70-305 Test Question

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  1. Tin Man

    Tin Man Guest

    This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    GAC?

    Gacutil.exe
    Windows Installer
    ngen.exe
    others are listed on the real question

    The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    ngen.exe should also be an answer.

    If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
    this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
    prone?)

    How should this question be answered in the real test?
    Thanks,
    T
     
    Tin Man, Feb 4, 2005
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  2. tin man, don't ever talk to me about the worth of practice exams and
    being able to 'memorize' things.

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:54:11 -0800, "Tin Man"
    <> wrote:

    >This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    >Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    >GAC?
    >
    >Gacutil.exe
    >Windows Installer
    >ngen.exe
    >others are listed on the real question
    >
    >The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    >ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    >installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    >ngen.exe should also be an answer.
    >
    >If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
    >this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
    >prone?)
    >
    >How should this question be answered in the real test?
    >Thanks,
    >T
    >
    >
    >



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    The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere, Feb 4, 2005
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  3. Tin Man

    Emma Burrows Guest

    "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    > Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    > GAC?
    >
    > Gacutil.exe
    > Windows Installer
    > ngen.exe
    > others are listed on the real question
    >
    > The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    > ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    > installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    > ngen.exe should also be an answer.


    I think if they were asking how to add an assembly to the native assembly
    cache as opposed to the GAC in general, they would have specified this. The
    native assembly cache is a separate part of the GAC, so unless they
    specifically mention that this is where the assembly is going, you should
    assume they mean the GAC where uncompiled assemblies go.

    The key to questions like this in these exams is to take the question as
    literally as possible. If the question doesn't mention native images, a tool
    that specialises in native images is unlikely to be the answer they're
    looking for. Really, what you need to ask yourself when faced with a
    question like this isn't "what utilities can install assemblies into the
    GAC?", but "what answer are they angling for?". Inspecting the wording of
    the question will usually help you work out what they were thinking of
    (except when it doesn't, and then you're really left scratching your head!
    :).

    HTH!


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    Emma Burrows, Feb 4, 2005
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  4. Tin Man

    G Dean Blake Guest

    Your participation in this forum may be entertainment for you but it
    dramatically lowers the value of the forum for others. Your comments are
    never informative and always intended to trivialize the original posters
    question.

    I think ngen should be one of the choices so it looks like a bad question
    (or answer? to me)
    G

    "The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
    news:...
    > tin man, don't ever talk to me about the worth of practice exams and
    > being able to 'memorize' things.
    >
    > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:54:11 -0800, "Tin Man"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    >>Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    >>GAC?
    >>
    >>Gacutil.exe
    >>Windows Installer
    >>ngen.exe
    >>others are listed on the real question
    >>
    >>The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    >>ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    >>installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    >>ngen.exe should also be an answer.
    >>
    >>If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
    >>this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
    >>prone?)
    >>
    >>How should this question be answered in the real test?
    >>Thanks,
    >>T
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
     
    G Dean Blake, Feb 4, 2005
    #4
  5. Tin Man

    Tin Man Guest

    Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test harder
    and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
    these kinds of questions.
    T

    "Emma Burrows" <> wrote in message
    news:eY6$...
    > "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    >> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    >> GAC?
    >>
    >> Gacutil.exe
    >> Windows Installer
    >> ngen.exe
    >> others are listed on the real question
    >>
    >> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    >> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    >> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    >> ngen.exe should also be an answer.

    >
    > I think if they were asking how to add an assembly to the native assembly
    > cache as opposed to the GAC in general, they would have specified this.
    > The
    > native assembly cache is a separate part of the GAC, so unless they
    > specifically mention that this is where the assembly is going, you should
    > assume they mean the GAC where uncompiled assemblies go.
    >
    > The key to questions like this in these exams is to take the question as
    > literally as possible. If the question doesn't mention native images, a
    > tool
    > that specialises in native images is unlikely to be the answer they're
    > looking for. Really, what you need to ask yourself when faced with a
    > question like this isn't "what utilities can install assemblies into the
    > GAC?", but "what answer are they angling for?". Inspecting the wording of
    > the question will usually help you work out what they were thinking of
    > (except when it doesn't, and then you're really left scratching your head!
    > :).
    >
    > HTH!
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
    > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    > Version: 6.0.840 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 19/01/2005
    >
    >
     
    Tin Man, Feb 4, 2005
    #5
  6. >always intended to trivialize the original posters
    >question.


    I could never 'trivialize the original posters question'. They do that
    for all by themselves.

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    The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere, Feb 4, 2005
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  7. Tin Man

    Emma Burrows Guest

    "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test

    harder
    > and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
    > these kinds of questions.


    It's probably not even a deliberate thing; the person writing the question
    is no doubt thinking "GACutil" and it doesn't occur to them that ngen might
    get a look in. Still, I'm hoping 140 minutes is enough time to carefully
    unpick questions like this. I'm doing the C# version of this exam next week.
    I'm confident that I know the actual subject matter, but I'm always afraid
    I'll misunderstand a question (which raises the question of how useful the
    exams are as an assessment of skills, but that's another matter entirely :).


