A sad day....

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Go Bless The Free World, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. Least we forget what happen 5 years ago today, for today, as always, our
    hearts go out to those who have suffered lose at the hands of these faceless
    cowards who wish to destroy our great nation and the free world as a whole.
    Let us pray for our Men and Women who are this very day fighting for the
    freedom of not just our great nation, but the freedom of Mankind.

    May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory confined to
    annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of past like National
    Socialism & Communism.

    God bless America and the free world!
     
    Go Bless The Free World, Sep 11, 2006
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    Neil Guest

    did you hear "Go Bless The Free World" <>
    say in news::

    > May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory
    > confined to annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of
    > past like National Socialism & Communism.


    <sarcasm>
    Yeah, that's not the slightest bit inflamitory.
    </sarcasm>

    far too many innocent people of all races and religions perished 5 years
    ago to have simplistic solutions applied to a far more complex problem.
    This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with terrorism. So
    long as governments and religious leaders (of any kind) promote or even
    condone terrorism as a means to an end, they are to be condemned.

    It's 8:44 here, if you will excuse me I have memories to hold...

    --
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    - Those aren't potholes, they are speed bumps.
     
    Neil, Sep 11, 2006
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    kpg Guest

    As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

    >> May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory
    >> confined to annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of
    >> past like National Socialism & Communism.

    >
    > <sarcasm>
    > Yeah, that's not the slightest bit inflamitory.
    > </sarcasm>
    >
    > far too many innocent people of all races and religions perished 5
    > years ago to have simplistic solutions applied to a far more complex
    > problem. This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with
    > terrorism. So long as governments and religious leaders (of any kind)
    > promote or even condone terrorism as a means to an end, they are to be
    > condemned.



    Just what I would expect from a Canadian.


    kp "common sense...who needs it" g
     
    kpg, Sep 11, 2006
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    Neil Guest

    did you hear kpg <> say in
    news:Xns983B5223F45F8ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

    > Just what I would expect from a Canadian.
    >
    >
    > kp "common sense...who needs it" g


    so, you are admitting we are more apt to have a little common sense then?
    That's Fantastic kpg! The first step is admitting you have a problem. Now
    if we could only convince you to vote that way...

    Thoughts and prayers to all who new someone who passed in 9/11

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    - Editing is a rewording activity.
     
    Neil, Sep 11, 2006
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    Jtyc Guest

    > This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with terrorism.

    I would say it's a problem with their culture. And unfortunately, I don't
    believe the West has the fortitude to handle them.
     
    Jtyc, Sep 11, 2006
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  6. =?Utf-8?B?T1RITUFO?=, Sep 11, 2006
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  7. Let's start at the top:

    GBTFW made a stupid comment at the outset ("...when Islam is but a cursed
    memory confined to annals of history") which prompted Neil to say that it is
    terrorism and not Islam that is the problem.

    I do not think that Islam is the problem, but I do think that the problem is
    if not confined to Muslims then it is certainly a lot more commonplace there
    than it is in the rest of society. The problem of terrorism - not all
    terrorism but let's be honest most of it - is mostly a muslim problem which
    is not to say that most muslims are terrorists but frankly that most
    terrorists are muslim and before anyone brings up Oklahoma City or the
    Atlanta Olympics or Northern Ireland please reread that I did say MOST. I
    would further put forward that almost all international terrorism since the
    mid-eighties has been confined to radical islamic terrorists. It is the
    reason I think that racial profiling may be discriminatory but it certainly
    is a good idea. I have never heard of a passenger on an airplane worried
    about anyone who looks Jewish or Christian blowing themselves up. I cannot
    remember the last time a Budhist hijacked and airplane and... well, did
    anything at all with it.

    KPG retorted with a comment about the Canadian viewpoint and I will say
    this: as a Canadian I do think that a good part of our people do want to
    solve too many problems with words when action is required. As the
    flag-draped coffins of our soldiers come off planes from Afghanistan I think
    it is apparent that our attitudes are changine and I think that is a good
    thing. At the same time I think that too many Americans feel that the right
    course of action when wronged is to invade, and it does not matter who. Al
    Qaeda attacked the US so let's invade Iraq. North Korea is posturing and
    puffing it's chest?.... let's invade Iraq.

