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Julie Bove
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      12-14-2012
How does one access NGs if you have one of these OSs? I will one day need
to get a new computer and my brother says I will no longer be able to use
OE. I am using Eternal September. Would this not be compatible with
whatever mail reader I would have to use with one of those systems?

Thanks!


 
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Paul
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      12-14-2012
Julie Bove wrote:
> How does one access NGs if you have one of these OSs? I will one day need
> to get a new computer and my brother says I will no longer be able to use
> OE. I am using Eternal September. Would this not be compatible with
> whatever mail reader I would have to use with one of those systems?
>
> Thanks!


You could give Thunderbird a try.

And there's more of them listed here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_news_clients

Paul

 
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Julie Bove
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      12-14-2012

"Paul" <> wrote in message
news:kaemi4$ee$...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> How does one access NGs if you have one of these OSs? I will one day
>> need to get a new computer and my brother says I will no longer be able
>> to use OE. I am using Eternal September. Would this not be compatible
>> with whatever mail reader I would have to use with one of those systems?
>>
>> Thanks!

>
> You could give Thunderbird a try.
>
> And there's more of them listed here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_news_clients


I already have Eternal September. The client isn't the problem. Are you
saying that Eternal September won't work with whatever newsreader comes with
Win7 or Win8? My friend has Win7 and he said he view in Windows Live Mail.


 
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      12-14-2012
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Paul" <> wrote in message
> news:kaemi4$ee$...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> How does one access NGs if you have one of these OSs? I will one day
>>> need to get a new computer and my brother says I will no longer be able
>>> to use OE. I am using Eternal September. Would this not be compatible
>>> with whatever mail reader I would have to use with one of those systems?
>>>
>>> Thanks!

>> You could give Thunderbird a try.
>>
>> And there's more of them listed here.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_news_clients

>
> I already have Eternal September. The client isn't the problem. Are you
> saying that Eternal September won't work with whatever newsreader comes with
> Win7 or Win8? My friend has Win7 and he said he view in Windows Live Mail.


Newsreader programs are independent of the server.

Thunderbird will work with Eternal September
Windows Live Mail will work with Eternal September.
OE (for older OS) will work with Eternal September.
40tude Dialog will work with Eternal September.

Some of these readers, allow you to set up more than one
server at a time. I have "AIOE" and "Eternal September"
set up in Thunderbird. I can scan either server for new
items. If Eternal September is not working, I can
switch to AIOE and read news, and vice versa. All from the
left side bar menu.

Where the newsreaders differ, is in "compliance".

OE needed the addition of "OE Quote Fix", in order
to function properly, and prepare message that
were easy to read by other newsreader programs.

Windows Live Mail is not compliant either. It poorly
formats messages, and screws up quoting, so you can't
tell who said what in a message. WLM version 14 is
slightly better than WLM version 15, but not by much.

Thunderbird is reasonably good at being compliant
with message formatting. But it isn't exactly a
Swiss Army knife. Other newsreaders support "scoring"
and more elaborate filters. The filters that some
of the newsreaders have, are barely adequate.

If you recommend a newsreader to another person,
try to aim for a tool that will not irritate
respondents to that person. So they won't get
flamed, called "noob" or whatever

You can test the newsreaders, and try posting to
alt.test. Say, post with WLM 15, do a reply to
your own message with WLK 15, then look at the
result with Thunderbird, all without bothering
anybody. Alt.test is the perfect place for experiments.
Like determining whether your line wrap works
properly, the quoting worked OK, the .sig got
deleted properly, and so on.

HTH,
Paul
 
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Julie Bove
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      12-14-2012

"Paul" <> wrote in message
news:kafcfk$lof$...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Paul" <> wrote in message
>> news:kaemi4$ee$...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> How does one access NGs if you have one of these OSs? I will one day
>>>> need to get a new computer and my brother says I will no longer be able
>>>> to use OE. I am using Eternal September. Would this not be compatible
>>>> with whatever mail reader I would have to use with one of those
>>>> systems?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>> You could give Thunderbird a try.
>>>
>>> And there's more of them listed here.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_news_clients

>>
>> I already have Eternal September. The client isn't the problem. Are you
>> saying that Eternal September won't work with whatever newsreader comes
>> with Win7 or Win8? My friend has Win7 and he said he view in Windows
>> Live Mail.

>
> Newsreader programs are independent of the server.
>
> Thunderbird will work with Eternal September
> Windows Live Mail will work with Eternal September.
> OE (for older OS) will work with Eternal September.
> 40tude Dialog will work with Eternal September.
>
> Some of these readers, allow you to set up more than one
> server at a time. I have "AIOE" and "Eternal September"
> set up in Thunderbird. I can scan either server for new
> items. If Eternal September is not working, I can
> switch to AIOE and read news, and vice versa. All from the
> left side bar menu.


Strange. I got a message from them saying that AIOE switched to Eternal
September.
>
> Where the newsreaders differ, is in "compliance".
>
> OE needed the addition of "OE Quote Fix", in order
> to function properly, and prepare message that
> were easy to read by other newsreader programs.


I got Quote Fix but rarely have to use it.
>
> Windows Live Mail is not compliant either. It poorly
> formats messages, and screws up quoting, so you can't
> tell who said what in a message. WLM version 14 is
> slightly better than WLM version 15, but not by much.
>

Ah... I see...

> Thunderbird is reasonably good at being compliant
> with message formatting. But it isn't exactly a
> Swiss Army knife. Other newsreaders support "scoring"
> and more elaborate filters. The filters that some
> of the newsreaders have, are barely adequate.
>
> If you recommend a newsreader to another person,
> try to aim for a tool that will not irritate
> respondents to that person. So they won't get
> flamed, called "noob" or whatever


I see.
>
> You can test the newsreaders, and try posting to
> alt.test. Say, post with WLM 15, do a reply to
> your own message with WLK 15, then look at the
> result with Thunderbird, all without bothering
> anybody. Alt.test is the perfect place for experiments.
> Like determining whether your line wrap works
> properly, the quoting worked OK, the .sig got
> deleted properly, and so on.
>
> HTH,


I think the person who told me that I wouldn't be able to read newsgroups
didn't know what he was talking about.


 
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