A selfish dead libertarian

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by grumpyoldhori, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Jesus christ, a libertarian who was against universal health care
    and could not be bothered with insurance.
    But he is selfish enough to leave his family with a bill for
    US $400,000.
    God you libertarians have some sick ideas, like the one that says
    why should I pay for universal health care if i never use it.

    Must mention that to my lad who is with the volunteers, why bother
    helping people with that attitude if they believe in doing **** all
    for society.
    If any of you libertarians go to the states and get sick without
    insurance have some balls, refuse medical care.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-kall/libertarian-legacy-ron-pa_b_111079.html

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    grumpyoldhori, Jul 7, 2008
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  2. grumpyoldhori

    Enkidu Guest

    Allistar wrote:
    > grumpyoldhori wrote:
    >
    >> Jesus christ, a libertarian who was against universal health care
    >> and could not be bothered with insurance. But he is selfish enough
    >> to leave his family with a bill for US $400,000. God you
    >> libertarians have some sick ideas, like the one that says why
    >> should I pay for universal health care if i never use it.

    >
    > "You libertarians.."? You mean the one guy you mention? How do you go
    > from something one person did to boldly asserting that all
    > libertarians must be like minded?
    >

    Duh! If they weren't like-minded they wouldn't be Libertarians, would they?
    >
    > That's prejudiced to the highest degree.
    >

    No. It's logical. ACTions all think the same, Winston Firsters venerate
    Winston, Nats all worship the dollar and all socialists believe in
    helping those worse off than themselves (that should get a knee-jerk out
    of JohnB).
    >
    > The guy probably had brown eyes too - do you now think that all brown
    > eyed people must be the same?
    >

    That's not the same thing at all.
    >
    >> Must mention that to my lad who is with the volunteers, why bother
    >> helping people with that attitude if they believe in doing **** all
    >> for society.

    >
    > Why do you think that libertarians means "doing **** all for
    > society"? It means no such thing.
    >

    Because they believe in selfishness as a philosophy.

    Cheers,

    Cliff

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    Enkidu, Jul 8, 2008
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  3. In article <>,
    says...
    > > Why do you think that libertarians means "doing **** all for
    > > society"? It means no such thing.
    > >

    > Because they believe in selfishness as a philosophy.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff


    What I find particulary amusing is that somebody has set up a
    website for donations so the family doesn't have to pay the 400
    grand he left owing - so they who didn't want to pay for
    others, now want others to pay for them. Isn't that typical!
    The most shortsighted, egotistical, greedy bunch of
    irresponsible wingnuts ...

    -P.

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    Peter Huebner, Jul 8, 2008
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  4. grumpyoldhori

    Enkidu Guest

    Allistar wrote:
    > Enkidu wrote:
    >
    >> Allistar wrote:
    >>> grumpyoldhori wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Jesus christ, a libertarian who was against universal health care
    >>>> and could not be bothered with insurance. But he is selfish enough
    >>>> to leave his family with a bill for US $400,000. God you
    >>>> libertarians have some sick ideas, like the one that says why
    >>>> should I pay for universal health care if i never use it.
    >>>
    >>> "You libertarians.."? You mean the one guy you mention? How do you go
    >>> from something one person did to boldly asserting that all
    >>> libertarians must be like minded?
    >>>

    >> Duh! If they weren't like-minded they wouldn't be Libertarians, would
    >> they?

    >
    > That would make sense if you were referring to anarchists, but not to
    > libertarians.
    >

    Why would it be true about anarchists (who live next door to the LibZ)
    and not to LibZ?
    >
    >>> That's prejudiced to the highest degree.
    >>>

    >> No. It's logical. ACTions all think the same, Winston Firsters venerate
    >> Winston, Nats all worship the dollar and all socialists believe in
    >> helping those worse off than themselves (that should get a knee-jerk out
    >> of JohnB).

