3D linux CAD software that is free (beer) or cheap

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.
    I've tried FreeCAD, but that isn't what i'd call functional, and
    SagCAD, but that doesn't seem to work either.

    Just need to be able to generate 3D geometry and export to any of the
    common 3D model export formats like STEPS or IGES.

    Non worried about the licence or availability of source code.

    Any tips out there?
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  2. In message
    <>,
    Squiggle wrote:

    > I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    > non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.


    Found a lot of hits here <http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.

    Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Nov 19, 2010
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  3. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On Nov 19, 2:43 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
    central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
    > In message
    > <>,
    >
    > Squiggle wrote:
    > > I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    > > non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.

    >
    > Found a lot of hits here <http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.
    >
    > Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    > functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.


    Thanks, but i've wasted most of today trying to find something that
    meets my requirements.
    BRL-CAD and Blender are the top two contenders at this stage,
    everything else seems to be alpha version or full priced commercial
    software.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  4. Squiggle

    Gordon Guest

    On 2010-11-19, Squiggle <> wrote:
    > On Nov 19, 2:43 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
    > central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
    >> In message
    >> <>,
    >>
    >> Squiggle wrote:
    >> > I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    >> > non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.

    >>
    >> Found a lot of hits here <http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.
    >>
    >> Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    >> functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.

    >
    > Thanks, but i've wasted most of today trying to find something that
    > meets my requirements.
    > BRL-CAD and Blender are the top two contenders at this stage,
    > everything else seems to be alpha version or full priced commercial
    > software.


    If you find a free, as in speech, product; remember to donate to the cause.
    Authors like to see people this as it means that their software is on a
    roll, and needs to be kept that way
     
    Gordon, Nov 19, 2010
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  5. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 19/11/2010 6:35 p.m., Gordon threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    > On 2010-11-19, Squiggle <> wrote:
    >> On Nov 19, 2:43 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
    >> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
    >>> In message
    >>> <>,
    >>>
    >>> Squiggle wrote:
    >>>> I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    >>>> non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.
    >>>
    >>> Found a lot of hits here <http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.
    >>>
    >>> Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    >>> functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.

    >>
    >> Thanks, but i've wasted most of today trying to find something that
    >> meets my requirements.
    >> BRL-CAD and Blender are the top two contenders at this stage,
    >> everything else seems to be alpha version or full priced commercial
    >> software.

    >
    > If you find a free, as in speech, product; remember to donate to the cause.
    > Authors like to see people this as it means that their software is on a
    > roll, and needs to be kept that way


    Nope, hasn't happened, found a free (beer)version of a quality
    commercial 3D windows program that does what I need. Bit of a PITA
    having to reboot into windows if I need to change the model but still
    quicker than pfaffing about with the free linux alternatives.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  6. Squiggle

    victor Guest

    On 19/11/2010 7:47 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    > On 19/11/2010 6:35 p.m., Gordon threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    >> On 2010-11-19, Squiggle<> wrote:
    >>> On Nov 19, 2:43 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro<l...@geek-
    >>> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
    >>>> In message
    >>>> <>,
    >>>>
    >>>> Squiggle wrote:
    >>>>> I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    >>>>> non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.
    >>>>
    >>>> Found a lot of hits here<http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.
    >>>>
    >>>> Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    >>>> functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks, but i've wasted most of today trying to find something that
    >>> meets my requirements.
    >>> BRL-CAD and Blender are the top two contenders at this stage,
    >>> everything else seems to be alpha version or full priced commercial
    >>> software.

    >>
    >> If you find a free, as in speech, product; remember to donate to the cause.
    >> Authors like to see people this as it means that their software is on a
    >> roll, and needs to be kept that way

    >
    > Nope, hasn't happened, found a free (beer)version of a quality
    > commercial 3D windows program that does what I need. Bit of a PITA
    > having to reboot into windows if I need to change the model but still
    > quicker than pfaffing about with the free linux alternatives.


    You are wasting your time, you are on the slippery slope to pirating a
    proper program because you are too cheap to buy it.
     
    victor, Nov 19, 2010
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  7. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On Nov 19, 10:15 pm, victor <> wrote:
    > On 19/11/2010 7:47 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 19/11/2010 6:35 p.m., Gordon threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    > >> On 2010-11-19, Squiggle<>  wrote:
    > >>> On Nov 19, 2:43 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro<l...@geek-
    > >>> central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote:
    > >>>> In message
    > >>>> <>,

    >
    > >>>> Squiggle wrote:
    > >>>>> I'm looking for a functional 3D cad package for linux that is free for
    > >>>>> non-commercial use, or very reasonably priced.

    >
    > >>>> Found a lot of hits here<http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+cad>.

    >
    > >>>> Depending on what you want to do, Blender has some measurement-type
    > >>>> functionality. And the new 2.5x beta includes units as well.

    >
    > >>> Thanks, but i've wasted most of today trying to find something that
    > >>> meets my requirements.
    > >>> BRL-CAD and Blender are the top two contenders at this stage,
    > >>> everything else seems to be alpha version or full priced commercial
    > >>> software.

