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misanthropiccurmudgeon@breastcancermail.com
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      01-09-2013
Gentlefolk,

Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.

I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and the laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get back.

The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome' screen:it sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes black with an active working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the hard drive working/searching.

The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in safe mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found nothing amiss. Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the RW-CD or the USBs so that makes recovery of the photos difficult. I have copied the photos out of the 'personal photo' folder of the user profile and into a directory on the hard drive.

As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran Ophcrack, which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to work OK and allow me to navigate around the place.

It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista 2/2', which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear of losing the photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd rather try something other than Vista.

So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said its been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a living, andI'm quite rusty!

 
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Malcolm
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      01-09-2013
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 06:18:41 PM CST,
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Gentlefolk,
>
>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
>gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.
>
>I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and
>the laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get
>back.
>
>The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome'
>screen: it sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes
>black with an active working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the
>hard drive working/searching.
>
>The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in
>safe mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found
>nothing amiss. Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the
>RW-CD or the USBs so that makes recovery of the photos difficult. I
>have copied the photos out of the 'personal photo' folder of the user
>profile and into a directory on the hard drive.
>
>As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran
>Ophcrack, which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to
>work OK and allow me to navigate around the place.
>
>It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista
>2/2', which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear
>of losing the photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd
>rather try something other than Vista.
>
>So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said
>its been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a
>living, and I'm quite rusty!
>

Hi
Download the Trinity Rescue Kit, it's linux, but has an easy menu
system, check the drives, mount them and see if you can browse?

I would only try that once, pull the drive and use something like
photorec to see if you can recover.

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Gordon
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      01-09-2013
On 2013-01-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Gentlefolk,
>>
>>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
>>gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.


Okay let us do some gutting.

{snip}

>
> You could try this http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html it runs from
> the CD. I used a very early version some years ago and I got access to some
> files I needed to recover. It does not install anything on the hard drive, so
> if you can boot from the CD you should have access.


Look, this is good advice. There are *many* Linux live CDs, which will allow
you to check out the HD on the machine without writing to it.

Now PhotoRec, at least that what I think it is called recovers photos.yes?

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

Finally, may I ask, Where are the back ups? Dumb arse.

 
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Frank Williams
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      01-09-2013
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:18:41 -0800 (PST),
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Gentlefolk,
>
>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.
>
>I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and the laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get back.
>
>The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome' screen: it sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes black with an active working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the hard drive working/searching.
>
>The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in safe mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found nothing amiss. Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the RW-CD or the USBs so that makes recovery of the photos difficult. I have copied the photos out of the 'personal photo' folder of the user profile and into a directory on the hard drive.
>
>As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran Ophcrack, which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to work OK and allow me to navigate around the place.
>
>It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista 2/2', which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear of losing the photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd rather try something other than Vista.
>
>So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said its been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a living, and I'm quite rusty!



Get hold of the Free Kaspersky rescue CD.


Dnload it here and burn it onto a CD you will have full support to all
you files and even USB no drivers required is all in the CD.

Select the File manager when its loaded..


https://support.kaspersky.com/4162



 
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Frank Williams
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      01-09-2013
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:10:55 -0600, Malcolm
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Tue 08 Jan 2013 06:18:41 PM CST,
>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>Gentlefolk,
>>
>>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
>>gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.
>>
>>I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and
>>the laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get
>>back.
>>
>>The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome'
>>screen: it sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes
>>black with an active working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the
>>hard drive working/searching.
>>
>>The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in
>>safe mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found
>>nothing amiss. Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the
>>RW-CD or the USBs so that makes recovery of the photos difficult. I
>>have copied the photos out of the 'personal photo' folder of the user
>>profile and into a directory on the hard drive.
>>
>>As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran
>>Ophcrack, which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to
>>work OK and allow me to navigate around the place.
>>
>>It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista
>>2/2', which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear
>>of losing the photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd
>>rather try something other than Vista.
>>
>>So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said
>>its been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a
>>living, and I'm quite rusty!
>>

>Hi
>Download the Trinity Rescue Kit, it's linux, but has an easy menu
>system, check the drives, mount them and see if you can browse?
>
>I would only try that once, pull the drive and use something like
>photorec to see if you can recover.




Keaspersky Rescue CD 10 is ten times better Full GUI and simple to use,
fully supports USB and no drivers required.
 
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Frank Williams
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      01-09-2013
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:21:56 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>Gentlefolk,
>>
>>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
>>gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.
>>
>>I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and the
>>laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get back.
>>
>>The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome' screen: it
>>sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes black with an active
>>working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the hard drive working/searching.
>>
>>The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in safe
>>mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found nothing amiss.
>>Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the RW-CD or the USBs so that
>>makes recovery of the photos difficult. I have copied the photos out of the
>>'personal photo' folder of the user profile and into a directory on the hard
>>drive.
>>
>>As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran Ophcrack,
>>which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to work OK and allow me
>>to navigate around the place.
>>
>>It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista 2/2',
>>which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear of losing the
>>photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd rather try something
>>other than Vista.
>>
>>So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said its
>>been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a living, and I'm
>>quite rusty!

