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Robert Coe wrote,on my timestamp of 28/09/2012 12:19 PM:

>
> And we should have gotten that you're simply gibbering. "Last you heard", the
> 6D will be available in less than three months? <guffaw!> What did you "hear",
> and from whom? And how often has that source been right?

Ssshhhhhhh! You're interrupting the stream of "voices"!

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:10:01 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
<> wrote:
: Robert Coe <> wrote:
:
: > And we should have gotten that you're simply gibbering. "Last you heard", the
: > 6D will be available in less than three months? <guffaw!> What did you "hear",
: > and from whom? And how often has that source been right?
:
: Official Canon press release:
: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_...01e0248065d8c4
:
: Reputable sellers:
: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=892349
:
: News on the internet:
: http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/17/canon-eos-6d-dslr/
: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/17/can...aps-c-at-2099/
: http://www.techradar.com/news/photog...eos-6d-1097835
: http://mashable.com/2012/09/17/canon-eos-6d/
: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/17/33...te-price-specs
: http://www.gizmag.com/canon-eos-6d/24164/
: http://gizmodo.com/5943763/canon-eos...rame-dslr-ever
: http://www.petapixel.com/2012/09/17/...ll-frame-dslr/
: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/N...aspx?News=3063
: http://seamlessphoto.com/beinspired/...ll-frame-dslr/
: http://www.videouniversity.com/canon...gps-and-wi-fi/
: http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/articl...ll-frame_dslr/
: http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/Te...in/ba-p/385422
: http://www.cnet.com.au/hands-on-with...-339341530.htm
: http://www.bjp-online.com/british-jo...me-digital-slr
: http://www.steves-digicams.com/camer...6d-review.html
: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news...full-frame-slr
: http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/20...ate-confirmed/
: http://www.pluggedin.co.uk/article/c...me-dslr-battle
: (and that's just a few)
:
: Even wikipedia has that info (*and* a link to the press release):
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_6D
:
: Who's simply gibbering, Robert?

I guess we'll find that out when the camera actually becomes available. Just
for background, I'd point out that the new 24-70 lens, announced with such
fanfare several months ago, is still available only to selected fanboys. Even
the Canon site has only one (1) customer review.

And how long did it take before the 1DX was finally available? If it takes
them that long to accommodate a $7000 customer, how long do you suppose a
$2000 customer will have to wait?

Obviously, I could be wrong. If it comes to that, I'll admit it.

Bob

Robert Coe <> wrote:
>Just
>for background, I'd point out that the new 24-70 lens, announced with such
>fanfare several months ago, is still available only to selected fanboys. Even
>the Canon site has only one (1) customer review.
>
>And how long did it take before the 1DX was finally available? If it takes
>them that long to accommodate a $7000 customer, how long do you suppose a
>$2000 customer will have to wait?


Are you considering buying one, Bob?

Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 28/09/2012 10:10 PM:

>
> Official Canon press release:
> http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_...01e0248065d8c4
>
> Who's simply gibbering, Robert?

You. "expected to be available" is *NOT* the same as "will be available".
Ever heard of FUD and BULLSHIT?

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:39:10 +0100, Bruce <> wrote:
: Robert Coe <> wrote:
: >Just
: >for background, I'd point out that the new 24-70 lens, announced with such
: >fanfare several months ago, is still available only to selected fanboys.
: >Even the Canon site has only one (1) customer review.
: >
: >And how long did it take before the 1DX was finally available? If it takes
: >them that long to accommodate a $7000 customer, how long do you suppose a
: >$2000 customer will have to wait?
:
:
: Are you considering buying one, Bob?

The 6D? No, I don't think so. I've got the FF itch out of my system for the
time being. And two things bother me about the 6D: It lacks the 5D3's AF
system; and my gut tells me it may also lack AF microadjustment, which
experience tells me is necessary to get acceptable performance out of some
Canon lenses.

Bob

Robert Coe <> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:39:10 +0100, Bruce <> wrote:
>: Are you considering buying one, Bob?
>
>The 6D? No, I don't think so. I've got the FF itch out of my system for the
>time being. And two things bother me about the 6D: It lacks the 5D3's AF
>system; and my gut tells me it may also lack AF microadjustment, which
>experience tells me is necessary to get acceptable performance out of some
>Canon lenses.


