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      11-01-2012
In article <k6ucn8$pqk$(E-Mail Removed)>, David Taylor
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> > apple geniuses are *not* low paid workers. more ignorance.
> >
> > salaries vary, but they generally make about *double* what a sales
> > specialist in the very same store makes, possibly more.
> >
> > the title may be cutesy, but they've earned it.

>
> Must be an awfully complicated product that it takes a genius to explain
> it to Joe Public! I thought these things were supposed to be easy, to
> be intuitive? <G>


they are, but you'd be surprised how confused some people are about
computers and other tech products. not everyone is a geek.

plus, stuff breaks and they know how to diagnose problems and get them
fixed, many times for free and even out of warranty. that's actually
most of what they do.

part of apple's success is filling the needs of those who aren't geeks
and aren't interested in becoming a geek just to use a product.
criticize it all you want, but their success tells a different story.
 
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      11-01-2012
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony cooper
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> >> >>apple calls them an apple genius.
> >> >
> >> >>microsoft copied the idea (nothing new there) and calls them a guru.
> >> >>
> >> [Snort!]
> >>
> >> Long before "apple" was anything more than the name of fruit, stores
> >> employed people to handle sales transactions and advise customers on
> >> how to use products. They called them "sales clerks".
> >>
> >> Apple copied the idea and gave them the high-faluting title of
> >> "genius".

> >
> >wrong, as usual. you have no idea what you're talking about.
> >
> >the apple geniuses are *not* sales clerks.

>
> >in fact, they don't do sales at all. they are *tech* *support*. that's
> >all they do. they diagnose hardware and software problems. they answer
> >questions from users. they fix things.

>
> A "sales clerk" is anyone in the store that assists customers and
> potential customers in any way.


so if the manager assists a customer, he's really just a lowly sales
clerk?

you don't get to define what the job titles mean.

an apple genius is *not* a sales clerk. they have an entirely different
job, different skills and different pay.

> They don't need to ring the sale to
> be a sales clerk.


there may not even *be* a sale from a genius. more than likely, there
won't be.

and you say you're neutral about apple. what a ****ing joke. you are a
liar.

> >if you want purchase advice, you talk to someone *else* in the store,
> >not a genius.

>
> So the "genius" doesn't say "You need to add a {insert product name}
> to do what you want to do"?


not usually. the genius is for fixing things, not buying things.

typically a genius will diagnose hardware that is not working properly.
if the fix is simple, they'll do it on the spot and you'll walk out
with a functioning device, possibly even a new replacement. if it's not
a simple fix, they take the product to be repaired and it's fixed
usually same or next day, possibly longer if they don't have parts on
hand. i once dropped off my laptop in the morning and they called me
around noon to pick it up. let's see a sales clerk do that in 3 hours.

on occasion, they might suggest buying a product, such as an external
hard drive for backups, but that does not in any way make them a sales
clerk.
 
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      11-01-2012
In article <k6ue1v$3k7$(E-Mail Removed)>, Mayayana
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> | > No, the philosophy with many application approaches today is to
> | > obscure the file system. You do it in LIghtroom as well. Lightroom is
> | > a way for you to forget about the actual files and instead manage the
> | > *photos*. The files are just the container.
> |
> | that's what a lot of people don't understand. things are changing.
> | they're stuck in their old ways of how it used to be done and *very*
> | resistant to change.
> |
> | file system access is eventually going away for almost all use
> | scenarios. dedicated apps do a much better job.
> |
> | users don't want to deal with individual files, they want to deal with
> | photos, songs, movies, contacts, etc. it doesn't matter where the
> | actual data is. it could be on the device or it could be in the cloud.
>
> Admit it. You stole that text from an Apple or
> Microsoft cloud-mania press release, didn't you?


nope.

and i notice you are ignoring non-apple products that do it, like adobe
lightroom.

it's more of the usual, when apple does something it's bad, but when
others do it, it's perfectly fine.

> I don't know about "users",


you're right, you don't.

> but I want a file manager.


that's nice. most people don't. you're a geek. you're not a typical
user.

worse, you can't see past that. you think that your way is the one true
way. you are completely blind to what other people might want or need.

the reality is that many users are very confused with file managers.
it's a horrible and very primitive way to manage data. it may have been
necessary early on but things are fortunately moving beyond that now.
where a file is *does not matter*. what matters is content.

ever hear users say things like "where did that file i just downloaded
go?" "i don't remember where i put xyz" file systems are confusing to
people.