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    Emma Burrows, Feb 4, 2005
    #7
  8. > installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC.

    The native image cache (NIC) is NOT an 'area' of the GAC. The NIC is
    completely seperate. As is the download cache. An assembly that is not in
    the GAC can have a native image in the NIC. Fusion will find the native
    image and use it even if the assembly being loaded is not in the GAC.

    So the answer from Transcender is the correct one.

    See these links for more info:
    http://pluralsight.com/blogs/craig/archive/2003/06/27/832.aspx
    http://weblogs.asp.net/mflanagan/archive/2004/04/19/115918.aspx

    Death from Above



    "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    > Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    > GAC?
    >
    > Gacutil.exe
    > Windows Installer
    > ngen.exe
    > others are listed on the real question
    >
    > The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    > ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    > installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    > ngen.exe should also be an answer.
    >
    > If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
    > this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
    > prone?)
    >
    > How should this question be answered in the real test?
    > Thanks,
    > T
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    Death from Above, Feb 5, 2005
    #8
  9. Tin Man

    G Dean Blake Guest

    type in "Native Image Cache" and docs on ngen.exe should rank #1 click on
    that and read....

    The Native Image Generator creates a native image from a managed assembly
    and installs it into the native image cache on the local computer. The
    native image cache is a reserved area of the global assembly cache.

    anyway, this is kind of a nitpick discussion but it can matter when someone
    has to answer a test question
    G



    "Death from Above" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC.

    >
    > The native image cache (NIC) is NOT an 'area' of the GAC. The NIC is
    > completely seperate. As is the download cache. An assembly that is not
    > in the GAC can have a native image in the NIC. Fusion will find the
    > native image and use it even if the assembly being loaded is not in the
    > GAC.
    >
    > So the answer from Transcender is the correct one.
    >
    > See these links for more info:
    > http://pluralsight.com/blogs/craig/archive/2003/06/27/832.aspx
    > http://weblogs.asp.net/mflanagan/archive/2004/04/19/115918.aspx
    >
    > Death from Above
    >
    >
    >
    > "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
    >> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
    >> GAC?
    >>
    >> Gacutil.exe
    >> Windows Installer
    >> ngen.exe
    >> others are listed on the real question
    >>
    >> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
    >> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
    >> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
    >> ngen.exe should also be an answer.
    >>
    >> If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer.
    >> Is this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe
    >> error prone?)
    >>
    >> How should this question be answered in the real test?
    >> Thanks,
    >> T
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    G Dean Blake, Feb 6, 2005
    #9
  10. Tin Man

    Tin Man Guest

    I took the real 70-305 on Friday and passed it. It was way easier than the
    Transcender prep tests. There were no questions I would consider trick.
    Now I'm going to rush back and take the Windows Forms test before all of
    this .net trivia runs out my ears.

    I suppose Transcender did their job by making their tests unrealistically
    difficult except that they may scare some people from taking the real test.
    T


    "Emma Burrows" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test

    > harder
    >> and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
    >> these kinds of questions.

    >
    > It's probably not even a deliberate thing; the person writing the question
    > is no doubt thinking "GACutil" and it doesn't occur to them that ngen
    > might
    > get a look in. Still, I'm hoping 140 minutes is enough time to carefully
    > unpick questions like this. I'm doing the C# version of this exam next
    > week.
    > I'm confident that I know the actual subject matter, but I'm always afraid
    > I'll misunderstand a question (which raises the question of how useful the
    > exams are as an assessment of skills, but that's another matter entirely
    > :).
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
    > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    > Version: 6.0.840 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 19/01/2005
    >
    >
     
    Tin Man, Feb 6, 2005
    #10
  11. Tin Man

    SkyDk Guest

    Below is a link to a walk-through of a real life
    situation where gacutil.exe is useful:

    http://www.15seconds.com/issue/030909.htm

    The article demonstrates how to run a COM component (MS
    SQL 2000 DTS utility) from .NET by creating an type
    library from a generated key file, then this library is
    imported into the GAC using gacutil.exe

    GAC is good for pointing many applications to a specific
    assembly.

    I've heard questions about this do actually come up.

    Hope this helps.

    :)

    >-----Original Message-----
    >This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep

    exam for 70-305:
    >Which of the following tools can be used to install an

    assembly into the
    >GAC?
    >
    >Gacutil.exe
    >Windows Installer
    >ngen.exe
    >others are listed on the real question
    >
    >The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows

    Installer. But
    >ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an

    assembly and
    >installs it into the native image cache area of the

    GAC. So I think
    >ngen.exe should also be an answer.
    >
    >If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know

    what to answer. Is
    >this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky

    (or maybe error
    >prone?)
    >
    >How should this question be answered in the real test?
    >Thanks,
    >T
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >.
    >
     
    SkyDk, Feb 16, 2005
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