>
>You could try this http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html it runs from
>the CD. I used a very early version some years ago and I got access to some
>files I needed to recover. It does not install anything on the hard drive, so
>if you can boot from the CD you should have access.
>Good luck
>Tony



Just get this


Keaspersky Rescue CD 10 is ten times better Full GUI and simple to use,
fully supports USB and no drivers required.
 
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Frank Williams
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      01-09-2013
On 9 Jan 2013 04:14:06 GMT, Gordon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 2013-01-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Gentlefolk,
>>>
>>>Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
>>>gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.

>
>Okay let us do some gutting.
>
>{snip}
>
>>
>> You could try this http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html it runs from
>> the CD. I used a very early version some years ago and I got access to some
>> files I needed to recover. It does not install anything on the hard drive, so
>> if you can boot from the CD you should have access.

>
>Look, this is good advice. There are *many* Linux live CDs, which will allow
>you to check out the HD on the machine without writing to it.
>
>Now PhotoRec, at least that what I think it is called recovers photos.yes?
>
>http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
>
>Finally, may I ask, Where are the back ups? Dumb arse.




This is the Only thing to get

https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuedisk

Yes uses Linux but its a Full GUI and made for idiots like me

No need to learn Lunix laws or how to stand on you head

 
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Frank Williams
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      01-09-2013
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:54:45 +1300, Crash McBash
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>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:48:05 +1300, Frank Williams
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>[snip]
>>
>>Yes uses Linux but its a Full GUI and made for idiots like me

>[snip]
>
>Well I never - Roger can now spell Linux correctly!!




Sorry that was spelt wrong it should read Lunix..

Its even in my spell checker -
 
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EMB
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      01-09-2013
On 9/01/2013 3:18 p.m., (E-Mail Removed) wrote:


> So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me.


Pull the hard drive out. Drop it in a working machine. Browse it for
the photos and copy them off.

And after the event, don't reinstall Vista.
 
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Dave Doe
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      01-10-2013
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed),
(E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> Gentlefolk,
>
> Some help please, for someone whose not really had to much to do with
> gutting/configuring machines since Windows 3.1.
>
> I've aquired a laptop running a genuine version of Visa Business, and
> the laptop has sentimental photos the former owner would like to get
> back.
>
> The problem is that the laptop wont boot up past the blue 'Welcome'
> screen: it sits on this screen for a good 30 seconds, and then goes
> black with an active working cursor but nothing else. I can hear the
> hard drive working/searching.
>
> The machine has one hard drive and memory tests seem OK. It boots in
> safe mode OK, and I've run AVGs standalone antivirus whcih found
> nothing amiss. Naturally I have no window-based write-access to the
> RW-CD or the USBs so that makes recovery of the photos difficult. I
> have copied the photos out of the 'personal photo' folder of the user
> profile and into a directory on the hard drive.
>
> As part of getting around the lost password for the profile, I ran
> Ophcrack, which seems to run/set-up a unix-esque OS that seemed to
> work OK and allow me to navigate around the place.
>
> It came with a couple of copied disks marked 'Vista 1/2' and 'Vista
> 2/2', which I'm relctuant to try and reinstall at this stage for fear
> of losing the photos: If I have to reinstall an operating system I'd
> rather try something other than Vista.
>
> So, any hints/guides/suggestions for me. Anyting to check? As I said
> its been 20-mumble years since I was doing this sort of thing for a
> living, and I'm quite rusty!


I wouldn't be going down the "pull the hard drive and run photorec" path
before trying a few other things first. And, photorec, IIRC, will not
recover original filenames - although perhaps it will, if the filesystem
is intact, which it sounds like it is.

I'd boot up again in Safe Mode and run msconfig (Start, Run, 'msconfig'
(no quotes), Enter).

In msconfig, click the Services tab and then the hide all MS services.
Clear all of them, and then carefully re-check the ones you think will
be safe and will need re USB, CD/DVD support.

Then on the Startup tab, clear all of them. Again, you may want to
check some of the ones you know to be good and safe but most
importantly, necessary.

While in Safe Mode, set the disk to check itself on re-boot. Go Start,
Run and type cmd - press <Ctrl><Shift> <Enter> - and you should be
prompted to run the command prompt window in elevated privilege mode.
The window should have "Administrator:" ... in the title bar. In the
command prompt window type 'chkdsk c: /f' <Enter>. You'll be prompted
to enable a checkdisk on the next boot, as it won't be able to run on
the system disk currently in use.

Reboot.

A checkdisk will run and any filesystem errors will be fixed. Then it
will auto-reboot again and since you've disabled nearly all the startup
services and programs, one would hope it will boot through normally, and
then you'll be able to copy the files you need.


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