I really don't know where Canon is going. That's a general view among
camera stores in the UK.

[The big news is that Canon abandoned trials of their 34.5 MP sensor
earlier this year and are currently trialling two sensors with much
higher MP. One is 46.1 MP and was tested at the 2012 Paralympics. Now
that's what I call a response to the D800.]

In rec.photo.digital Bruce <> wrote:
>Robert Coe <> wrote:
>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:39:10 +0100, Bruce <> wrote:
>>: Are you considering buying one, Bob?
>>
>>The 6D? No, I don't think so. I've got the FF itch out of my system for the
>>time being. And two things bother me about the 6D: It lacks the 5D3's AF
>>system; and my gut tells me it may also lack AF microadjustment, which
>>experience tells me is necessary to get acceptable performance out of some
>>Canon lenses.


>I really don't know where Canon is going. That's a general view among
>camera stores in the UK.

>[The big news is that Canon abandoned trials of their 34.5 MP sensor
>earlier this year and are currently trialling two sensors with much
>higher MP. One is 46.1 MP and was tested at the 2012 Paralympics. Now
>that's what I call a response to the D800.]

Would those sensors be of any use in even a full frame camera?
It would seem to me that such a sensor adds cost without adding
much photographic value.

On the other hand, on a larger frame camera it makes a lot of sense.

--
--- Paul J. Gans

"Bruce" <> wrote in message
news:...
>>Would those sensors be of any use in even a full frame camera?
>>It would seem to me that such a sensor adds cost without adding
>>much photographic value.
>
> I agree. I have been using a D800 and, quite frankly, I cannot see
> any real need for 36 MP. On the other hand, the 12 MP of my D3 is
> often not enough. So perhaps 24 MP is a happy medium?

Agreed, but OTOH as long as there is no real downside (as there doesn't
appear to be with say D800 Vs 5D3 IMO) I can't see the benefit of paying
more for less.


> I have placed an order for a 24 MP body.

So which body, and what do you hope to gain over a D800?


>>On the other hand, on a larger frame camera it makes a lot of sense.
>
> There were rumours a few months ago that Canon was looking at a sensor
> larger than 35mm full frame, but one that could still work in a camera
> with an EF mount. I have no idea if there was any truth in that, but
> Canon are not exactly predictable.

What would be the point of a lager than FF sensor using an EF mount, since
the lenses would not give full coverage of the sensor?
I guess whoever invented the rumour didn't think it through.
Adding ability to use Dx lenses on a Fx camera is a different thing
altogether than a camera that is crippled for life!

Trevor.

On 9/29/2012 3:27 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:> In rec.photo.digital Bruce
<> wrote:

>> [The big news is that Canon abandoned trials of their 34.5 MP sensor
>> earlier this year and are currently trialling two sensors with much
>> higher MP. One is 46.1 MP and was tested at the 2012 Paralympics. Now
>> that's what I call a response to the D800.]
>
> Would those sensors be of any use in even a full frame camera?
> It would seem to me that such a sensor adds cost without adding
> much photographic value.
>
> On the other hand, on a larger frame camera it makes a lot of sense.
>

46.1 full frame is the same pixel pitch as the 7D. I own
a 7D and assure that, across the whole frame using
FF lenses, the lenses are fully adequate. The results are great.
Now, at the corners of a full frame, some will not be perfect
for that pixel pitch. But over the whole frame they will be adequate.

Doug McDonald

Noons <> wrote:
> Robert Coe wrote,on my timestamp of 28/09/2012 12:19 PM:

>> And we should have gotten that you're simply gibbering. "Last you heard", the
>> 6D will be available in less than three months? <guffaw!> What did you "hear",
>> and from whom? And how often has that source been right?

> Ssshhhhhhh! You're interrupting the stream of "voices"!

I doubt he'll manage to drown out Canon, B&H and dozens of sites
reporting it on the internet ... but if you close your eyes and
ears with superglue, you might not notice these voices any more.

-Wolfgang