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Peter Jason
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      11-30-2012
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:21:25 GMT, "Michael D.
Berger" <> wrote:

>I need a scanner primarily for old photos, but also for general
>paperwork. I am thinking of an Epson 700. Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike.


I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
9950F that now does not work with Win7.

Make sure the unit comes with negative holders and
the ability for reflective scanning. The unit's
software should be able to straighten the finished
scans, or else photoshop will do it.

I scanned thousands of photos & old 4x3 negatives,
and lots of old letters, wills, documents,
newspaper cuttings and xrays etc.

For slides I bought a separate unit especially
designed for this.

All these now reside on (several) DVDs. The
photos etc were borrowed from relatives and
returned to them with a DVD copy. Many old
color photos from the 1970s had faded, and
newspaper cuttings faded & brittle. Although I
saved thousands of photos/negatives, many more had
been thrown out. Many people will send old photos
to the dumpster once the old people die. Watch
out for this.
 
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David Taylor
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      11-30-2012
On 30/11/2012 00:26, Peter Jason wrote:
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> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.

[]

Try it using the Win-XP mode available for some versions of Windows-7.
Worked for me with a WebCam which didn't have Win-7/64 drivers.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
 
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Rob
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      11-30-2012
On 30/11/2012 11:26 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:21:25 GMT, "Michael D.
> Berger" <> wrote:
>
>> I need a scanner primarily for old photos, but also for general
>> paperwork. I am thinking of an Epson 700. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike.

>
> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.
>
> Make sure the unit comes with negative holders and
> the ability for reflective scanning. The unit's
> software should be able to straighten the finished
> scans, or else photoshop will do it.
>
> I scanned thousands of photos & old 4x3 negatives,
> and lots of old letters, wills, documents,
> newspaper cuttings and xrays etc.
>
> For slides I bought a separate unit especially
> designed for this.
>
> All these now reside on (several) DVDs. The
> photos etc were borrowed from relatives and
> returned to them with a DVD copy. Many old
> color photos from the 1970s had faded, and
> newspaper cuttings faded & brittle. Although I
> saved thousands of photos/negatives, many more had
> been thrown out. Many people will send old photos
> to the dumpster once the old people die. Watch
> out for this.
>



http://support-au.canon.com.au/conte...900336703.html

also

To make a Nikon scanner work on W7, (Nikon scanners are not supported
for W7) friend tried most things until we stumbled onto loading Vuescan
as an alternative. After loading Vuescan, Nikons own software worked.
So a file which Vuescan includes allowed it work.



Did read a thread here in which it recommended to replace the inf file

http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/how-to-r...opic80321.html


 
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DaveS
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      12-01-2012
On 11/29/2012 6:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.


I used to think there was no solution for software/hardware that won't
work on a newer operating system except to bite the bullet and buy new.
Now I know different.

I had an astronomy program that wouldn't install on my new Win7 laptop.
I found out about Oracle VM VirtualBox (free) which allows me to create
a virtual PC under Win7. I then installed WindowsXP on that virtual PC,
and installed the software (SkyGlobe) into that virtual PC. It works
just as if it was the original WinXP computer.

I haven't tried to use Win7 incompatible hardware with this setup, but I
do expect it would work, and is not hard to set up.

Dave S.


 
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DaveS
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      12-01-2012
On 12/1/2012 12:55 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2012.12.01 13:16 , DaveS wrote:
>> On 11/29/2012 6:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
>>> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.

>>
>> I used to think there was no solution for software/hardware that won't
>> work on a newer operating system except to bite the bullet and buy new.
>> Now I know different.
>>
>> I had an astronomy program that wouldn't install on my new Win7 laptop.
>> I found out about Oracle VM VirtualBox (free) which allows me to create
>> a virtual PC under Win7. I then installed WindowsXP on that virtual PC,
>> and installed the software (SkyGlobe) into that virtual PC. It works
>> just as if it was the original WinXP computer.

