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I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
can the cable be?

On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
> I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
> feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
> go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
> can the cable be?

If you use something to transmit from the sky box to the TV in another
room, then you have the problem that you'll need to change room to
change channels etc...
Don't re-route the cable if its set up neatly with a wall socket - leave
it where it is, get a two-way splitter, and run a new cable to the
second room. OTOH the sky installer who set up our dish etc was as
rough as guts and left a metre or two of loose cable coiled up behind a
curtain, no wall socket, and in that case I'd just re-route the cable
unless I expected to need to have a decoder back in the original
location some time.
I doubt you'll have a problem with cable length. You lose a few dB
signal strength each time you split the signal, but not a big deal with
a two or three way splitter. You might have a problem fitting new plugs
to cables - most of the plugs and sockets need to be fitted to the cable
using a crimping tool - I suggest you pay the $15 or whatever it costs
for the tool if you can't borrow one. The plugs tend to disintegrate if
you try using pliers to crimp them.

On 13/11/2012 11:20 a.m., Me wrote:
> On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
>> I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
>> feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
>> go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
>> can the cable be?
>
> If you use something to transmit from the sky box to the TV in another
> room, then you have the problem that you'll need to change room to
> change channels etc...
> Don't re-route the cable if its set up neatly with a wall socket - leave
> it where it is, get a two-way splitter, and run a new cable to the
> second room. OTOH the sky installer who set up our dish etc was as
> rough as guts and left a metre or two of loose cable coiled up behind a
> curtain, no wall socket, and in that case I'd just re-route the cable
> unless I expected to need to have a decoder back in the original
> location some time.
> I doubt you'll have a problem with cable length. You lose a few dB
> signal strength each time you split the signal, but not a big deal with
> a two or three way splitter. You might have a problem fitting new plugs
> to cables - most of the plugs and sockets need to be fitted to the cable
> using a crimping tool - I suggest you pay the $15 or whatever it costs
> for the tool if you can't borrow one. The plugs tend to disintegrate if
> you try using pliers to crimp them.

Forgot to mention, if you get a splitter, make sure you get one for
satellite - not a UHF TV one. The look identical, and are the same
price, but the UHF one isn't rated for satellite frequencies. You can
get them at Mitre 10 etc, only about $12. The one you need should
probably be marked "900-2400 MHz"

On 13/11/2012 11:20 a.m., Me wrote:
> On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
>> I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
>> feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
>> go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
>> can the cable be?
>
> If you use something to transmit from the sky box to the TV in another
> room, then you have the problem that you'll need to change room to
> change channels etc...
> Don't re-route the cable if its set up neatly with a wall socket - leave
> it where it is, get a two-way splitter, and run a new cable to the
> second room. OTOH the sky installer who set up our dish etc was as
> rough as guts and left a metre or two of loose cable coiled up behind a
> curtain, no wall socket, and in that case I'd just re-route the cable
> unless I expected to need to have a decoder back in the original
> location some time.
> I doubt you'll have a problem with cable length. You lose a few dB
> signal strength each time you split the signal, but not a big deal with
> a two or three way splitter. You might have a problem fitting new plugs
> to cables - most of the plugs and sockets need to be fitted to the cable
> using a crimping tool - I suggest you pay the $15 or whatever it costs
> for the tool if you can't borrow one. The plugs tend to disintegrate if
> you try using pliers to crimp them.

You can leave the decoder where it is, & get a 2-way wireless
transmitter that sends the AV to another room, and receives the
infra-red Sky remote signals back to change the channels. I've been
using one for years to duplicate SKY on a TV in the bedroom. You just
have to remember to take the remote with you when you change rooms. From
memory mine (GigaAir) cost about $90.You can add receivers ($40) & have
TV in as many rooms as you have TVs. Might be cheaper than rerouting the
cable. Certainly more flexible.

In article <k7rm7q$ina$>, Gib Bogle <> wrote:
>I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
>feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
>go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
>can the cable be?

I saw a wireless repeater recently in (IIRC ?) hardly normal which (again
IIRC) was a box in each room enabling location change without wiring ?

