70-536 exam

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  1. hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
    as Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)?
    =?Utf-8?B?Um9tbWVs?=, Oct 20, 2006
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  2. Hi Rommel,

    70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
    dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.

    thanks,

    _howard

    Howard Dierking
    Product Planner
    Developer and Database Certifications
    Microsoft Learning

    "Rommel" wrote:

    > hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
    > as Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)?
    =?Utf-8?B?aG93YXJkIGRpZXJraW5n?=, Oct 25, 2006
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  3. Howard: If this exam grants no credential of its own, then Microsoft needs
    to update its MCP Certification Requirements webpage. That page
    (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.asp) states:

    Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one
    current Microsoft certification exam that provides a valid and reliable
    measure of technical proficiency and expertise (a current exam is any that
    has not been retired).
    ....
    Note: Exam 70-058: Networking Essentials is an exception to the one exam
    requirement. Passing this exam alone will not certify an individual as an
    MCP.

    Note the word "current". Exam 70-536 is a current exam and thus should
    count towards your MCP, right? This implies that it is also possible to be an
    MCSD in Visual Studio 6, and NOT be an MCP, as all MCSD-VS6 exams have
    retired.

    Can someone actually from Microsoft verify this?
    --
    Larry J. West, MCSD, MOUS, FLMI, ACS


    "howard dierking" wrote:

    > Hi Rommel,
    >
    > 70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
    > dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > _howard
    >
    > Howard Dierking
    > Product Planner
    > Developer and Database Certifications
    > Microsoft Learning
    >
    > "Rommel" wrote:
    >
    > > hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
    > > as Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)?
    =?Utf-8?B?TGFycnlXZXN0TUNTRA==?=, Oct 30, 2006
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  4. Hi Larry,

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We will change the language on
    the MCP requirements page to add 70-536 as an exception.

    _howard

    Howard Dierking
    Product Planner
    Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
    http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking


    "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:

    > Howard: If this exam grants no credential of its own, then Microsoft needs
    > to update its MCP Certification Requirements webpage. That page
    > (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.asp) states:
    >
    > Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one
    > current Microsoft certification exam that provides a valid and reliable
    > measure of technical proficiency and expertise (a current exam is any that
    > has not been retired).
    > ...
    > Note: Exam 70-058: Networking Essentials is an exception to the one exam
    > requirement. Passing this exam alone will not certify an individual as an
    > MCP.
    >
    > Note the word "current". Exam 70-536 is a current exam and thus should
    > count towards your MCP, right? This implies that it is also possible to be an
    > MCSD in Visual Studio 6, and NOT be an MCP, as all MCSD-VS6 exams have
    > retired.
    >
    > Can someone actually from Microsoft verify this?
    > --
    > Larry J. West, MCSD, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    >
    >
    > "howard dierking" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Rommel,
    > >
    > > 70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
    > > dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > >
    > > _howard
    > >
    > > Howard Dierking
    > > Product Planner
    > > Developer and Database Certifications
    > > Microsoft Learning
    > >
    > > "Rommel" wrote:
    > >
    > > > hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
    > > > as Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)?
    =?Utf-8?B?aG93YXJkIGRpZXJraW5n?=, Oct 30, 2006
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  5. =?Utf-8?B?Um9tbWVs?=

    Kev Guest

    When I passed the 70-536 exam last month I got the MCP certification
    welcome email and also got access to the MCP website, so you do get a
    certification for it.

    Kev

    >>
    >> "howard dierking" wrote:
    >>
    >> > Hi Rommel,
    >> >
    >> > 70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams
    >> > (web, win, dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of
    >> > its own.
    >> >
    >> > thanks,
    >> >
    >> > _howard
    Kev, Nov 2, 2006
    #5
  6. So here's where it gets a little confusing. When you pass 70-536, you
    officially get all of the MCP benefits (e.g. - access to the website, welcome
    pack, etc...) - but you are not actually awarded MCP status.

    Sorry for the confusion. We are currently working on clarifying this on the
    website.