    >
    > >> If you find a free, as in speech, product; remember to donate to the cause.
    > >> Authors like to see people this as it means that their software is on a
    > >> roll, and needs to be kept that way

    >
    > > Nope, hasn't happened, found a free (beer)version of a quality
    > > commercial 3D windows program that does what I need.  Bit of a PITA
    > > having to reboot into windows if I need to change the model but still
    > > quicker than pfaffing about with the free linux alternatives.

    >
    > You are wasting your time, you are on the slippery slope to pirating a
    > proper program because you are too cheap to buy it.


    Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    program that does what I need?

    And why would i waste >$4K on software i'm not going to be using for
    commercial purposes?

    If i intended to pirate the software i would have just pirated abaqus
    or ansys and not fucked around with linux at all.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  8. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On Nov 19, 11:13 pm, wrote:
    > >Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    > >program that does what I need?

    >
    > So are you going to share the name of this program with the rest of
    > us?


    Creo Elements/Direct Modeling
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  9. In message
    <>, Squiggle wrote:

    > Creo Elements/Direct Modeling


    Some interesting limitations
    <http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-direct/modeling-personal-edition-3-0/faq.htm>:
    no photorealistic rendering, no extension APIs, only 60 unique parts. And
    the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products. Or
    anything else in the world, for that matter.

    Sounds like a bit of a toy, really. Oh, and you still need an Internet
    connection to be able to run it.
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Nov 19, 2010
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  10. Squiggle

    victor Guest

    On 19/11/2010 11:20 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    > On Nov 19, 11:13 pm, wrote:
    >>> Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    >>> program that does what I need?

    >>
    >> So are you going to share the name of this program with the rest of
    >> us?

    >
    > Creo Elements/Direct Modeling


    Freemium
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemium
    Its like eating from those little supermarket stalls with sales reps
    that give you mini cubes of their foodstuff on a toothpick in the hope
    that you will buy a full sized package.
     
    victor, Nov 19, 2010
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  11. Squiggle

    Sweetpea Guest

    On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:08:13 -0800, Squiggle wrote:

    > And why would i waste >$4K on software i'm not going to be using for
    > commercial purposes?


    Perhaps you would "waste" money on software if you couldn't legally
    install the software for any purpose without "wasting" money.


    --
    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
     
    Sweetpea, Nov 19, 2010
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  12. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 20/11/2010 10:08 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro threw some characters down
    the intarwebs:
    > In message
    > <>, Squiggle wrote:
    >
    >> Creo Elements/Direct Modeling

    >
    > Some interesting limitations
    > <http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-direct/modeling-personal-edition-3-0/faq.htm>:
    > no photorealistic rendering,


    not required

    no extension APIs

    not required

    , only 60 unique parts

    I need 20 max, usually <4 for what I need to do.

    .. And
    > the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products. Or
    > anything else in the world, for that matter.


    The full version does all that stuff, this is the free version they give
    away as a teaser
    >
    > Sounds like a bit of a toy, really. Oh, and you still need an Internet
    > connection to be able to run it.


    But its still free and better than any free Linux software I found.


    If you spent half as much time improving OSS as you do trying to bash
    proprietary software maybe you'd be able to point to an OSS CAD app that
    works better.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  13. Squiggle

    victor Guest

    On 19/11/2010 11:08 p.m., Squiggle wrote:

    >
    > Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    > program that does what I need?
    >
    > And why would i waste>$4K on software i'm not going to be using for
    > commercial purposes?
    >
    > If i intended to pirate the software i would have just pirated abaqus
    > or ansys and not fucked around with linux at all.


    That's what cracks and keygens are for, so you don't waste money on
    software you are not using for commerecial purposes.
     
    victor, Nov 19, 2010
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  14. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 20/11/2010 11:06 a.m., victor threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    > On 19/11/2010 11:20 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    >> On Nov 19, 11:13 pm, wrote:
    >>>> Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    >>>> program that does what I need?
    >>>
    >>> So are you going to share the name of this program with the rest of
    >>> us?

    >>
    >> Creo Elements/Direct Modeling

    >
    > Freemium
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemium
    > Its like eating from those little supermarket stalls with sales reps
    > that give you mini cubes of their foodstuff on a toothpick in the hope
    > that you will buy a full sized package.



    Yep, but still means i get to do what i want for free with decent
    quality software. They wont get a sale out of me, i'm not using it for
    commercial gain so no way would i pay the $2K/year (guess) licence fee
    for Creo/DM or Creo/Pro.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  15. Squiggle

    victor Guest

    On 20/11/2010 12:21 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    > On 20/11/2010 10:08 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro threw some characters down
    > the intarwebs:
    >> In message
    >> <>, Squiggle wrote:
    >>
    >>> Creo Elements/Direct Modeling

    >>
    >> Some interesting limitations
    >> <http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-direct/modeling-personal-edition-3-0/faq.htm>:
    >> no photorealistic rendering,

    >
    > not required
    >
    > no extension APIs
    >
    > not required
    >
    > , only 60 unique parts
    >
    > I need 20 max, usually<4 for what I need to do.
    >
    > . And
    >> the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products. Or
    >> anything else in the world, for that matter.