> I don't want software/tech companies to decide what I
> want or need. I want them to give me tools, not services.
> And it does matter to me whether my data is in the cloud.


then don't put it in the cloud. easy enough. other people want their
data in the cloud. what you want is not what others might want or need.

you do understand that, don't you?

why are you insisting your way is the only proper way? why are you
against companies (not just apple) offering services that people *want*
and use that makes them more productive?

look at google docs. it's very successful, so successful that microsoft
took notice. people *want* stuff in the cloud.

> If you're happy to be ignorant of where your actual files
> are,


that's a *huge* distortion of what i said. in fact, it's an outright
lie.

i'm not ignorant of where my files are. it just doesn't matter all that
much. i don't care what folder photos are in, i just want to see photos
of the last trip i took. some of my music is on my laptop and some is
on a shared network drive. if i want to listen to a song, i don't need
to know which song is where, i just pick the song i want and listen to
it.

the computer does the work *for* me, not the other way around. for some
reason, a lot of people want to do the work themselves, when the
computer can do a *much* better job in a *lot* less time.

> and happy to have Apple tell you what you want*,
> the above may all be OK in your mind.


apple doesn't tell anyone what they want or need. they offer products
and services, just like any other company does. people are free to use
any or none of them, as they see fit.

given their huge success, it's clear a lot of people like what they
offer.

you said you bought an android device. you do realize, don't you, that
google tracks what you do and makes money that way? just look at google
now for an example of what google knows about people.

> But to fault everyone
> who sees things otherwise indicates a kind of denial.


i would say that about you.

you can't accept that there are other ways of doing things than how
*you* want, nor can you accept that things are changing.
 
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      11-01-2012
In article <k6uek7$7k9$(E-Mail Removed)>, Mayayana
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> | apple geniuses are *not* low paid workers. more ignorance.
>
> http://osxdaily.com/2010/10/05/apple-store-pay/
>
> According to that, $17/hour is typical.


no, according to that link, *one* person, aviv hadar, was offered a
*starting* pay of $17/hr in 2008. that was *four* years ago.

also from that link,
€ Apple Genius Average Salary: $37,954
€ Apple Genius High-End Salary: $49,000 * with more experience and
working in a larger city (New York, San Francisco, etc), Apple
Genius¹s earn significantly more

$49k is quite a bit more than $17/hr. what 'sales clerks' make $49k?

and this link says that the *average* is $45k, which is quite a bit
more than $37.9k above.
<http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-apple+genius>

> That's not
> minimum wage, but it seems awfully low to me.


it's higher than a typical 'sales clerk'.

if you think sales clerks get anywhere close to that, you're delusional.

> It's
> basically a good pay rate for unskilled labor.... But
> don't let me talk you out of applying for the job.


and i said it before, an apple genius is *not* unskilled labor, but
when have facts mattered to you.
 
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      11-01-2012
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony cooper
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> nospam's suggestion that Microsoft copied Apple in giving an employee
> a designated responsibility and a cutesy title, and this is somehow
> worth pointing out, is rather ridiculous in my opinion.


nothing ridiculous about it. microsoft blatantly copied the apple store
in almost every detail. have you even been in one?

if you can't see this, you're blind.

> It's been going on for years in all sorts of stores and all Apple has
> done is come up with a different title for a person with designated
> responsibilities. They don't deserve a patent on the idea.


they didn't patent it.

> nospam will say I'm a "hater" of Apple because I'm not impressed that
> they've done the same thing that other stores have done for years in
> designating people according to responsibility, but the only thing I
> hate is that he trumpets this as being something that if any other
> store does the same thing that it's copying.


that's a huge twist of what i said.
 
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      11-01-2012
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony cooper
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> "Sales specialist"? Another cutesy designation. If any other store
> calls their sales clerks "sales specialists" would they be copying
> Apple?


missing the point, again. no surprise.
 
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      11-01-2012
On Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:31:17 UTC, nospam wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>
> DanP <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > Can you point out what I did wrong?

>
> > >

>
> > > i don't use linux and have no idea what you did wrong.

>
> >

>
> > So why are you saying I did something wrong?

>
>
>
> because it failed to copy partway. that's not normal.


Hit ctrl+c on source, went to destination folder, hit ctrl+v, saw the "copying files" message with the progress bar going up, sat watching TV, went to check on progress and saw the copying progress stuck.

Twice.

Now you tell me what I did wrong.