    _howard

    Howard Dierking
    Product Planner
    Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
    http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking


    "Kev" wrote:

    > When I passed the 70-536 exam last month I got the MCP certification
    > welcome email and also got access to the MCP website, so you do get a
    > certification for it.
    >
    > Kev
    >
    > >>
    > >> "howard dierking" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Hi Rommel,
    > >> >
    > >> > 70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams
    > >> > (web, win, dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of
    > >> > its own.
    > >> >
    > >> > thanks,
    > >> >
    > >> > _howard

    >
    =?Utf-8?B?aG93YXJkIGRpZXJraW5n?=, Nov 2, 2006
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  7. =?Utf-8?B?Um9tbWVs?=

    Kev Guest

    <> wrote in
    > So here's where it gets a little confusing. When you pass 70-536, you
    > officially get all of the MCP benefits (e.g. - access to the website,
    > welcome pack, etc...) - but you are not actually awarded MCP status.
    >
    > Sorry for the confusion. We are currently working on clarifying this
    > on the website.
    >
    > _howard
    >
    > Howard Dierking
    > Product Planner
    > Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
    > http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking


    Howard
    Yes I got all the benefits, I actually thought I was an MCP at that
    time. The funny thing is, the 70-536 exam was the most difficult exam
    I've sat so far, the others have seemed easier due to not covering as
    many areas.

    Seems strange that the largest exam doesn't have any benefits on its
    own.

    --
    Kev

    MCTS: Windows Developer
    MCTS: Distributed Applications Developer
    Kev, Nov 2, 2006
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    Indu

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    Information Needed.

    Hello Kev..

    I am also planning to take the 70-536 exam.I am almost done reading the MCTS Self trainning kit..so I am planning to take the exam in next couple of weeks..
    would you please let me know the pass percentage of this exam and number of questions they ask and the time interval for this exam...

    Thank you,
    Indu.

    Indu, Nov 9, 2006
    #8
  9. I agree with Kev. (Although I am an MCP) I just took this test and thought
    that it was pretty tough compared with the VB.Net ASP.Net 1.1 test that I
    took 3 years ago. There are a lot of areas covered with this test. Also, I
    think that Microsoft needs to make this extremely clear since partners are
    working on getting employees certified based on the posted information. So
    for example, if I need an additional MCP on staff to earn points towards a
    partner level I would like to know that this test will not count towards that
    goal. We want our employees to work towards certifications that are
    beneficial to their career and to the company.

    So Howard, when you are reviewing the content please consider doing
    something to help partners understand when things are eligible and when they
    are not for MCP.

    One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD even
    counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not posted
    in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on the
    main site (partner.microsoft.com).

    Very confusing.

    "Kev" wrote:

    > <> wrote in
    > > So here's where it gets a little confusing. When you pass 70-536, you
    > > officially get all of the MCP benefits (e.g. - access to the website,
    > > welcome pack, etc...) - but you are not actually awarded MCP status.
    > >
    > > Sorry for the confusion. We are currently working on clarifying this
    > > on the website.
    > >
    > > _howard
    > >
    > > Howard Dierking
    > > Product Planner
    > > Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
    > > http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking

    >
    > Howard
    > Yes I got all the benefits, I actually thought I was an MCP at that
    > time. The funny thing is, the 70-536 exam was the most difficult exam
    > I've sat so far, the others have seemed easier due to not covering as
    > many areas.
    >
    > Seems strange that the largest exam doesn't have any benefits on its
    > own.
    >
    > --
    > Kev
    >
    > MCTS: Windows Developer
    > MCTS: Distributed Applications Developer
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHQgTG9jaw==?=, Nov 24, 2006
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  10. Does MCPD count for MCSD credentials for Certified Partners?

    "Scott Lock" <> wrote:
    >
    > One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD
    > even
    > counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not
    > posted
    > in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on
    > the
    > main site (partner.microsoft.com).


    It's funny that you mention this. I was recently tasked with:
    "Get our company up to Certified Partner Status. Gold Partner if possible."

    Some of this is easy to understand:
    - Get our products tested by MS to have the various "designed for" logos on
    them.
    - Customer References
    - Sell lots of Microsoft Software

    The area in which I'm confused is related to the MCP stuff. I can't tell how
    many MCP's I need, and how many points are given for specific things. None
    of the net new certs (.Net 2.0, Sql2k5, etc) were listed that I could find.
    I'm talking here about the general, "you need 50 points for Certified
    Partner, and 100 points for Certified Gold Partner" stuff. I'm just trying
    to figure out how best to achieve our point totals.