    >
    > The full version does all that stuff, this is the free version they give
    > away as a teaser
    >>
    >> Sounds like a bit of a toy, really. Oh, and you still need an Internet
    >> connection to be able to run it.

    >
    > But its still free and better than any free Linux software I found.
    >
    >
    > If you spent half as much time improving OSS as you do trying to bash
    > proprietary software maybe you'd be able to point to an OSS CAD app that
    > works better.


    Don't you think you being a bit harsh continuing to use linux while you
    troll news groups to slag it off ?
     
    victor, Nov 19, 2010
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  16. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 20/11/2010 12:22 p.m., victor threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    > On 19/11/2010 11:08 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Why would i pirate something when I've already found a free legal
    >> program that does what I need?
    >>
    >> And why would i waste>$4K on software i'm not going to be using for
    >> commercial purposes?
    >>
    >> If i intended to pirate the software i would have just pirated abaqus
    >> or ansys and not fucked around with linux at all.

    >
    > That's what cracks and keygens are for, so you don't waste money on
    > software you are not using for commerecial purposes.


    Are you suggesting I should just crack a commercial product and use that?
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  17. In message <ic70pl$jqv$-september.org>, Squiggle wrote:

    > I need 20 max, usually <4 for what I need to do.


    Like I said, a toy.

    >> And the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products.
    >> Or anything else in the world, for that matter.

    >
    > The full version does all that stuff, this is the free version they give
    > away as a teaser


    The full version can’t even read the files from the “free†version.

    > But its still free and better than any free Linux software I found.


    The Free software tends to concentrate on serious uses, I guess.
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Nov 19, 2010
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  18. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 20/11/2010 12:25 p.m., victor threw some characters down the intarwebs:
    > On 20/11/2010 12:21 p.m., Squiggle wrote:
    >> On 20/11/2010 10:08 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro threw some characters down
    >> the intarwebs:
    >>> In message
    >>> <>,
    >>> Squiggle wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Creo Elements/Direct Modeling
    >>>
    >>> Some interesting limitations
    >>> <http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-direct/modeling-personal-edition-3-0/faq.htm>:
    >>>
    >>> no photorealistic rendering,

    >>
    >> not required
    >>
    >> no extension APIs
    >>
    >> not required
    >>
    >> , only 60 unique parts
    >>
    >> I need 20 max, usually<4 for what I need to do.
    >>
    >> . And
    >>> the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products. Or
    >>> anything else in the world, for that matter.

    >>
    >> The full version does all that stuff, this is the free version they give
    >> away as a teaser
    >>>
    >>> Sounds like a bit of a toy, really. Oh, and you still need an Internet
    >>> connection to be able to run it.

    >>
    >> But its still free and better than any free Linux software I found.
    >>
    >>
    >> If you spent half as much time improving OSS as you do trying to bash
    >> proprietary software maybe you'd be able to point to an OSS CAD app that
    >> works better.

    >
    > Don't you think you being a bit harsh continuing to use linux while you
    > troll news groups to slag it off ?


    Just giving LDO some of his own back. Personally I like linux and am
    investigating converting to it as my primary OS, leaving Windows for
    recreational activities.

    I also plan to contribute to the OSS software I'm trying to run on
    Linux, once I get it working and understand it well enough. I'll update
    the tutorials for the software that are causing me so much frustration
    since they are 2 versions out of date and the menu items they tell you
    to use no longer exist.
     
    Squiggle, Nov 19, 2010
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  19. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    On 20/11/2010 12:49 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro threw some characters down
    the intarwebs:
    > In message <ic70pl$jqv$-september.org>, Squiggle wrote:
    >
    >> I need 20 max, usually <4 for what I need to do.

    >
    > Like I said, a toy.
    >
    >>> And the file format isn’t even compatible with the rest of its products.
    >>> Or anything else in the world, for that matter.

    >>
    >> The full version does all that stuff, this is the free version they give
    >> away as a teaser

    >
    > The full version can’t even read the files from the “free†version.


    Just an anti piracy measure, very common, Autodesk & PTC do similar
    things with student versions. If you have a valid licence for the full
    software they will convert them for free. If you don't, tough.
    >
    >> But its still free and better than any free Linux software I found.

    >
    > The Free software tends to concentrate on serious uses, I guess.


    Hate to tell you this,but in terms of serious large scale mechanical
    engineering design Linux seems to be dying, With 2* of the big 3
    CAE/CAD/CAM packages dropping *nix support serious mechanical
    engineering is becoming a windows thing.


    *CATIA and Pro/Engineer (now known as Creo Elements/Pro.)
     
    Squiggle, Nov 20, 2010
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  20. Squiggle

    Sweetpea Guest

    On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:22:13 +1300, victor wrote:

    > That's what cracks and keygens are for, so you don't waste money on
    > software you are not using for commerecial purposes.


    Not true. those are for illegally installing software by avoiding the
    requirement to purchasing a license.


    --
    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
     
    Sweetpea, Nov 20, 2010
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