AIM "privacy" issue

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by Clay Denski, Nov 9, 2004.

  1. Clay Denski

    Clay Denski Guest

    I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    "Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.

    Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?

    Help!
    Clay Denski, Nov 9, 2004
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  2. Clay Denski

    nemo outis Guest

    In article <>, (Clay Denski) wrote:
    >I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    >messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    >others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    >computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    >but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    >"Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    >those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    >whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    >problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    >away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.
    >
    >Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?
    >
    >Help!



    There may be many solutions to your problem, but let me suggest
    one "brute force" one.

    Go into your network connections and "disable" it before walking
    away from you desk and re-"enable" it when you return.

    FWIW I have had good success with this method to prevent any
    number of squealing programs from "phoning home" when I was
    doing something I preferred not to call attention to.

    Regards,
    nemo outis, Nov 10, 2004
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  3. Clay Denski

    Leythos Guest

    In article <C6fkd.170317$%k.40267@pd7tw2no>, nemo
    (nemo outis) says...
    > >Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?


    I use Yahoo and it lets me setup if I want users to know what I'm doing
    - if I'm on-line or not. Just disable where it tells users that you are
    on-line.

    And why do you care if the Boss, or anyone, knows if you are not at your
    desk - don't you work for them? Don't they supervise you? Do you spend
    too much time away from your desk that you are concerned they might know
    about it?

    Don't make so much out of it - I know companies that require the call
    center people to enter codes for talking on the phone for support,
    taking a break, going to the bathroom, talking with another support
    person and being unable to access a phone, etc.... be glad that you
    method is automated.

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    Leythos, Nov 10, 2004
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  4. Clay Denski

    donnie Guest

    On 9 Nov 2004 15:37:37 -0800, (Clay Denski)
    wrote:

    >I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    >messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    >others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    >computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    >but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    >"Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    >those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    >whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    >problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    >away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.
    >
    >Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?
    >
    >Help!

    ######################
    I never used it but look into Trillian.
    donnie.
    donnie, Nov 10, 2004
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  5. Clay Denski

    donnie Guest

    On 9 Nov 2004 15:37:37 -0800, (Clay Denski)
    wrote:

    >I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    >messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    >others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    >computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    >but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    >"Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    >those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    >whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    >problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    >away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.
    >
    >Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?
    >
    >Help!

    #######################
    Something just occured to me. Could your boss have placed a script on
    your machine to notify him? Are you the only person to whom that is
    happening?
    donnie
    donnie, Nov 10, 2004
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  6. Clay Denski

    nemo outis Guest

    In article
    <>, Leythos
    <> wrote:
    ...sniip...
    >Don't make so much out of it - I know companies that require the call
    >center people to enter codes for talking on the phone for support,
    >taking a break, going to the bathroom, talking with another support
    >person and being unable to access a phone, etc.... be glad that you
    >method is automated.
    >



    Do such companies pay for their employees getting facial barcode
    tatoos or do the employees have to pay for them out of their own
    pockets?

    Regards,

    PS Do you just report on corporate fascism or are you an
    active advocate for it?
    nemo outis, Nov 10, 2004
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  7. "donnie" <> wrote in message

    > Something just occured to me. Could your boss have placed a script on
    > your machine to notify him? Are you the only person to whom that is
    > happening?
    > donnie


    If his boss had installed a scipt like that on his computer, why would his
    boss then let him know about it? At least, that's the way I read his
    original post.

    This will simply be a 'feature' of the program that the programmers couldn't
    imagine anybody wanting to disable.

    I would hardly call this a _privacy_ issue. Have you ever seen those
    magnetic whiteboards where a little coloured marker shows whether you're in
    the office or not and when you'll be back? This is very similar and isn't
    exactly very invasive.
    Timothy Goddard, Nov 10, 2004
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  8. Clay Denski

    Leythos Guest

    In article <bEfkd.168392$nl.135211@pd7tw3no>, nemo
    (nemo outis) says...
    > In article
    > <>, Leythos
    > <> wrote:
    > ..sniip...
    > >Don't make so much out of it - I know companies that require the call
    > >center people to enter codes for talking on the phone for support,
    > >taking a break, going to the bathroom, talking with another support
    > >person and being unable to access a phone, etc.... be glad that you
    > >method is automated.
    > >

    >
    >
    > Do such companies pay for their employees getting facial barcode
    > tatoos or do the employees have to pay for them out of their own
    > pockets?


    I think they inject a small microchip under the neck-skin, like they do
    dogs, to track them around the building (and through K-Mart scanners) :)

    > PS Do you just report on corporate fascism or are you an
    > active advocate for it?


    I just know a chap the works for a place that requires it, and the OP's
    post reminded me of it, that was all.

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    Leythos, Nov 10, 2004
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  9. Clay Denski

    Mike Guest

    nemo outis wrote:

    > PS Do you just report on corporate fascism or are you an
    > active advocate for it?


    Bollocks! If you were paying someone to do a job, you'd be prety pissed
    if they spent a inordinate amount of time doing something else.


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    blacklisted,
    submitted to anti-spam sites and proably burn in hell.
    Mike, Nov 10, 2004
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  10. Clay Denski

    Pete Guest

    On 9 Nov 2004 15:37:37 -0800, (Clay Denski) wrote:

    >I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    >messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    >others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    >computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    >but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    >"Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    >those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    >whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    >problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    >away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.


    That is no 'privacy problem' at all. You're at work. Just say 'brb', lock
    your computer, and be done with it.


    >Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?
    >
    >Help!


    ICQ.

    Regards,

    Pete.
    Pete, Nov 10, 2004
    #10
  11. Clay Denski

    xborg Guest

    Gaim, lets you set the away and idle states, its compatible with AIM, MSN,
    Yahoo, and others.
    "Clay Denski" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have a question for those of you who use AIM (Aol instant
    > messenger). I use it at work, for work. My boss uses it too, as do
    > others. PRoblem is, whenever I get up to use the bathroom, I lock my
    > computer (ctrl-alt-del then lock) so nobody gets in and plays pranks,
    > but when I do that, AIM pops up on my bosses computer the message
    > "Clay is Away". He doesn't have his messenger set up to NOT show
    > those notifications. When I get back from using the bathroom, or
    > whatever, it sends out another popup. This seems to me a privacy
    > problem. Locking my keyboard should NOT force a broadcast of "I'm
    > away". Yet there is no setting I can find in AIM to turn that off.
    >
    > Is there another IM I should use that would still be AIM compatible?
    >
    > Help!
    xborg, Nov 10, 2004
    #11
  12. nemo (nemo outis) wrote:

    > There may be many solutions to your problem, but let me suggest
    > one "brute force" one.
    >
    > Go into your network connections and "disable" it before walking
    > away from you desk and re-"enable" it when you return.


    That would only create pop-ups "$FOO is logged out" and "$FOO is logged
    in"


    Juergen Nieveler
    --
    Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid.
    Juergen Nieveler, Nov 10, 2004
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