jim Watt
    > http://www.gibnet.com
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 11, 2005
    #14
  15. > Well, your choice to download the update files (but not to install them).
    I prefer to simply notify me that there are updates and then decide to
    download them.

    I have even disabled hat service now, I never liked it anyway. It took so
    long to startup after booting. Accidentally pressing it also involved
    several steps to shut it down again, too.

    > > But that's done, and my machine is not a server, so I do not want > MS

    or anyone else using it for load balancing.>

    > You are Akamai? No one said your computer was behaving as a server in

    regard to Windows updates.

    But that is what it seemed like it was doing! SOMETHING was moving from my
    machine to them and vice versa, when every update service was shut entirely
    down.

    You are a *client* that has asked to *download* the updates so, yes, you
    have configured your Windows to
    > connect the and download those files. Since Microsoft uses Akamai to

    provide global load-balancing of updates, it is likely Akamai has other
    customers so you might be using other software that also connects to
    > Akamai.


    Yes, it seems they do. Whatever, I can see that whatever was happening last
    week has ceased.

    Active Connections
    Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
    TCP w2005:epmap w2005:0 LISTENING
    TCP w2005:microsoft-ds w2005:0 LISTENING
    TCP w2005:1025 w2005:0 LISTENING
    TCP w2005:1026 w2005:0 LISTENING
    TCP w2005:10110 w2005:0 LISTENING
    UDP w2005:microsoft-ds *:*
    UDP w2005:isakmp *:*

    > > I wonder if I can find
    > > anything in the registry, I am going to look in there. Thanks to all.
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 11, 2005
    #15
  16. > You just don't get it !
    > Load Balancing has nothing to do with YOUR PC. It has to do with a

    distribution service
    > (FTP or HTTP).


    There's the SETI effort, distributed computing to solve a problem, and there
    are others. There is also p2p filesharing like Napster used to do, and Kazaa
    and some others are still doing. I was distributing something over a
    connection that should have been quiet, that is why I said I was acting like
    a server for akamai. I figured at best, it was something like SETI or
    Kazaaa.

    > Think about it....
    > How do you allow millions of customers (clients) to download MegaBytes of

    data ? By Load Balancing the servers through a 3rd party hosting company
    such as Akamai Tech.

    Because MS is too lazy or poor to do that themselves?

    > It isn't going to be in the Registry. Akamai isn't software residing on

    your computer. It
    > is Domain Name resolution redirection to the load-balanced site.


    Ok, ok, I understand that. You guys just do not understand what I was
    complaining about, evidently. Megabytes of data were being exchanged with no
    update services active.

    > For example;
    > ping -a www.trendmicro.com
    >
    > Pinging a151.g.akamai.net [130.81.64.50] with 32 bytes of data:
    >
    > Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    > Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    > Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
    > Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
    >
    > Ping statistics for 130.81.64.50:
    > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    > Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms
    >
    > Notice that although I requested a PING on the Domain "trendmicro.com", it

    returned a host
    > at the Domain "akamai.net".
    >
    > It is that simple.
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
    >
    >
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 11, 2005
    #16
  17. From: "Patrick Sullivan" <>

    I suggest you get TCPVIEW from Sysinternals --
    http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/tcpview.shtml

    Then you can see what program is connecting to what site via what protocol.

    Such as...

    WGET.EXE:1192 TCP dlipman-1.verizon.net:1101 a199-45-62-28.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com:80
    ESTABLISHED

    Where the fully qualified path of WGET.EXE is...
    C:\SYSCLEAN\wget.exe

    Command Line;
    wget -t9 -w9 http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/products/pattern/lpt625.zip

    All the above was obtained using TCPVIEW and copied into this reply.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
     
    David H. Lipman, May 11, 2005
    #17
  18. Patrick Sullivan

    Guest Guest

    "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> You just don't get it !
    >> Load Balancing has nothing to do with YOUR PC. It has to do with a

    > distribution service
    >> (FTP or HTTP).