    I had dinner last week with a cousin from Florida and when the topic came up
    he spent twenty minutes talking out of his ass, and proving to me that
    Americans vote for the wrong person for the wrong reason. A quote: "Of
    course we had to go into Iraq! Iraq attacked Israel, and since Israel is our
    ally it was our obligation to defend them." Aside from every fact (other
    than American military presence in Iraq) in his quote is wrong, it goes to
    show that a lot of Americans just do not understand the facts on the ground.
    (For the record: I supported America's invasion of Iraq. I do not support
    its continued presence there, and no I do not have a solution to that
    clusterflck.)

    Anyhow I have taken way too much time out of my work day on this topic. I
    bow my head in remembrance of the fallen, and will now try to get back to
    work.

    --
    MDG, MCT
    ....wondering what this all has to do with certifications.

    "kpg" wrote:

    > As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
    >
    > >> May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory
    > >> confined to annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of
    > >> past like National Socialism & Communism.

    > >
    > > <sarcasm>
    > > Yeah, that's not the slightest bit inflamitory.
    > > </sarcasm>
    > >
    > > far too many innocent people of all races and religions perished 5
    > > years ago to have simplistic solutions applied to a far more complex
    > > problem. This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with
    > > terrorism. So long as governments and religious leaders (of any kind)
    > > promote or even condone terrorism as a means to an end, they are to be
    > > condemned.

    >
    >
    > Just what I would expect from a Canadian.
    >
    >
    > kp "common sense...who needs it" g
    >
    >
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNU?=, Sep 11, 2006
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  8. The western way of life is alien to islamic ideology, make no mistake it is
    a threat to our way of life.

    Does that make *all* muslims bad people? No it dose not, the same way it
    does make *all* Germans brought up during the time of National Socialism bad
    people.

    "Montreal MCT" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Let's start at the top:
    >
    > GBTFW made a stupid comment at the outset ("...when Islam is but a cursed
    > memory confined to annals of history") which prompted Neil to say that it
    > is
    > terrorism and not Islam that is the problem.
    >
    > I do not think that Islam is the problem, but I do think that the problem
    > is
    > if not confined to Muslims then it is certainly a lot more commonplace
    > there
    > than it is in the rest of society. The problem of terrorism - not all
    > terrorism but let's be honest most of it - is mostly a muslim problem
    > which
    > is not to say that most muslims are terrorists but frankly that most
    > terrorists are muslim and before anyone brings up Oklahoma City or the
    > Atlanta Olympics or Northern Ireland please reread that I did say MOST. I
    > would further put forward that almost all international terrorism since
    > the
    > mid-eighties has been confined to radical islamic terrorists. It is the
    > reason I think that racial profiling may be discriminatory but it
    > certainly
    > is a good idea. I have never heard of a passenger on an airplane worried
    > about anyone who looks Jewish or Christian blowing themselves up. I
    > cannot
    > remember the last time a Budhist hijacked and airplane and... well, did
    > anything at all with it.
    >
    > KPG retorted with a comment about the Canadian viewpoint and I will say
    > this: as a Canadian I do think that a good part of our people do want to
    > solve too many problems with words when action is required. As the
    > flag-draped coffins of our soldiers come off planes from Afghanistan I
    > think
    > it is apparent that our attitudes are changine and I think that is a good
    > thing. At the same time I think that too many Americans feel that the
    > right
    > course of action when wronged is to invade, and it does not matter who.
    > Al
    > Qaeda attacked the US so let's invade Iraq. North Korea is posturing and
    > puffing it's chest?.... let's invade Iraq.
    >
    > I had dinner last week with a cousin from Florida and when the topic came
    > up
    > he spent twenty minutes talking out of his ass, and proving to me that
    > Americans vote for the wrong person for the wrong reason. A quote: "Of
    > course we had to go into Iraq! Iraq attacked Israel, and since Israel is
    > our
    > ally it was our obligation to defend them." Aside from every fact (other
    > than American military presence in Iraq) in his quote is wrong, it goes to
    > show that a lot of Americans just do not understand the facts on the
    > ground.
    > (For the record: I supported America's invasion of Iraq. I do not support
    > its continued presence there, and no I do not have a solution to that
    > clusterflck.)
    >
    > Anyhow I have taken way too much time out of my work day on this topic. I
    > bow my head in remembrance of the fallen, and will now try to get back to
    > work.
    >
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > ...wondering what this all has to do with certifications.
    >
    > "kpg" wrote:
    >
    >> As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
    >>
    >> >> May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory
    >> >> confined to annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of
    >> >> past like National Socialism & Communism.
    >> >
    >> > <sarcasm>
    >> > Yeah, that's not the slightest bit inflamitory.
    >> > </sarcasm>
    >> >
    >> > far too many innocent people of all races and religions perished 5
    >> > years ago to have simplistic solutions applied to a far more complex
    >> > problem. This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with
    >> > terrorism. So long as governments and religious leaders (of any kind)
    >> > promote or even condone terrorism as a means to an end, they are to be
    >> > condemned.