>
> I used to enjoy Skyglobe. Lean, mean easy to use... ( I had the DOS
> version which worked with some glitches under Win).
>
> Now I use Stellarium which is also available for Windows and Linux.
> (It's free). http://www.stellarium.org/
>
> The interface is strange (to say the least) but it has lots of
> capability - including adding satellites to the viewables (via TLE's).
>


Yes, I installed Stellarium when I thought I had no other options. Usage
is anything but transparent, so I gave up on it.

I think you would find that the DOS version of SkyGlobe would work just
fine on an XP machine, virtual or otherwise.
I don't think any version of SkyGlobe is currently available on the web,
so I could send it to you if you want.

Dave S.

 
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DaveS
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      12-01-2012
On 12/1/2012 4:48 PM, DaveS wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 12:55 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2012.12.01 13:16 , DaveS wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2012 6:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
>>>> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.
>>>
>>> I used to think there was no solution for software/hardware that won't
>>> work on a newer operating system except to bite the bullet and buy new.
>>> Now I know different.
>>>
>>> I had an astronomy program that wouldn't install on my new Win7 laptop.
>>> I found out about Oracle VM VirtualBox (free) which allows me to create
>>> a virtual PC under Win7. I then installed WindowsXP on that virtual PC,
>>> and installed the software (SkyGlobe) into that virtual PC. It works
>>> just as if it was the original WinXP computer.

>>
>> I used to enjoy Skyglobe. Lean, mean easy to use... ( I had the DOS
>> version which worked with some glitches under Win).
>>
>> Now I use Stellarium which is also available for Windows and Linux.
>> (It's free). http://www.stellarium.org/
>>
>> The interface is strange (to say the least) but it has lots of
>> capability - including adding satellites to the viewables (via TLE's).
>>

>
> Yes, I installed Stellarium when I thought I had no other options. Usage
> is anything but transparent, so I gave up on it.
>
> I think you would find that the DOS version of SkyGlobe would work just
> fine on an XP machine, virtual or otherwise.
> I don't think any version of SkyGlobe is currently available on the web,
> so I could send it to you if you want.
>
> Dave S.
>


Sorry, I jumped to conclusions without checking; SkyGlobe appears to be
available here:
http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html

Dave S.

 
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Wally
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      12-02-2012
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:16:27 -0600, DaveS <> wrote:

>On 11/29/2012 6:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
>> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.

>
>I used to think there was no solution for software/hardware that won't
>work on a newer operating system except to bite the bullet and buy new.
>Now I know different.
>
>I had an astronomy program that wouldn't install on my new Win7 laptop.
>I found out about Oracle VM VirtualBox (free) which allows me to create
>a virtual PC under Win7. I then installed WindowsXP on that virtual PC,
>and installed the software (SkyGlobe) into that virtual PC. It works
>just as if it was the original WinXP computer.


How did you install the Win XP? Isn't the license tied to a particular
computer?

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DaveS
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      12-02-2012
On 12/1/2012 11:21 PM, Wally wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:16:27 -0600, DaveS <> wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/2012 6:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> I did the same thing a while ago with a Canonscan
>>> 9950F that now does not work with Win7.

>>
>> I used to think there was no solution for software/hardware that won't
>> work on a newer operating system except to bite the bullet and buy new.
>> Now I know different.
>>
>> I had an astronomy program that wouldn't install on my new Win7 laptop.
>> I found out about Oracle VM VirtualBox (free) which allows me to create
>> a virtual PC under Win7. I then installed WindowsXP on that virtual PC,
>> and installed the software (SkyGlobe) into that virtual PC. It works
>> just as if it was the original WinXP computer.

>
> How did you install the Win XP? Isn't the license tied to a particular
> computer?
>
> W.
>

I used WinXP as an example.
I don't have a copy of XP that isn't being used on an existing computer,
but I do have such a copy of Win 2000, which is what I installed.

When you register XP after a new install, you are then tying it to a
specific computer.

Dave S.

 
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J. Clarke
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      12-03-2012
In article <2012120208452515394-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
>
> On 2012-12-02 08:23:24 -0800, Alan Browne
> <> said:
>
> > On 2012.12.02 11:10 , DaveS wrote:
> >
> >> When you register XP after a new install, you are then tying it to a
> >> specific computer.