    >
    > There's the SETI effort, distributed computing to solve a problem, and
    > there
    > are others. There is also p2p filesharing like Napster used to do, and
    > Kazaa
    > and some others are still doing. I was distributing something over a
    > connection that should have been quiet, that is why I said I was
    > acting like
    > a server for akamai. I figured at best, it was something like SETI or
    > Kazaaa.
    >
    >> Think about it....
    >> How do you allow millions of customers (clients) to download
    >> MegaBytes of

    > data ? By Load Balancing the servers through a 3rd party hosting
    > company
    > such as Akamai Tech.
    >
    > Because MS is too lazy or poor to do that themselves?
    >
    >> It isn't going to be in the Registry. Akamai isn't software residing
    >> on

    > your computer. It
    >> is Domain Name resolution redirection to the load-balanced site.

    >
    > Ok, ok, I understand that. You guys just do not understand what I was
    > complaining about, evidently. Megabytes of data were being exchanged
    > with no
    > update services active.
    >
    >> For example;
    >> ping -a www.trendmicro.com
    >>
    >> Pinging a151.g.akamai.net [130.81.64.50] with 32 bytes of data:
    >>
    >> Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    >> Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
    >> Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
    >> Reply from 130.81.64.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
    >>
    >> Ping statistics for 130.81.64.50:
    >> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >> Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms
    >>
    >> Notice that although I requested a PING on the Domain
    >> "trendmicro.com", it

    > returned a host
    >> at the Domain "akamai.net".
    >>
    >> It is that simple.



    "Act as server" means you must be *sending* OUTBOUND packets for file
    transfer. Windows Update (from Akamai) using INBOUND packets to *get*
    files. There is always some outbound packets sent for the inbound
    packets for downloading a file but that traffic is small and used for
    acknowledgements. You are *downloading* the updates (from Akamai)
    similar to when you download files from a web site for drivers,
    applications, utilities, or documents. You downloading files does NOT
    make you a server. You are also, in no way, part of the load-balanced
    server network provided for the download. You are the client, not the
    server. Kazaa, BitTorrent, or other P2P schemes have nothing to do with
    Windows Update and Akamai. You are NOT redistributing any of the files
    that you receive.

    Note that you never did mention in your posts whether the bandwidth
    hogging communications were inbound or outbound. The assumption was
    made that if it was to Akamai that it was most likely to be for Windows
    Updates and that would be for INBOUND traffic. You are the client
    receiving a file download for a Windows update that Microsoft is using
    Akamai to distribute to their worldwide customer base.

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    Guest, May 11, 2005
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  19. Patrick Sullivan

    Guest Guest

    "Patrick Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> How do you allow millions of customers (clients) to download
    >> MegaBytes of

    > data ? By Load Balancing the servers through a 3rd party hosting
    > company
    > such as Akamai Tech.
    >
    > Because MS is too lazy or poor to do that themselves?



    Does Ford, Subaru, Plymouth, Honda, or any car maker actually
    manufacture the tires that they put on their cars? Do they actually
    mine, transport, and process the ore to product the metal that they use
    in their cars? Do they drill, extract, transport, and process the oil
    to produce the plastics that they use in their car? Why spend money to
    do something for which you don't have the expertise and can be done much
    more cheaply using an existing service that shares its cost amongst many
    customers? You really think Microsoft, or any business that wants to
    remain in business, takes the most expensive route to a solution? When
    was the last time your doorbell rang and a Microsoft representative hand
    delivered a CD that contained the latest updates for your instance of
    Windows?
     
    Guest, May 11, 2005
    #19
  20. Thanks, David, I believe I have that tcpview from over a year ago, but
    forgot about it. I use some other sysinternals programs often enough,
    entirely forgot about that one.

    patrick

    "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
    news:hypge.11300$nX1.10277@trnddc09...
    > From: "Patrick Sullivan" <>
    >
    > I suggest you get TCPVIEW from Sysinternals --
    > http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/tcpview.shtml
    >
    > Then you can see what program is connecting to what site via what

    protocol.
    >
    > Such as...
    >
    > WGET.EXE:1192 TCP dlipman-1.verizon.net:1101

    a199-45-62-28.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com:80
    > ESTABLISHED
    >
    > Where the fully qualified path of WGET.EXE is...
    > C:\SYSCLEAN\wget.exe
    >
    > Command Line;
    > wget -t9 -w9 http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/products/pattern/lpt625.zip
    >
    > All the above was obtained using TCPVIEW and copied into this reply.
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
    >
    >
     
    Patrick Sullivan, May 11, 2005
    #20
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