    >>
    >>
    >> Just what I would expect from a Canadian.
    >>
    >>
    >> kp "common sense...who needs it" g
    >>
    >>
    >>
     
    Go Bless The Free World, Sep 11, 2006
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    James Guest

    Well at least the government was able to ensure the majority of its
    important workers were not working that day, and the towers were extremley
    empty compaired to a normal day...so it could have been a lot worse!

    And I think the problem will never go away, as long as America has soldiers
    in other countries, killing inocent people, causing more people to hate
    America...these people then grow up to become terrorists, and attack the
    states. The states then goes and kills more inocent people, causing more
    people to hate the states....its an endless loop!

    "Go Bless The Free World" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Least we forget what happen 5 years ago today, for today, as always, our
    > hearts go out to those who have suffered lose at the hands of these
    > faceless cowards who wish to destroy our great nation and the free world
    > as a whole. Let us pray for our Men and Women who are this very day
    > fighting for the freedom of not just our great nation, but the freedom of
    > Mankind.
    >
    > May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory confined to
    > annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of past like
    > National Socialism & Communism.
    >
    > God bless America and the free world!
    >
     
    James, Sep 11, 2006
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  10. I agree that the western way of life is alien to islamic ideology. That does
    not mean that one will have to destroy the other. It is unfortunate that
    some (the louder) Muslim clerics misinterpret the Koran and incite violence
    and jihad. It is vital that moderate muslims speak up against them, but they
    are afraid - and for good reason.

    M
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    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    Certified Small Business Specialist
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    "Go Bless The Free World" wrote:

    > The western way of life is alien to islamic ideology, make no mistake it is
    > a threat to our way of life.
    >
    > Does that make *all* muslims bad people? No it dose not, the same way it
    > does make *all* Germans brought up during the time of National Socialism bad
    > people.
    >
    > "Montreal MCT" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Let's start at the top:
    > >
    > > GBTFW made a stupid comment at the outset ("...when Islam is but a cursed
    > > memory confined to annals of history") which prompted Neil to say that it
    > > is
    > > terrorism and not Islam that is the problem.
    > >
    > > I do not think that Islam is the problem, but I do think that the problem
    > > is
    > > if not confined to Muslims then it is certainly a lot more commonplace
    > > there
    > > than it is in the rest of society. The problem of terrorism - not all
    > > terrorism but let's be honest most of it - is mostly a muslim problem
    > > which
    > > is not to say that most muslims are terrorists but frankly that most
    > > terrorists are muslim and before anyone brings up Oklahoma City or the
    > > Atlanta Olympics or Northern Ireland please reread that I did say MOST. I
    > > would further put forward that almost all international terrorism since
    > > the
    > > mid-eighties has been confined to radical islamic terrorists. It is the
    > > reason I think that racial profiling may be discriminatory but it
    > > certainly
    > > is a good idea. I have never heard of a passenger on an airplane worried
    > > about anyone who looks Jewish or Christian blowing themselves up. I
    > > cannot
    > > remember the last time a Budhist hijacked and airplane and... well, did
    > > anything at all with it.
    > >
    > > KPG retorted with a comment about the Canadian viewpoint and I will say
    > > this: as a Canadian I do think that a good part of our people do want to
    > > solve too many problems with words when action is required. As the
    > > flag-draped coffins of our soldiers come off planes from Afghanistan I
    > > think
    > > it is apparent that our attitudes are changine and I think that is a good
    > > thing. At the same time I think that too many Americans feel that the
    > > right
    > > course of action when wronged is to invade, and it does not matter who.
    > > Al
    > > Qaeda attacked the US so let's invade Iraq. North Korea is posturing and
    > > puffing it's chest?.... let's invade Iraq.
    > >
    > > I had dinner last week with a cousin from Florida and when the topic came
    > > up
    > > he spent twenty minutes talking out of his ass, and proving to me that
    > > Americans vote for the wrong person for the wrong reason. A quote: "Of
    > > course we had to go into Iraq! Iraq attacked Israel, and since Israel is
    > > our
    > > ally it was our obligation to defend them." Aside from every fact (other
    > > than American military presence in Iraq) in his quote is wrong, it goes to
    > > show that a lot of Americans just do not understand the facts on the
    > > ground.
    > > (For the record: I supported America's invasion of Iraq. I do not support
    > > its continued presence there, and no I do not have a solution to that
    > > clusterflck.)
    > >
    > > Anyhow I have taken way too much time out of my work day on this topic. I
    > > bow my head in remembrance of the fallen, and will now try to get back to
    > > work.
    > >
    > > --
    > > MDG, MCT
    > > ...wondering what this all has to do with certifications.
    > >
    > > "kpg" wrote:
    > >
    > >> As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
    > >>
    > >> >> May we look forward to a day when Islam is but a cursed memory
    > >> >> confined to annals of history, in the same way as we look at evils of
    > >> >> past like National Socialism & Communism.
    > >> >
    > >> > <sarcasm>
    > >> > Yeah, that's not the slightest bit inflamitory.
    > >> > </sarcasm>
    > >> >
    > >> > far too many innocent people of all races and religions perished 5
    > >> > years ago to have simplistic solutions applied to a far more complex
    > >> > problem. This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with
    > >> > terrorism. So long as governments and religious leaders (of any kind)
    > >> > promote or even condone terrorism as a means to an end, they are to be
    > >> > condemned.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Just what I would expect from a Canadian.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> kp "common sense...who needs it" g
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    >
    >
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNU?=, Sep 11, 2006
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  11. Go Bless The Free World

    Neil Guest

    did you hear "Jtyc" <> say in
    news::

    >> This was not an issue with Islam, this was a problem with terrorism.

    >
    > I would say it's a problem with their culture. And unfortunately, I
    > don't believe the West has the fortitude to handle them.
    >
    >
    >


    I disagree. It may very well be a cultural issue, but it is not really
    isolated to the islamic culture. The IRA are just as guilty as hesbola.
    There is little difference in my mind between what occured on Air India
    flight 182 in 1985, and what occured at the 1983 Beirut Marine barracks. Or
    for that matter, what is going on in Darfur, or Bosnia, or what occured in
    Rowanda. Terrorism is terrorism and so long as anyone endorses murder of
    inoccents as a means to obtain there goals then we as a society have
    progressed no further than the middle ages.

    --
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    - Gun Fighting Rule: If your grip and stance are perfect, you are not using
    cover correctly.
     
