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"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:16:02 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce Sinclair" < > wrote
>>in message news:k64js1$i0b$...
>>> In article <k61onq$4ci$>, "Geopelia"
>>> <>
>>> wrote:
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>I'm going to have to get another program when XP stops getting updates
>>>>etc,
>>>>so the computer man will set it all up.
>>>
>>> Actually you don't. You can continue to use XP if you want to without
>>> the
>>> 'updates'.
>>> If it works now, it's likely to continue to work ... and XP is one of
>>> MS'
>>> better offerings. Yes, it's old ... but we know that old isn't
>>> necessarily
>>> bad ... don't we.
>>>
>>
>>I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some years before
>>the
>>computer firm changed it.
>>What a huge improvement! The computer is about 14 years old.
>>
>>The updates come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them
>>do.
>>
>
>
> They come in once a month Plus your computer is to OLD to run the latest
> Windows.

Is that Windows 8? I don't think I want that, it looks very complicated.
Like a mobile phone, we don't have one of those.

Perhaps they will do a Windows 9 that anyone can use.

The update people say what the computer needs. I think I've got enough SP
versions

Something comes in from Microsoft, or I can get it from the Start menu.

Trend Micro has just sent me a disc for 2013. I haven't installed it yet.
I managed to install the last one, and if I get stuck the computer man will
do it.

If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck some
more memory in it last time.

On 2012-10-23, Bruce Sinclair < > wrote:
> In article <k671ek$ue$>, "Geopelia" <> wrote:
> (snip)
>>
>>I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some years before the
>>computer firm changed it.
>>What a huge improvement! The computer is about 14 years old.

Kool! An old pice of hardware still delivering the goods. I read a few ng
and many of the posters ahve new hardware, and some do not.

>>
>>The updates come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them do.
>
> Really ? First thing I do is to turn auto updates off. I want to decide what
> gets 'updated' ... and I sure wouldn't want to leave that choice to MS.
>
Good on you Bruce. However have you considered, Geo, as a user; vs the enemy
out there?

While Ms Windows is off my shopping list, I have to say that in recent years
she has got somewhat better at helping the average Jane Doe from the attacks
of the nsaty people out there.

So, in my view, Geo; go with the updates. The enemy adpats, and users (OS)
have to also.

Software programmes, like evolution, are never completed.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:23:04 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
wrote:

>
>"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:16:02 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce Sinclair" < > wrote
>>>in message news:k64js1$i0b$...
>>>> In article <k61onq$4ci$>, "Geopelia"
>>>> <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>I'm going to have to get another program when XP stops getting updates
>>>>>etc,
>>>>>so the computer man will set it all up.
>>>>
>>>> Actually you don't. You can continue to use XP if you want to without
>>>> the
>>>> 'updates'.
>>>> If it works now, it's likely to continue to work ... and XP is one of
>>>> MS'
>>>> better offerings. Yes, it's old ... but we know that old isn't
>>>> necessarily
>>>> bad ... don't we.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some years before
>>>the
>>>computer firm changed it.
>>>What a huge improvement! The computer is about 14 years old.
>>>
>>>The updates come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them
>>>do.
>>>
>>
>>
>> They come in once a month Plus your computer is to OLD to run the latest
>> Windows.
>
>Is that Windows 8? I don't think I want that, it looks very complicated.
>Like a mobile phone, we don't have one of those.
>
>Perhaps they will do a Windows 9 that anyone can use.
>
>The update people say what the computer needs. I think I've got enough SP
>versions
>
>Something comes in from Microsoft, or I can get it from the Start menu.
>
>Trend Micro has just sent me a disc for 2013. I haven't installed it yet.
>I managed to install the last one, and if I get stuck the computer man will
>do it.
>
>If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck some
>more memory in it last time.
>



XP should have SP3 installed.

Forget WIN 8 no one likes it..

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:23:04 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
wrote:

>
>"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:16:02 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce Sinclair" < > wrote
>>>in message news:k64js1$i0b$...
>>>> In article <k61onq$4ci$>, "Geopelia"
>>>> <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>I'm going to have to get another program when XP stops getting updates
>>>>>etc,
>>>>>so the computer man will set it all up.
>>>>
>>>> Actually you don't. You can continue to use XP if you want to without
>>>> the
>>>> 'updates'.
>>>> If it works now, it's likely to continue to work ... and XP is one of
>>>> MS'
>>>> better offerings. Yes, it's old ... but we know that old isn't
>>>> necessarily
>>>> bad ... don't we.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some years before
>>>the
>>>computer firm changed it.
>>>What a huge improvement! The computer is about 14 years old.
>>>
>>>The updates come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them
>>>do.
>>>
>>
>>
>> They come in once a month Plus your computer is to OLD to run the latest
>> Windows.
>
>Is that Windows 8? I don't think I want that, it looks very complicated.
>Like a mobile phone, we don't have one of those.
>
>Perhaps they will do a Windows 9 that anyone can use.
>
>The update people say what the computer needs. I think I've got enough SP
>versions
>
>Something comes in from Microsoft, or I can get it from the Start menu.
>
>Trend Micro has just sent me a disc for 2013. I haven't installed it yet.
>I managed to install the last one, and if I get stuck the computer man will
>do it.
>
>If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck some
>more memory in it last time.
>


If you want to think of Windows 7 MS has a program to test your PC if
it can work on it..

