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Robert Baer
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      07-27-2013
Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
during copy of a partition.
Is there a (detailed) progress log, where is it, and how do i look at it?
 
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VanguardLH
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      07-28-2013
Robert Baer wrote:

> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
> where is it, and how do i look at it?


PartMagic? Did you mean PartitionMagic (by Powerquest swallowed up by
Symantec and abandoned) or Parted Magic? I'll assume you meant Parted
Magic (aka GParted).

http://www.google.com/search?q="parted%20magic"%20log

The first hit was:

http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
(but does not take you to the actual page, just the doc list).

In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

The only online "documentation" at the Clonezilla's site are a bunch
of screen snapshots. They have a users forum at Sourceforge
(http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

http://www.google.com/search?q=clonezilla log

found:

http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/
* Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.
 
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Robert Baer
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      07-29-2013
VanguardLH wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
>> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
>> where is it, and how do i look at it?

>
> PartMagic? Did you mean PartitionMagic (by Powerquest swallowed up by
> Symantec and abandoned) or Parted Magic? I'll assume you meant Parted
> Magic (aka GParted).

* Correct; PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla.

>
> http://www.google.com/search?q="parted%20magic"%20log
>
> The first hit was:
>
> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
> (but does not take you to the actual page, just the doc list).
>
> In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
> that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

* Well, close but no cigar as they say.
I see no windows-like displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown
in that list.
PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
remember seeing anything during operation like "save details".
And (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?

>
> The only online "documentation" at the Clonezilla's site are a bunch
> of screen snapshots. They have a users forum at Sourceforge
> (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

* Hmm..add a thread just for this?

>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=clonezilla log
>
> found:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

* see only "sales pitches".

> * Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
> and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

* Automatically created? Some virtual place during the session?
How can one copy them to a floppy?

 
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VanguardLH
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      07-29-2013
Robert Baer wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>
>>> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
>>> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
>>> where is it, and how do i look at it?

>>
>> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
>> In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
>> that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

>
> Well, close but no cigar as they say. I see no windows-like
> displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown in that list.
> PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
> remember seeing anything during operation like "save details". And
> (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
> only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?


If you don't see Save Details then you'll have to ask the author why
he documents a function that you cannot see. Since their web site
doesn't mention how to contact the author or developer(s), looks like
you're stuck asking in their forums (http://forums.partedmagic.com/).

>> They have a users forum at Sourceforge
>> (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

>
> Hmm..add a thread just for this?


Well, that's what you did here.

>> http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

>
> see only "sales pitches".


Did you search on "log files" in that web page (to find the quoted
content below)?

>> Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
>> and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

>
> Automatically created?


I suppose so when you run the program to do the clone job.

> Some virtual place during the session?


The absolute path is specified.

> How can one copy them to a floppy?


How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?
 
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Robert Baer
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      07-29-2013
VanguardLH wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clonezilla and PartMagic work rather nicely, but may have errors
>>>> during copy of a partition. Is there a (detailed) progress log,
>>>> where is it, and how do i look at it?
>>>
>>> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
>>> In the left-side category listing, click on "Using GParted". Search
>>> that page for "keep a log" (or go to step 9).

>>
>> Well, close but no cigar as they say. I see no windows-like
>> displays, nothing anywhere like what is shown in that list.
>> PartedMagic and/or Clonezilla produces test-only info, and i do not
>> remember seeing anything during operation like "save details". And
>> (say) i want the details saved to an ASCII file on a floppy (as
>> only reliable destination), what mumbo-jumbo would i use?

>
> If you don't see Save Details then you'll have to ask the author why
> he documents a function that you cannot see. Since their web site
> doesn't mention how to contact the author or developer(s), looks like
> you're stuck asking in their forums (http://forums.partedmagic.com/).
>
>>> They have a users forum at Sourceforge
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/).

>>
>> Hmm..add a thread just for this?

>
> Well, that's what you did here.
>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/news/

>>
>> see only "sales pitches".

>
> Did you search on "log files" in that web page (to find the quoted
> content below)?
>
>>> Three log files, /var/log/clonezilla.log, /var/log/ocs-netcfg.log,
>>> and /var/log/ocs-mount.log are used to save the logs.

>>
>> Automatically created?

>
> I suppose so when you run the program to do the clone job.
>
>> Some virtual place during the session?

>
> The absolute path is specified.
>
>> How can one copy them to a floppy?

>
> How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

Never done that in Linux.
I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its own, different language and
i have no idea how to copy a file, and can only guess how to even change
folders (prolly different also).

 
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VanguardLH
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      07-29-2013
Robert Baer wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

>
> Never done that in Linux. I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its
> own, different language and i have no idea how to copy a file, and
> can only guess how to even change folders (prolly different also).


