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On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:


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> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose there
> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the answer. But
> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>

You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without the
image breaking up.

The first image is full frame.
The last is a crop.
<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>

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PeterN

On Feb 1, 10:45*am, PeterN <peter.newnos...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 9:54 AM, RichA wrote:
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> > On Jan 31, 9:38 pm, PeterN <peter.newnos...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On 1/31/2013 6:17 PM, Savageduck wrote:
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> >>> On 2013-01-31 15:08:42 -0800, me <m...@mine.net> said:
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> >>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:39:43 -0800, nick c <nchen...@ontheverizon.net>
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> >>>>> Just thinking about the 800 F5.6 lens has my salivating glands working.
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> >>>> I'm not sure what scares me more, the ~U$18kmsrp or the 10+# weight.
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> >>> This is the type of lens you rent for a project, along with a gimbal head.
> >>> <http://www.lensprotogo.com/>
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> >> My friends who have large & heavy lenses, all use a Gimbal head.
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> > Most of them are hugely under-gunned for what is needed. *A top-flight
> > tripod (if you can carry it) is needed for an 800mm lens. *I've got
> > one of these. *If you have a spare $2000-$4000 for the tripod and
> > $1000 for they head, they are some of the best.
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> > *http://www.quickset.com/products-tec...rable-tripods/
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> I think that is overkill for the average amateur, to say the least. You
> don't need 400lb capacity. I have a Cullman, which is more than ample
> for that weight. The cost is considerably less.
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> <http://www.cullmann.de/en/tripods.html>
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> You are right about the cost of the Gimbal, with all bells & whistles.
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> PeterN

They have some tripods there that are good to lesser weight. If you
really go nuts, they have active stabilization systems to eliminate
low-frequency motion.

On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
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>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose there
>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the answer. But
>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>
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> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without the
> image breaking up.
>
> The first image is full frame.
> The last is a crop.
> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>

Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.

On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, nick c wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
>> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
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>>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose there
>>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the answer. But
>>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>>
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>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without the
>> image breaking up.
>>
>> The first image is full frame.
>> The last is a crop.
>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
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> Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.

So do I. Unfortunately we are not allowed one where we live.

Here's one of a dog with a bird.
<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>


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PeterN

On 2/1/2013 2:22 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 14:08:42 -0800, PeterN <> said:
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>> On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, nick c wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
>>>> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose there
>>>>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>>>>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>>>>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the answer. But
>>>>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
>>>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
>>>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without
>>>> the
>>>> image breaking up.
>>>>
>>>> The first image is full frame.
>>>> The last is a crop.
>>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.
>>
>> So do I. Unfortunately we are not allowed one where we live.
>>
>> Here's one of a dog with a bird.
>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>
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> ...and here is my departed girl's opinion of all that!
> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...-opinion-w.jpg >
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>

Hey Duck, if I didn't know better I'd think that dog bit-off someone's
personal jewel.

On 2/1/2013 2:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, nick c wrote:
>> On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose there
>>>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>>>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>>>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the answer. But
>>>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
>>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
>>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without the
>>> image breaking up.
>>>
>>> The first image is full frame.
>>> The last is a crop.
>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>>>
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>> Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.
>
> So do I. Unfortunately we are not allowed one where we live.
>
> Here's one of a dog with a bird.
> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>
>
>

That's a good shot too. My last dog was a Japanese Ikita. That dog would
have eaten the bird.

On 2/1/2013 2:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 14:38:07 -0800, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
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>> On 2013-02-01 14:35:37 -0800, nick c <> said:
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>>> On 2/1/2013 2:22 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>> On 2013-02-01 14:08:42 -0800, PeterN <>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, nick c wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>>>>>>>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>>>>>>>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the
>>>>>>>> answer. But
>>>>>>>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an
>>>>>>> example of
>>>>>>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7
>>>>>>> extender.
>>>>>>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> image breaking up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first image is full frame.
>>>>>>> The last is a crop.
>>>>>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>> So do I. Unfortunately we are not allowed one where we live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one of a dog with a bird.
>>>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> ...and here is my departed girl's opinion of all that!
>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...-opinion-w.jpg >
>>>>
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>>> Hey Duck, if I didn't know better I'd think that dog bit-off
>>> someone's personal jewel.
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>> Naah! She was a sweet heart. She would lick you to death.
>> ...if you were properly introduced.
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> This was usual guard position, on "her" chair.
> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../Gypsy-1Aw.jpg >
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Now, that's a layed-back pose that appeals to me and is in harmony with
my general nature. Aah ....

On 2/1/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 14:38:07 -0800, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
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>> On 2013-02-01 14:35:37 -0800, nick c <> said:
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>>> On 2/1/2013 2:22 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>> On 2013-02-01 14:08:42 -0800, PeterN <>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, nick c wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/1/2013 7:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/1/2013 1:42 AM, Wally wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Florida is a birder's paradise, and I would love to be let loose
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> with a 500 or 600 or 800mm lens. Buying could not be justified, nor
>>>>>>>> would it be easy transporting big lenses by air together with their
>>>>>>>> tripods and gimbal heads. So renting would seem to be the
>>>>>>>> answer. But
>>>>>>>> just try finding big glass for rent in Miami. I have and failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an
>>>>>>> example of
>>>>>>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7
>>>>>>> extender.
>>>>>>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> image breaking up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first image is full frame.
>>>>>>> The last is a crop.
>>>>>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not bad, Peter ... not bad at all. Personally, I like dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>> So do I. Unfortunately we are not allowed one where we live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one of a dog with a bird.
>>>>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> ...and here is my departed girl's opinion of all that!
>>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...-opinion-w.jpg >
>>>>
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>>> Hey Duck, if I didn't know better I'd think that dog bit-off
>>> someone's personal jewel.
>>
>> Naah! She was a sweet heart. She would lick you to death.
>> ...if you were properly introduced.
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> This was usual guard position, on "her" chair.
> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil.../Gypsy-1Aw.jpg >
>

Theyu become like family. When the time came for our collie, I couldn't
do it. My wife had to handle take her on her final trip to the vet.

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PeterN

On 2/1/2013 5:39 PM, nick c wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 2:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
<snip>
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>> Here's one of a dog with a bird.
>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/duck%20for%20dinner.jpg>
>>
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> That's a good shot too. My last dog was a Japanese Ikita. That dog would
> have eaten the bird.

Thank you. That shot won print of the year in my CC.
My younger daughter used to take care of an Akita for one of her
neighbors, when they were out. One day she took the dog to an outdoor
coffee shop, where she sat down with the Akita. Some guy made got closer
than the dog thought safe. The dog went to full alert and stared at an
imaginary point on the ground.. fortunately, this guy had the good sense
not to cross that line.


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PeterN

On 2/1/2013 7:17 PM, Elliott Roper wrote:
> In article <510be63d$0$10794$>, PeterN
> <> wrote:
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>> <snip>
>> You might consider a very high resolution camera. Here is an example of
>> a shot from over 100 yds away, with my 70-200mm using a 1.7 extender.
>> i.e. effective 340mm, hand held. I could pro bably crop mire without the
>> image breaking up.
>>
>> The first image is full frame.
>> The last is a crop.
>> <http://dl.dropbox.com/u/97242118/_DSC6570.jpg>
>
> I can see why you need to stand back with a tele lens for that critter.
> He has not finished eating the last guy's lens
>

Nah! Iguanas are harmless, but they like to eat eggs.

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PeterN