70-290 Help

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  1. I'm looking for a little help for the 70-290 exam.

    I took the test yesterday (missed by 24 lousy points!) Oh well, study,
    study, study and try again.

    I got a simulator that gave me some trouble. I'm sure I'm missing one task
    (that is probablyvery simple and obvious), but here goes ....

    The forest contains 2 domains (both operating at Win 2k native mode). there
    is a 'sales' distribution group in one of the domains in AD. 3 tasks are
    requires:

    1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)
    2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)
    3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)

    any thoughts?


    --
    Peter A. Gordon
    MCP
     
    =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=, Jul 27, 2006
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  2. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=

    Cerebrus Guest

    Peter A. Gordon wrote:

    > any thoughts?


    Only that I used to think Forests contained trees.
     
    Cerebrus, Jul 27, 2006
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  3. The group is probably a global distribution group. Global groups can only
    contain users from the same domain. To include users from the second domain,
    you need to first change the scope from global to universal.

    Will

    "Peter A. Gordon" wrote:

    > I'm looking for a little help for the 70-290 exam.
    >
    > I took the test yesterday (missed by 24 lousy points!) Oh well, study,
    > study, study and try again.
    >
    > I got a simulator that gave me some trouble. I'm sure I'm missing one task
    > (that is probablyvery simple and obvious), but here goes ....
    >
    > The forest contains 2 domains (both operating at Win 2k native mode). there
    > is a 'sales' distribution group in one of the domains in AD. 3 tasks are
    > requires:
    >
    > 1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)
    > 2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)
    > 3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)
    >
    > any thoughts?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Peter A. Gordon
    > MCP
     
    =?Utf-8?B?V2lsbCBTaGVlaGFu?=, Jul 28, 2006
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  4. Will,

    Thanks, that was my first thought and exactly what I did. I still could not
    include user from the other domain. In fact, after making that mod, I
    attempted to add members to the group. The location is focused on the
    currentdomain but greyed and pressing the location button produces no result.

    Entering the fully quailfied name (Domain\user (or group)) produces a "Name
    not found".
    --
    Peter A. Gordon
    MCP

    "Will Sheehan" wrote:

    > The group is probably a global distribution group. Global groups can only
    > contain users from the same domain. To include users from the second domain,
    > you need to first change the scope from global to universal.
    >
    > Will
    >
    > "Peter A. Gordon" wrote:
    >
    > > I'm looking for a little help for the 70-290 exam.
    > >
    > > I took the test yesterday (missed by 24 lousy points!) Oh well, study,
    > > study, study and try again.
    > >
    > > I got a simulator that gave me some trouble. I'm sure I'm missing one task
    > > (that is probablyvery simple and obvious), but here goes ....
    > >
    > > The forest contains 2 domains (both operating at Win 2k native mode). there
    > > is a 'sales' distribution group in one of the domains in AD. 3 tasks are
    > > requires:
    > >
    > > 1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)
    > > 2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)
    > > 3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)
    > >
    > > any thoughts?
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Peter A. Gordon
    > > MCP
     
    =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=, Jul 28, 2006
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  5. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=
    <> wrote in
    news::

    > any thoughts?


    You are violating the test aggreement with this post, and should thus not
    be allowed to certify.

    --
    Ole Kristian Bangås
    MCT, MCDBA, MCDST, MCSE:Security, MCSE:Messaging, MCTS, MCITP
     
    Ole Kristian Bangås, Jul 30, 2006
    #5
  6. Hi Ole,

    Though I agree with you that it is forbidden to discuss questions, wouldn't
    it be more beneficial to help the new people by explaining the rules rather
    than just jumping on them with 'You should not be certified'?

    Just a thought...

    M
    --
    MDG, MCSA
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000)
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/55/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Ole Kristian Bangås" wrote:

    > =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=
    > <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > any thoughts?

    >
    > You are violating the test aggreement with this post, and should thus not
    > be allowed to certify.
    >
    > --
    > Ole Kristian Bangås
    > MCT, MCDBA, MCDST, MCSE:Security, MCSE:Messaging, MCTS, MCITP
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNTQQ==?=, Aug 4, 2006
    #6
  7. Thanks, I have been contemplating my response to this.

    In fact, I am not a newbie to the computer industry... I have 32 years
    experience, everything from operations & data center management, programming,
    desktop and server support to LAN/WAN infrastructure implementation.

    I have grown up in this indeustry and throughout my years, I have worked in
    a team environment and what one person did nit know or had trouble with, a
    colleague helped (we shared knowledge!) Had I worded the question to the
    group as a problem in the workplace, I wonder if the response may have been
    different.

    I made an assumption that this community was in fact a support vehicle for
    those working toward certification. I've seen several posters that tout their
    certification and offer no help to the "community". I wonder what kind of
    team players these folks are.