Then wouldn't a partition manager that has a Windows-like GUI be more
to your liking, like Easeus PartitionManager (free for personal use)?
Alas, looks like you have to buy a payware version to get a [WinPE]
bootable version so you could boot from optical disk or a flash drive.

http://www.partition-tool.com/

To check if that program has the logs that you want, you could ask
other users in their forums at:

http://forum.easeus.com/

I don't leave partition managers installed since it is rare that I
need one. I do have the Minitool Partition Manager on a bootable CD.

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html
http://www.partitionwizard.com/parti...otable-cd.html

Since it is rare that I change partitioning, I don't recall what if
any logging the free version might have. They have an edition compare
page but don't mention logging for any of them; however, that function
is often omitted in such rudimentary comparisons.

http://www.partitionwizard.com/comparison.html

You might have to ask them a pre-sales question on which, if any, of
their editions support logging.
 
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Robert Baer
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      07-31-2013
VanguardLH wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> How do you normally copy a file to a floppy?

>>
>> Never done that in Linux. I am a DOS and WinDoz guy; Linux has its
>> own, different language and i have no idea how to copy a file, and
>> can only guess how to even change folders (prolly different also).

>
> Then wouldn't a partition manager that has a Windows-like GUI be more
> to your liking, like Easeus PartitionManager (free for personal use)?
> Alas, looks like you have to buy a payware version to get a [WinPE]
> bootable version so you could boot from optical disk or a flash drive.
>
> http://www.partition-tool.com/
>
> To check if that program has the logs that you want, you could ask
> other users in their forums at:
>
> http://forum.easeus.com/
>
> I don't leave partition managers installed since it is rare that I
> need one. I do have the Minitool Partition Manager on a bootable CD.
>
> http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html
> http://www.partitionwizard.com/parti...otable-cd.html
>
> Since it is rare that I change partitioning, I don't recall what if
> any logging the free version might have. They have an edition compare
> page but don't mention logging for any of them; however, that function
> is often omitted in such rudimentary comparisons.
>
> http://www.partitionwizard.com/comparison.html
>
> You might have to ask them a pre-sales question on which, if any, of
> their editions support logging.

Err..am only making a clone of a hard drive, and happened to see that
the copy process failed on one of the partitions.
Would like to see a reasonably detailed log after cloning is done;
that way i could be assured copy was good OR if problem, which partition.
So, with that in mind,what is the magic code one would use to copy a
file (created/written during a session) to a floppy?


 
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VanguardLH
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      07-31-2013
Robert Baer wrote:

> what is the magic code one would use to copy a file (created/written
> during a session) to a floppy?


If the floppy drive isn't mounted already, you'll have to mount it so
you can then access it. See:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-c...-to-hard-disk/

You'll be using the 'cp' command to copy files from the logdir for the
clone program. For help on the 'cp' command, run 'man cp' to see the
man[ual] page for that program. Remember to use forward slashes in
*NIX paths, not the backslashes that Microsoft chose to use.

http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_cp.htm
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm

Using console-mode (command-line) commands means you need to get to a
prompt in a shell. Do either Clonezilla or Parted Magic let you drop
out of their UI so you can get into a shell? If not, and if you are
using bootable media from which you run those programs, do you drop
back into the shell when you exit those programs?
 
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Paul
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      07-31-2013
VanguardLH wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>> what is the magic code one would use to copy a file (created/written
>> during a session) to a floppy?

>
> If the floppy drive isn't mounted already, you'll have to mount it so
> you can then access it. See:
>
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-c...-to-hard-disk/
>
> You'll be using the 'cp' command to copy files from the logdir for the
> clone program. For help on the 'cp' command, run 'man cp' to see the
> man[ual] page for that program. Remember to use forward slashes in
> *NIX paths, not the backslashes that Microsoft chose to use.
>
> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_cp.htm
> http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm
>
> Using console-mode (command-line) commands means you need to get to a
> prompt in a shell. Do either Clonezilla or Parted Magic let you drop
> out of their UI so you can get into a shell? If not, and if you are
> using bootable media from which you run those programs, do you drop
> back into the shell when you exit those programs?


Actually, you can use mcopy in Linux, to copy to a floppy.
Something like:

mcopy /home/users/wally/myfile.txt A:/myfile.txt

In my virtual machine collection here, I have a problem mounting
the virtual floppy in Virtual PC. And when that won't work, I
find that the "mtools" mcopy command will still work. (Go to package
manager and see if an "mtools" is available for download.)

I first started using mcopy back at work years ago, for some
similar reason, and the package is available to help out
in emergencies.

http://ss64.com/bash/mtools.html

The hardest part of using those, is figuring out the syntax of the command.
I can never get it right on the first try.

The nice thing about the commands, is they do the least I/O possible
to the floppy (i.e. like DOS was doing it). If you mount a floppy,
I find the mount operation reads around a quarter of the floppy
(takes a few seconds), and also the I/O is lazy and the write cache
gets flushed on a dismount (so you can't just pop out a mounted
floppy without following the rules). Mcopy is a little better in
that regard, as it appears to be a block level tool without all
the fancy caching used in a mount.

Paul
 
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