    Neil, Sep 11, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    >>Did you see what James () graced us with in
    %?<<

    > And I think the problem will never go away, as long as America has
    > soldiers in other countries, killing inocent people, causing more
    > people to hate America...these people then grow up to become
    > terrorists, and attack the states. The states then goes and kills
    > more inocent people, causing more people to hate the states....its an
    > endless loop!
    >

    What is all this talk about "killing innocent people"??? Never....NOT ONCE....in
    the HISTORY of the United States Military has ANY Servicemen EVER killed an
    innocent person and not been prosecuted for it. If you can PROVE it, then please
    do.
    --
    BD
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    Guest, Sep 11, 2006
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    James Guest

    Well off the top of my head, americans have "accidently" killed serveral
    canadian soldiers, and simply got a "slap" on the wrist...And if you beleive
    that no civicials are getting hurt/killed, your smoking crack...

    <BD> wrote in message news:...
    >>>Did you see what James () graced us with in

    > %?<<
    >
    >> And I think the problem will never go away, as long as America has
    >> soldiers in other countries, killing inocent people, causing more
    >> people to hate America...these people then grow up to become
    >> terrorists, and attack the states. The states then goes and kills
    >> more inocent people, causing more people to hate the states....its an
    >> endless loop!
    >>

    > What is all this talk about "killing innocent people"??? Never....NOT
    > ONCE....in
    > the HISTORY of the United States Military has ANY Servicemen EVER killed
    > an
    > innocent person and not been prosecuted for it. If you can PROVE it, then
    > please
    > do.
    > --
    > BD
    > MCNGP #51
    > -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    > -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com
    >
    >
     
    James, Sep 11, 2006
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    Neil Guest

    did you hear "James" <> say in
    news::

    > Well off the top of my head, americans have "accidently" killed
    > serveral canadian soldiers, and simply got a "slap" on the wrist...And
    > if you beleive that no civicials are getting hurt/killed, your smoking
    > crack...


    and if you believe that only the US is guilty of freindly fire mishaps you
    are equally stoned. Speaking as a (born here) Canadian of course.

    --
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    - I believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and a Balanced Budget.
     
    Neil, Sep 11, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    >>Did you see what James () graced us with in
    ?<<
    >
    > your smoking crack...
    >

    What about my smoking crack? Damb, did I leave that thing turned on again?
    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com
     
    Guest, Sep 11, 2006
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    JaR Guest

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:17:12 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

    > I disagree. It may very well be a cultural issue, but it is not really
    > isolated to the islamic culture. The IRA are just as guilty as hesbola.
    > There is little difference in my mind between what occured on Air India
    > flight 182 in 1985, and what oc<snipped for brevity, not content>


    There should be a difference. The difference is that in the current bout
    of slaughter, the Islamic Imams, Mullahs, whatever, have declared jihad
    against the western way of life. Most specifically, Isreal and it's
    unquestioning supporter, the USA. But they will vent their ire on any
    state and it's people that is not subject to the laws of Shari-a.

    Their followers consider it an act of faith to at least support this war,
    if not actually participate in it.

    Do all Muslims want to see our blood running in trhe streets? Ghods, I
    hope not. I'd like to believe there are plenty that are as disgusted by
    terrorist acts as we.

    But do they wish to see the conversion of the world to Islam by whatever
    means possible? You bet. And the Koran tells them that damnear anything is
    justified in the furtherance of Islam. Just like our Old Testament tells
    us. Difference is; most Muslims seem to actually believe in the word of
    their God and His prophet. Most Westerners have devloped a healthy
    cynicism toward preachers that demand unpleasantness as a course of their
    devotions.

    When one hears the inevitable comparisons with acts such as Air India, the
    Olympic Park bombings, Oklahaoma City, etc, it denies the very real fact
    that there is a huge segment of the world's population that truly believes
    the planet would be a better place if the decadent west were immolated,
    and the survivors forced to convert to Islam.

    I don't support our invasion of Iraq. I thought then, and still do that it
    was a huge mistake. It's like trapping a tiger; now you've got it, what
    the fsck are you gonna do with it? If the muslim world community
    disliked the US before the invasion, they bloody well hate us now. Iraq
    is a rallying call for radical Islam like the Alamo was to our
    forefathers.