On 13/11/2012 12:54 p.m., Ummmmmmm....... wrote:
> On 13/11/2012 11:20 a.m., Me wrote:
>> On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
>>> I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
>>> feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
>>> go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
>>> can the cable be?
>>
>> If you use something to transmit from the sky box to the TV in another
>> room, then you have the problem that you'll need to change room to
>> change channels etc...
>> Don't re-route the cable if its set up neatly with a wall socket - leave
>> it where it is, get a two-way splitter, and run a new cable to the
>> second room. OTOH the sky installer who set up our dish etc was as
>> rough as guts and left a metre or two of loose cable coiled up behind a
>> curtain, no wall socket, and in that case I'd just re-route the cable
>> unless I expected to need to have a decoder back in the original
>> location some time.
>> I doubt you'll have a problem with cable length. You lose a few dB
>> signal strength each time you split the signal, but not a big deal with
>> a two or three way splitter. You might have a problem fitting new plugs
>> to cables - most of the plugs and sockets need to be fitted to the cable
>> using a crimping tool - I suggest you pay the $15 or whatever it costs
>> for the tool if you can't borrow one. The plugs tend to disintegrate if
>> you try using pliers to crimp them.
>
> You can leave the decoder where it is, & get a 2-way wireless
> transmitter that sends the AV to another room, and receives the
> infra-red Sky remote signals back to change the channels. I've been
> using one for years to duplicate SKY on a TV in the bedroom. You just
> have to remember to take the remote with you when you change rooms. From
> memory mine (GigaAir) cost about $90.You can add receivers ($40) & have
> TV in as many rooms as you have TVs. Might be cheaper than rerouting the
> cable. Certainly more flexible.
Ahh - okay - that would be handy.
The cost to add a splitter isn't high - hardware including cable is
pretty cheap. Whether Gib Bogle likes climbing around in the roof
space, which would probably include sitting around up there for a while
cutting and fitting plugs on the cables in the dark is another question.

I put in a splitter at our place so I could use two boxes, but access
was good - >2m crawl space in the basement. It was only a 1/2 hour job.

On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 12:55:10 UTC+13, Ummmmmmm....... wrote:
> On 13/11/2012 11:20 a.m., Me wrote:
>
> > On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
>
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>
>
> You can leave the decoder where it is, & get a 2-way wireless
> transmitter that sends the AV to another room, and receives the
> infra-red Sky remote signals back to change the channels. I've been
> using one for years to duplicate SKY on a TV in the bedroom. You just
> have to remember to take the remote with you when you change rooms. From
> memory mine (GigaAir) cost about $90.You can add receivers ($40) & have
> TV in as many rooms as you have TVs. Might be cheaper than rerouting the
> cable. Certainly more flexible.

I've had little luck with those things, even the 5.8Ghz ones. The signal has always been degraded and the sound suffers from pops and clicks. Have tried both 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz, as well has switching the channels within the bands. These ones are all composite video + L/R audio plus IR going back. Composite video always looks bad on big screen TVs.

There are now HDMI wireless senders and the prices are dropping to a few hundred bucks. They might be worth a try for big TVs.

On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 14:19:00 UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
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>
> There are now HDMI wireless senders and the prices are dropping to a few hundred bucks. They might be worth a try for big TVs.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=ADP8WR2422

On 13/11/2012 12:54 p.m., Ummmmmmm....... wrote:

> You can leave the decoder where it is, & get a 2-way wireless
> transmitter that sends the AV to another room, and receives the
> infra-red Sky remote signals back to change the channels. I've been
> using one for years to duplicate SKY on a TV in the bedroom. You just
> have to remember to take the remote with you when you change rooms. From
> memory mine (GigaAir) cost about $90.You can add receivers ($40) & have
> TV in as many rooms as you have TVs. Might be cheaper than rerouting the
> cable. Certainly more flexible.

The flexibility is attractive, for sure. A bit of poking around shows
that some people share JohnO's experience, though. It sounds a bit
chancy, maybe depending on the device and also on the house layout. The
requirement at this stage is just to view the TV in the room next to the
decoder (only a single wall) so that aspect might be OK.

On 13/11/2012 11:20 a.m., Me wrote:
> On 13/11/2012 9:29 a.m., Gib Bogle wrote:
>> I want to move the TV and Sky decoder to another room. Is there any
>> feasible alternative to rerouting the antenna coax cable? I'll have to
>> go up into the roof space, along and down into the next room. How long
>> can the cable be?
>
> If you use something to transmit from the sky box to the TV in another
> room, then you have the problem that you'll need to change room to
> change channels etc...
> Don't re-route the cable if its set up neatly with a wall socket - leave
> it where it is, get a two-way splitter, and run a new cable to the
> second room. OTOH the sky installer who set up our dish etc was as
> rough as guts and left a metre or two of loose cable coiled up behind a
> curtain, no wall socket, and in that case I'd just re-route the cable
> unless I expected to need to have a decoder back in the original
> location some time.
> I doubt you'll have a problem with cable length. You lose a few dB
> signal strength each time you split the signal, but not a big deal with
> a two or three way splitter. You might have a problem fitting new plugs
> to cables - most of the plugs and sockets need to be fitted to the cable
> using a crimping tool - I suggest you pay the $15 or whatever it costs
> for the tool if you can't borrow one. The plugs tend to disintegrate if
> you try using pliers to crimp them.

Thanks Me. Our installer was one of the rough-as-guts fraternity - no
wall socket. I might be able to get a plug and socket fitted to a cable
by the workshop guys at work, or borrow a crimper from them.

Now I have to choose between the coax and wireless options. I'm bad at
making these kinds of decisions.