On 2012-10-24, Geopelia <> wrote:
>
> If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck some
> more memory in it last time.
>
Wise choice, more RAM is always good. Like old people old computers benefit
from more memory

"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:23:04 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:16:02 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce Sinclair" < >
>>>>wrote
>>>>in message news:k64js1$i0b$...
>>>>> In article <k61onq$4ci$>, "Geopelia"
>>>>> <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm going to have to get another program when XP stops getting updates
>>>>>>etc,
>>>>>>so the computer man will set it all up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually you don't. You can continue to use XP if you want to without
>>>>> the
>>>>> 'updates'.
>>>>> If it works now, it's likely to continue to work ... and XP is one of
>>>>> MS'
>>>>> better offerings. Yes, it's old ... but we know that old isn't
>>>>> necessarily
>>>>> bad ... don't we.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some years before
>>>>the
>>>>computer firm changed it.
>>>>What a huge improvement! The computer is about 14 years old.
>>>>
>>>>The updates come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them
>>>>do.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They come in once a month Plus your computer is to OLD to run the latest
>>> Windows.
>>
>>Is that Windows 8? I don't think I want that, it looks very complicated.
>>Like a mobile phone, we don't have one of those.
>>
>>Perhaps they will do a Windows 9 that anyone can use.
>>
>>The update people say what the computer needs. I think I've got enough SP
>>versions
>>
>>Something comes in from Microsoft, or I can get it from the Start menu.
>>
>>Trend Micro has just sent me a disc for 2013. I haven't installed it yet.
>>I managed to install the last one, and if I get stuck the computer man
>>will
>>do it.
>>
>>If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck
>>some
>>more memory in it last time.
>>
>
>
>
> XP should have SP3 installed.
>
> Forget WIN 8 no one likes it..

Yes. it's got SP3 now.

The last disc I got from Trend Micro checked the computer to see if I had
got the necessary things.
I suppose this 2013 disc will do the same.
I have to pay again in March 2013. I expect they will let me know.

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On 2012-10-24, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>
>> If the computer is too old, the computer man will add things. He stuck
>> some
>> more memory in it last time.
>>
> Wise choice, more RAM is always good. Like old people old computers
> benefit
> from more memory

I stick things in Favourites if I think I can't remember them.
Or look up what people tell me here.

On 24/10/12 17:09, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
> In article <50872bcf$>, Enkidu
> <> wrote:
>> On 24/10/12 12:12, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
>>> In article <k671ek$ue$>, "Geopelia"
>>> <>
>> wrote:
>>> (snip)
>>>> I started with Windows ME. Then XP came in, but it was some
>>>> years before the computer firm changed it. What a huge
>>>> improvement! The computer is about 14 years old. The updates
>>>> come in about once a week.I haven't a clue what most of them
>>>> do.
>>> Really ? First thing I do is to turn auto updates off. I want to
>>> decide what gets 'updated' ... and I sure wouldn't want to leave
>>> that choice to MS.
>> Do you actually check what each one is for, Bruce?
>
> Um, yes.
>
>> I used to do that back in the days of Windows 95/98. But I've not
>> done it for ages. I just accept the lot. These day there is very
>> very rarely a dud.
>
> But ... sometimes there is. I hasten to add that the update conveyor
> is one of the reasons I abandoned windows for home use.
>
I've not had an issue in many years. I used to get them all the time.

Cheers,

Cliff

On 26/10/12 07:03, EMB wrote:
> On 25/10/2012 10:00 a.m., Enkidu wrote:
>> On 24/10/12 17:09, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
>>> In article <50872bcf$>, Enkidu
>>> <> wrote:
>
>>>> I used to do that back in the days of Windows 95/98. But I've not
>>>> done it for ages. I just accept the lot. These day there is very
>>>> very rarely a dud.
>>>
>>> But ... sometimes there is. I hasten to add that the update conveyor
>>> is one of the reasons I abandoned windows for home use.
>>>
>> I've not had an issue in many years. I used to get them all the time.
>
> I still check them all for both desktop and server OSs - there's not
> much option to do otherwise at large enterprise level as enough issues
> still arise* to have a business impact.
>
> * badly behaved old apps which should have been replaced years ago have
> a habit of breaking.
>
Yeah, agreed, but Geo's not a large enterprise!

Cheers,

Cliff

"Enkidu" <> wrote in message
news:508a07b1$...
> On 26/10/12 07:03, EMB wrote:
>> On 25/10/2012 10:00 a.m., Enkidu wrote:
>>> On 24/10/12 17:09, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
>>>> In article <50872bcf$>, Enkidu
>>>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I used to do that back in the days of Windows 95/98. But I've not
>>>>> done it for ages. I just accept the lot. These day there is very
>>>>> very rarely a dud.
>>>>
>>>> But ... sometimes there is. I hasten to add that the update conveyor
>>>> is one of the reasons I abandoned windows for home use.
>>>>
>>> I've not had an issue in many years. I used to get them all the time.
>>
>> I still check them all for both desktop and server OSs - there's not
>> much option to do otherwise at large enterprise level as enough issues
>> still arise* to have a business impact.
>>
>> * badly behaved old apps which should have been replaced years ago have
>> a habit of breaking.
> >
> Yeah, agreed, but Geo's not a large enterprise!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff

Facebook sometimes wants to put in apps. I don't know what apps are so don't
agree.