    I can't tell if our DBA should go get an older MCDBA, or the newer SQL 2005
    track. I can't tell if my MCPD counts towards this or not. I can't tell if I
    get bonus points for being both MCSD, MCPD:Enterprise. I can't tell if I
    should go get the MCPD:Win / Web certs for more points. Hell, I can't tell
    if our DBA should punt on the SQL cert all together and get his MCAD / MCSD
    / MCTS / MCPD.

    I general I'm hoping this gets cleared up soon. I understand we're still in
    the transistion period between Certs, and MS has alot of stuff to update,
    but it's coming up quick on a year and this needs to get cleaned up.

    --
    Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
    http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins
    Chris Mullins, Nov 24, 2006
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  11. =?Utf-8?B?Um9tbWVs?=

    Montreal MCT Guest

    Re: Does MCPD count for MCSD credentials for Certified Partners?

    I am treading into a dev group which for me is strange territory. However I
    am somewhat familiar with the Partner Program, having now helped two
    companies go Gold in the last year.

    1. You need 120 points to be a Gold Certified Partner, not 100.
    2. Unfortunately on the MCP points individuals now max out at three points
    each, ergo you can have every cert in the book and you get three points
    only.
    3. You must have two MCPs (MCTS qualifies too) to become a Certified
    Partner. For most of the specializations you may need multiple MCPs with
    senior certs (Advanced Network Infrastructure, for example, requires two
    MCSEs.)

    Good luck!

    M

    --
    Montreal MCT
    MCT, MCSA, MCDST, MCP
    President, Montreal IT Professionals Community (www.mitpro.ca)
    Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - Customer Experience
    Microsoft Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at:
    http://dnn.mitpro.ca/mitpro/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Chris Mullins" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Scott Lock" <> wrote:
    >>
    >> One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD
    >> even
    >> counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not
    >> posted
    >> in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on
    >> the
    >> main site (partner.microsoft.com).

    >
    > It's funny that you mention this. I was recently tasked with:
    > "Get our company up to Certified Partner Status. Gold Partner if
    > possible."
    >
    > Some of this is easy to understand:
    > - Get our products tested by MS to have the various "designed for" logos
    > on them.
    > - Customer References
    > - Sell lots of Microsoft Software
    >
    > The area in which I'm confused is related to the MCP stuff. I can't tell
    > how many MCP's I need, and how many points are given for specific things.
    > None of the net new certs (.Net 2.0, Sql2k5, etc) were listed that I could
    > find. I'm talking here about the general, "you need 50 points for
    > Certified Partner, and 100 points for Certified Gold Partner" stuff. I'm
    > just trying to figure out how best to achieve our point totals.
    >
    > I can't tell if our DBA should go get an older MCDBA, or the newer SQL
    > 2005 track. I can't tell if my MCPD counts towards this or not. I can't
    > tell if I get bonus points for being both MCSD, MCPD:Enterprise. I can't
    > tell if I should go get the MCPD:Win / Web certs for more points. Hell, I
    > can't tell if our DBA should punt on the SQL cert all together and get his
    > MCAD / MCSD / MCTS / MCPD.
    >
    > I general I'm hoping this gets cleared up soon. I understand we're still
    > in the transistion period between Certs, and MS has alot of stuff to
    > update, but it's coming up quick on a year and this needs to get cleaned
    > up.
    >
    > --
    > Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
    > http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins
    >
    >
    Montreal MCT, Dec 17, 2006
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    rai1manish

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    Query regarding 70-536 exam

    I have passed the 70-536 exam before 3 days but still i have not got welcome email and also not got access to the MCP website. then what i have to do further regarding this.

    Manish
    rai1manish, Sep 3, 2007
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    zakirhere

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    Appearing for MCTS 70-536

    Hi,
    I will be appearing for exam 70-536 in next 2 weeks. So any important thing to note while appearing for the exam. What's the time period of the test? Is it sufficient or need to work on timing also? Difficulty level as I am new to this (Micorsoft) technology?
    Thanks in advance.
    Bye
    zakirhere, Oct 6, 2007
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