    >
    > Sarcasm noted.
    >
    >>> The guy probably had brown eyes too - do you now think that all brown
    >>> eyed people must be the same?
    >>>

    >> That's not the same thing at all.

    >
    > Tarring everyone with the same brush is, by definition, prejudiced.
    >

    Sure, but a group of people who have the same aims and philosophy have
    to be like-minded.
    >
    >>>> Must mention that to my lad who is with the volunteers, why bother
    >>>> helping people with that attitude if they believe in doing **** all
    >>>> for society.
    >>> Why do you think that libertarians means "doing **** all for
    >>> society"? It means no such thing.
    >>>

    >> Because they believe in selfishness as a philosophy.

    >
    > No they don't. What makes you think that?
    >

    They do, but redefine it as "enlightened or rational self interest".
    It's in their creed.

    Cheers,

    Cliff

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    Have you ever noticed that if something is advertised as 'amusing' or
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    Enkidu, Jul 8, 2008
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  5. OT _ Re: A selfish dead libertarian

    In article <>, ChrisOD <> wrote:
    >On 2008-07-08, Allistar <> wrote:
    >> Enkidu wrote:
    >>> Allistar wrote:
    >>>> grumpyoldhori wrote:


    ... a bunch of OT stuff.

    Guys, do we want this group as well to go that way ? :)
     
    Bruce Sinclair, Jul 9, 2008
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  6. grumpyoldhori

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarweb "Allistar" typed:
    > Peter Huebner wrote:
    >
    >> In article <>,
    >> says...
    >>>> Why do you think that libertarians means "doing **** all for
    >>>> society"? It means no such thing.
    >>>>
    >>> Because they believe in selfishness as a philosophy.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers,
    >>>
    >>> Cliff

    >>
    >> What I find particulary amusing is that somebody has set up a
    >> website for donations so the family doesn't have to pay the 400
    >> grand he left owing - so they who didn't want to pay for
    >> others, now want others to pay for them. Isn't that typical!

    >
    > Helping someone out by way of donation is quite different to forcing
    > someone to help out by getting the government to confiscate their
    > money from them.
    >
    >> The most shortsighted, egotistical, greedy bunch of
    >> irresponsible wingnuts ...

    >
    > The couple mentioned in the original story? Yes, you are right. All
    > libertarians by default? No, absolutely not. What is a "wingnut" in
    > this context anyway?


    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wingnut
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    ~misfit~, Jul 9, 2008
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  7. Re: OT _ Re: A selfish dead libertarian

    In article <>, "I LOVE IT!" <> wrote:
    >Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <>, ChrisOD
    >> <> wrote:
    >>> On 2008-07-08, Allistar <> wrote:
    >>>> Enkidu wrote:
    >>>>> Allistar wrote:
    >>>>>> grumpyoldhori wrote:

    >>
    >> .. a bunch of OT stuff.
    >>
    >> Guys, do we want this group as well to go that way ? :)

    >
    >Blame Grumpy Old Hori, the drunken sod.
    >
    >He started this thread in here.


    I'm not blaming anyone. Just don't do it :)
     
    Bruce Sinclair, Jul 9, 2008
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  8. Re: OT _ Re: A selfish dead libertarian

    In article <>, "I LOVE IT!" <> wrote:
    >Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <>, "I
    >> LOVE
    >> IT!" <> wrote:
    >>> Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >>>> In article <>, ChrisOD
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>> On 2008-07-08, Allistar <> wrote:
    >>>>>> Enkidu wrote:
    >>>>>>> Allistar wrote:
    >>>>>>>> grumpyoldhori wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> .. a bunch of OT stuff.
    >>>>
    >>>> Guys, do we want this group as well to go that way ? :)
    >>> Blame Grumpy Old Hori, the drunken sod.
    >>> He started this thread in here.

    >>
    >> I'm not blaming anyone. Just don't do it :)

    >Sounds like you are telling *me* what to do. :)


    <sigh> One choice is clever and one isn't. Your choice :)
     
    Bruce Sinclair, Jul 10, 2008
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