    We were so concerned about Saddam, what about that nutcase
    over in Korea? Why are we not spending those billions of dollars to secure
    our ports and borders?

    Phooey! Rant over. I seem to be very angry this time of the year. Sept 11
    will hurt for a long time to come. A sad day indeed!

    --
    JaR
    MCNGP 22
    Here there be dragons
    Remove hat to reply
     
    JaR, Sep 11, 2006
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    kpg Guest

    As Montreal MCT once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

    > I agree that the western way of life is alien to
    > islamic ideology. That does not mean that one will have to destroy
    > the other. It is unfortunate that some (the louder) Muslim clerics
    > misinterpret the Koran and incite violence and jihad. It is vital
    > that moderate muslims speak up against them, but they are afraid - and
    > for good reason.



    Exactly - but the clerics are silent (excpet when they preach jihad).

    Fear is an effective means of control. Although I tend to think it
    is doomed to failure, once way to start the process would be to have
    a free Iraq - governed by an elected body - represenative of the three
    major factions. Rule of Law - what a concept - but GW just gets
    laughed at and ridiculed. I'm still waiting for a better idea.

    Anyone?


    kpg
     
    kpg, Sep 11, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    >>Did you see what OTHMAN () graced us
    with in ?<<
    > http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4505
    >

    Ok, I'll bite.

    > Q: What experiences turned you against the war and made you leave the Marines?
    >
    > A: I was in charge of a platoon that consists of machine gunners and missile

    men. Our job was to go into certain areas of the towns
    > and secure the roadways. There was this one particular incident - and there's

    many more - the one that really pushed me over the
    > edge. It involved a car with Iraqi civilians. From all the intelligence

    reports we were getting, the cars were loaded down with suicide
    > bombs or material. That's the rhetoric we received from intelligence. They

    came upon our checkpoint. We fired some warning shots.
    > They didn't slow down. So we lit them up.
    > Q: Lit up? You mean you fired machine guns?


    > A: Right. Every car that we lit up we were expecting ammunition to go off. But

    we never heard any. Well, this particular vehicle we

    > didn't destroy completely, and one gentleman looked up at me and said: "Why

    did you kill my brother? We didn't do anything

    > wrong." That hit me like a ton of bricks.


    > Q: He spoke English?


    > A: Oh, yeah.



    First off, hind-sight is 20/20. Secondly, those Marines were there to do a job.
    They were there to protect and secure certain areas that were known targets by
    extremists. Those blocks that they set up are heavily armed and (at that point)
    had been run upon by rogue vehicles with explosives, and NUMEROUS times at that.
    They couldn't take the chance that one of them (when warned to stop, AND fired
    upon) wasn't going to explode when it reached it's destination. The drivers of
    those vehicles KNEW this, and STILL approached the blocks in a manner that
    replicated that of a suicide attack.

    It's kinda like people here in the US aiming a gun at a cop because they know
    the cop is trained to shoot. It's called "Assisted Suicide".


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    BD
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    Guest, Sep 11, 2006
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  19. Go Bless The Free World

    Guest Guest

    >>Did you see what kpg () graced us with in
    Xns983B7A7DF9B05ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1?<<
    > As Montreal MCT once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
    >
    >> I agree that the western way of life is alien to
    >> islamic ideology. That does not mean that one will have to destroy
    >> the other. It is unfortunate that some (the louder) Muslim clerics
    >> misinterpret the Koran and incite violence and jihad. It is vital
    >> that moderate muslims speak up against them, but they are afraid -
    >> and for good reason.

    >
    >
    > Exactly - but the clerics are silent (excpet when they preach jihad).
    >
    > Fear is an effective means of control. Although I tend to think it
    > is doomed to failure, once way to start the process would be to have
    > a free Iraq - governed by an elected body - represenative of the three
    > major factions. Rule of Law - what a concept - but GW just gets
    > laughed at and ridiculed. I'm still waiting for a better idea.
    >
    > Anyone?
    >
    >
    > kpg
    >

    Drop Beer Kegs!!
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    Guest, Sep 11, 2006
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