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      11-01-2012
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
DanP <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Now you tell me what I did wrong.


choose linux for a desktop os.
 
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      11-01-2012
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:16:44 -0700, nospam <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony cooper
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> nospam's suggestion that Microsoft copied Apple in giving an employee
>> a designated responsibility and a cutesy title, and this is somehow
>> worth pointing out, is rather ridiculous in my opinion.

>
>nothing ridiculous about it. microsoft blatantly copied the apple store
>in almost every detail. have you even been in one?
>
>if you can't see this, you're blind.
>
>> It's been going on for years in all sorts of stores and all Apple has
>> done is come up with a different title for a person with designated
>> responsibilities. They don't deserve a patent on the idea.

>
>they didn't patent it.
>
>> nospam will say I'm a "hater" of Apple because I'm not impressed that
>> they've done the same thing that other stores have done for years in
>> designating people according to responsibility, but the only thing I
>> hate is that he trumpets this as being something that if any other
>> store does the same thing that it's copying.

>
>that's a huge twist of what i said.


That's exactly what you've done in this very post. Right above.

Lowe's stores and Home Depot store layouts are about the same except
for the location of the restrooms. Walgreen's and CVS stores are
about the same. Kangaroo stores and 7/11's are about the same.

What's the big deal? Who, besides a petty little sniper of everything
that isn't Apple, gives a rat's ass?

You sound like a pre-teenage girl fretting that Suzy bought the same
blouse that you bought.

What are you doing in a Microsoft store anyway?


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      11-01-2012
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:20:14 -0700, Savageduck
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>On 2012-11-01 11:49:10 -0700, tony cooper <(E-Mail Removed)> said:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:13:17 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-11-01 09:31:13 -0700, nospam <(E-Mail Removed)> said:
>>>
>>>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, tony cooper
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> apple calls them an apple genius.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> microsoft copied the idea (nothing new there) and calls them a guru.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> [Snort!]
>>>>>
>>>>> Long before "apple" was anything more than the name of fruit, stores
>>>>> employed people to handle sales transactions and advise customers on
>>>>> how to use products. They called them "sales clerks".
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple copied the idea and gave them the high-faluting title of
>>>>> "genius".
>>>>
>>>> wrong, as usual. you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>>>
>>>> the apple geniuses are *not* sales clerks.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> The kids in the blue shirt wandering around the Apple stores are
>>> effectively sales clerks. They are not the store's "Apple Geniuses",
>>> not every employee at the Apple stores is burdened with that title.
>>>
>>> The "Apple Geniuses" are the individuals found behind the customer
>>> support counter, or "Genius Bar", and they are usually somewhat more
>>> mature than the part-time student sales folks wandering the floor. Many
>>> of the Apple Stores, depending on size, only have three or four "Apple
>>> Geniuses" in the store at any time.
>>>

>> OK, if you don't want to include the geniuses in the "sales clerk"
>> category, then what is so special about having someone in a store that
>> has a designated responsibility and that any other store is considered
>> to be "copying" that idea if they also have a person in the store that
>> has a designated responsibility?

>
>Nothing.
>
>The "Apple Geniuses" are technical support specialists and even they
>have their sub-specialities. Their role is to personalize the tech
>support experience most companies leave to telephone support and a
>voicemail tree today. One of the things Apple excels at is customer
>support and it is no surprise that some tech companies do their best to
>emulate them in that way. I don't know about Microsoft as I don't use
>their OS in any serious way, but I have had cause to speak to one of
>their Mac division support reps who was nothing but courteous and
>helpful and provided me the solution I needed. I have had similar good
>experiences from Adobe and NIK Software, and Sharp Electronics. There
>are many folks actually doing a good job out there regardless of
>individual corporate biases.
>
>Today most department stores do not have individuals who can answer
>questions or provide solutions to product technical issues regarding
>electronic and other consumer products. Inevitably you will be refereed
>to the manufacturer or distributer support line or web site. Apple
>bucked that trend by introducing the "Apple Genius" and some outlets
>such as Best Buy and the defunct Circuit City, and the Microsoft stores
>followed suit.


I agree with all of that. What I don't agree with is castigating
Microsoft for also bucking the trend. Is there something wrong with
moving with the times?

People like nospam would criticize Microsoft for not providing the
same services you describe above, but then they criticize Microsoft
for doing it by claiming they are "copying" Apple. That doesn't make
sense to me, and just makes people like nospam seem petty.





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