    I apologize for my disregard for the testing agreement, but the scenario as
    described is something that I have encountered in the workplace without issue
    and had no issue with performing this task. Just thought I ask this
    "community" for ideas.
    --
    Peter A. Gordon
    MCP

    "Montreal MCSA" wrote:

    > Hi Ole,
    >
    > Though I agree with you that it is forbidden to discuss questions, wouldn't
    > it be more beneficial to help the new people by explaining the rules rather
    > than just jumping on them with 'You should not be certified'?
    >
    > Just a thought...
    >
    > M
    > --
    > MDG, MCSA
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000)
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/55/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Ole Kristian Bangås" wrote:
    >
    > > =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=
    > > <> wrote in
    > > news::
    > >
    > > > any thoughts?

    > >
    > > You are violating the test aggreement with this post, and should thus not
    > > be allowed to certify.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ole Kristian Bangås
    > > MCT, MCDBA, MCDST, MCSE:Security, MCSE:Messaging, MCTS, MCITP
    > >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=, Aug 4, 2006
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  8. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=

    Cerebrus Guest

    Peter,

    The point is only that discussing questions that you faced on the test,
    amounts to a violation of the test NDA that you signed, before taking
    the exam. This is because you are disclosing a question to those who
    might not have taken the exam yet.

    If you had asked the question as a general one, and not mentioned that
    you had this question on the exam, I'm sure the response would have
    been different.

    People here are helpful in their own capacities, and I see no reason
    for you to be disillusioned.
     
    Cerebrus, Aug 4, 2006
    #8
  9. Hi Peter,

    I agree with Cerebrus that you are not allowed to disclose questions and
    answers to exam questions. I do not agree with people who flout their
    credentials without offering help. I do believe in helping rather than
    putting people down. However Cerebrus is also right in that we are not
    allowed to discuss actual questions.

    I hope you realize that not everyone in the community (it really is a
    community!) is like that, an that you stick around for a while.

    As for the newbie comment I apologize if I offended you, but I did not mean
    newbie to computers, only newbie to the Microsoft certification process.

    Speaking of which, I am late to deliver a lecture on the new generation of
    certs so I am off!

    M
    --
    MDG, MCSA
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000)
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/55/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Peter A. Gordon" wrote:

    > I'm looking for a little help for the 70-290 exam.
    >
    > I took the test yesterday (missed by 24 lousy points!) Oh well, study,
    > study, study and try again.
    >
    > I got a simulator that gave me some trouble. I'm sure I'm missing one task
    > (that is probablyvery simple and obvious), but here goes ....
    >
    > The forest contains 2 domains (both operating at Win 2k native mode). there
    > is a 'sales' distribution group in one of the domains in AD. 3 tasks are
    > requires:
    >
    > 1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)
    > 2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)
    > 3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)
    >
    > any thoughts?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Peter A. Gordon
    > MCP
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNTQQ==?=, Aug 4, 2006
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  10. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=

    joshuapaul Guest

    joshuapaul, Aug 12, 2006
    #10
  11. Think about it...

    If you have a GG and you want it to contain users from another domain, it
    can not, so you need to change it to a UG, which you can, and then it could
    hold users from multiple domains in the same forest... not a good practice,
    but it will work...

    > 1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)

    add the users...
    > 2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)

    make it a security group...
    > 3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)

    make it a universal group...




    "Peter A. Gordon" wrote:

    > I'm looking for a little help for the 70-290 exam.
    >
    > I took the test yesterday (missed by 24 lousy points!) Oh well, study,
    > study, study and try again.
    >
    > I got a simulator that gave me some trouble. I'm sure I'm missing one task
    > (that is probablyvery simple and obvious), but here goes ....
    >
    > The forest contains 2 domains (both operating at Win 2k native mode). there
    > is a 'sales' distribution group in one of the domains in AD. 3 tasks are
    > requires:
    >
    > 1) add new users (already in AD) to the distribution group (no problem)
    > 2) modify the group to allow access to network resources (no problem)
    > 3)modify group to include users from the second domain in AD (couldn't get it)
    >
    > any thoughts?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Peter A. Gordon
    > MCP
     
    =?Utf-8?B?bWF0dGI=?=, Aug 18, 2006
    #11
  12. PLEASE NOTE: Brain Dumps are considered cheating, and anyone caught using
    them to pass an exam will have their certifications stripped, and will be
    forbidden from ever sitting for another Microsoft exam.

    M
    --
    MDG, MCSA
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000)
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/55/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "joshuapaul" wrote:

    >
    > Well if you have any problem with MCSE cert exam 70-290, you can go for
    > as much as practice questions. I can suggest you that you can follow
    > this link.
    > http://www.ucertify.com/exams/Microsoft/70-290.html
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > joshuapaul
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message2441969.html
    >
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNTQQ==?=, Aug 19, 2006
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  13. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=

    Cerebrus Guest

    Montreal MCSA wrote:

    > PLEASE NOTE: Brain Dumps are considered cheating, and anyone caught using
    > them to pass an exam will have their certifications stripped, and will be
    > forbidden from ever sitting for another Microsoft exam.


    If you are referring to the UCertify people, I wouldn't be so sure
    about labelling them as br@indumper providers. They have that
    br@indumpy look about them, but overall, seem clean to me.