> >
> > The WinXP I run under Fusion on the Mac is the same WinXP license I had
> > on 2 other machines (serially) and is itself predicated on owning a
> > Win98 license (checked from the install CD when installing WinXP).
> >
> > Doesn't seem to care what physical machine it is on at all.

>
> Yup!
> I have a version of XP running under Fusion on my iMac and on my MBP
> 17'' without issue.


The "issue" is activation. Once Windows is activated it's generally
happy. Microsoft has so many different licensing models that it's
difficult to keep track. Some tie a specific copy of Windows to a
specific motherboard, others allow it to be transferred to different
hardware as long as it is completely removed from the previous hardware,
some but not all allow it to be installed as both a real and a virtual
system on the same hardware at the same time. Very few if any allow
simultaneous activation on different hardware. Many also allow
downgrades--a Windows 7 retail license for example also allows you to
install Vista or XP using the same key, but you can only use one at a
time. Some Windows 7 licenses inlcude a virtual XP license--you can
download the virtual XP preconfigured straight from Microsoft.

The trouble is that the licensing is so complicated that their own techs
can't keep track of it, as a result of which their techs are generally
pretty generous about licensing--if you call in with a halfway
reasonable story they'll generally give you an activation code even if
your particular use violates the license as long as you aren't too
egregious about it--they'll generally activate an OEM copy on a
different motherboard for example even though that's technically a
violation of the OEM license. On the other hand if you've tried to
activate the same copy on 20 different pieces of hardware in the past
week they'll likely flag the serial number you're using.

I'm told that there is a time consideration as well--after some period
of months or years in which a serial number has not been reactivated it
gets reset in their system so it can be activated again on different
hardware--but I have never seen an official statement to that effect.

Anyway, XP doesn't care what machine it's running on, but Windows
Product Activation does care.






 
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Mayayana
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      12-03-2012


|
| The "issue" is activation. Once Windows is activated it's generally
| happy. Microsoft has so many different licensing models that it's
| difficult to keep track.

|Some tie a specific copy of Windows to a
| specific motherboard,

That's OEM version. It's a one-type use.


| others allow it to be transferred to different
| hardware as long as it is completely removed from the previous hardware,

That's the Full Version, not to be confused with
marketing that advertises "Full Version OEM". But
one still has to get it reactivated when it's moved to
a new PC. Typically,
full is about $200, OEM is about $100, Pro Full is
about $300. But it can vary a lot. Last I saw one could
still but a Dell copy of XP OEM. They buy licenses in
advance and apparently still have some XP license left.
(That arragement is what allows Microsoft to make crazy
claims like "We've sold 40 million copies of Win8! It's a hit!
They just sell a pile of license to the OEM companies and
then refuse to release activation statistics. That allows
them to "sell" any number of Windows license they like.
.... I'd love to know what sort of discount Dell and HP
are getting for that upfront purchase.)

| Very few if any allow
| simultaneous activation on different hardware.

The corporate version doesn't require activation. It's
licensed for a given number of machines. Though I read
recently that Win8, aimed at being a consumer version
tied completely to hardware, no longer offers the corporate
version.

| The trouble is that the licensing is so complicated that their own techs
| can't keep track of it, as a result of which their techs are generally
| pretty generous about licensing--if you call in with a halfway
| reasonable story they'll generally give you an activation code

The licensing is not really all that complicated, but it's
irritating and of questionable legality. MS will usually give
out an activation with a phone call because they don't
want to get people mad. Most people don't realize they're
paying repeatedly for the same license and shouldn't
have to. Buy tying Windows to OEM PCs those people
will be unlikely to understand the scam because they never
actually deal with activation and don't understand how
Windows gets installed, etc. So Bill Gates will
continue to collect the famous "PC tax" that he bragged
to Warren Buffett about. Not quibbling with the tiny percentage
of people who need reactivation is a small price to pay
in order to prevent "consumer pushback" about Product
Activation.

| Anyway, XP doesn't care what machine it's running on, but Windows
| Product Activation does care.
|

XP will care a great deal if the hardware isn't compatible.
If XP is moved to a new machine without first uninstalling
the motherboard drivers then it's unlikely you'll ever reach
the point of dealing with product activation.


 
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