    According to their FAQ :
    ///
    Q: Do you take your material from braindumps or exact questions, and
    answers from the Microsoft tests?

    A: We do not sell braindumps. We do not give exact exam questions to
    students. We do not encourage cheating. However, we provide articles,
    how tos, tutorial and study notes with our practice test to help you
    learn the subject so that you can pass the test easily. It also help
    you in the real job after the exam.
    \\\

    Whether this is just a false claim or the truth, can only be confirmed
    by someone who used their Prepkits to prepare for, and take an MS exam.


    If you have some evidence to corroborate or contradict their claim, I
    would love to know. But till then, I would suggest that we give them
    the benefit of doubt.

    Regards,
    ----
    Cerebrus.
    MCNGP #LIV (LIVe up to mommy's standards !)
     
    Cerebrus, Aug 19, 2006
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    BD [MCNGP] Guest

    >>Did you see what Cerebrus () graced us with in
    ?<<
    > Montreal MCSA wrote:
    >
    >> PLEASE NOTE: Brain Dumps are considered cheating, and anyone caught
    >> using them to pass an exam will have their certifications stripped,
    >> and will be forbidden from ever sitting for another Microsoft exam.

    >
    > If you are referring to the UCertify people, I wouldn't be so sure
    > about labelling them as br@indumper providers. They have that
    > br@indumpy look about them, but overall, seem clean to me.
    >
    > According to their FAQ :
    > ///
    > Q: Do you take your material from braindumps or exact questions, and
    > answers from the Microsoft tests?
    >
    > A: We do not sell braindumps. We do not give exact exam questions to
    > students. We do not encourage cheating. However, we provide articles,
    > how tos, tutorial and study notes with our practice test to help you
    > learn the subject so that you can pass the test easily. It also help
    > you in the real job after the exam.
    > \\\
    >
    > Whether this is just a false claim or the truth, can only be confirmed
    > by someone who used their Prepkits to prepare for, and take an MS
    > exam.
    >
    >
    > If you have some evidence to corroborate or contradict their claim, I
    > would love to know. But till then, I would suggest that we give them
    > the benefit of doubt.
    >
    > Regards,
    > ----
    > Cerebrus.
    > MCNGP #LIV (LIVe up to mommy's standards !)
    >

    I concur, as far as I could tell, UCertify is not providing any illegal
    information.

    I'm in the process of adding a section to my website (www.CertGuard.com) that
    will have a list of the legitimate websites. Unfortunately, because of the
    nature of dumps, I won't be providing links to the sites that I have found to be
    br@indumps, you'll just have to presume that if the website isn't listed on my
    site, then they are a br@indump provider.
    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com
     
    BD [MCNGP], Aug 24, 2006
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  15. =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQS4gR29yZG9u?=

    Cerebrus Guest

    BD [MCNGP] wrote:

    > I concur, as far as I could tell, UCertify is not providing any illegal
    > information.
    >
    > I'm in the process of adding a section to my website (www.CertGuard.com) that
    > will have a list of the legitimate websites. Unfortunately, because of the
    > nature of dumps, I won't be providing links to the sites that I have found to be
    > br@indumps, you'll just have to presume that if the website isn't listed on my
    > site, then they are a br@indump provider.
    > --
    > BD
    > MCNGP #51
    > -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    > -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com


    Yeah, exactly... If CertGuard doesn't certify it, it's uncertifiable !
     
    Cerebrus, Aug 25, 2006
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    BD [MCNGP] Guest

    >>Did you see what Cerebrus () graced us with in
    ?<<
    > BD [MCNGP] wrote:
    >
    >> I concur, as far as I could tell, UCertify is not providing any
    >> illegal information.
    >>
    >> I'm in the process of adding a section to my website
    >> (www.CertGuard.com) that will have a list of the legitimate
    >> websites. Unfortunately, because of the nature of dumps, I won't be
    >> providing links to the sites that I have found to be br@indumps,
    >> you'll just have to presume that if the website isn't listed on my
    >> site, then they are a br@indump provider. --
    >> BD
    >> MCNGP #51
    >> -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    >> -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com

    >
    > Yeah, exactly... If CertGuard doesn't certify it, it's uncertifiable !
    >

    That's the word I want to get out to everyone.
    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com
     
    BD [MCNGP], Aug 25, 2006
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    BD [MCNGP] Guest

    >>Did you see what BD [MCNGP] (BD@CertGuard) graced us with in
    ?<<

    Just a little update to this whole thread.

    I got some information yesterday that may change a few minds about UCertify...or
    not...

    Although they do not sell or sponsor braindumps, users claiming to be from
    UCertify have been banned from one certain forum (If you know it, you know
    it...if you don't, you don't) for a number of reasons, but the main reason was
    "because of their scamming techniques, pretending to be users of their products
    and testifying as to their worthiness."

    Although I will probably leave them on my site, I'll (soon) have it noted that
    they are not a worthy site because of the reason stated above.

    HTH
    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- MCNGP.com - You know IT!?
    -- www.CertGuard.com; www.SWPPM.com
     
    BD [MCNGP], Aug 28, 2006
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