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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:01:08 +1200, Eric Stevens
<> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:47:41 -0500, "Ric Trexell" <>
>wrote:
>
>>I posted this in the Nikon group but that ng is pretty dead, so I reposting
>>it here.
>>
>>I recently bought a D5100 hoping to do some stock photography. I'm finding
>>the Cd instruction book to be not all that helpful. I have a few questions.
>>1. Can the display on the LCD viewer be made to last more than a few
>>seconds? I seem to hunt for what I want and about the time I find it and
>>start figuring what setting I want, the thing goes dark. 2. On manual,
>>when I look in the viewfinder (not the LCD display) it goes from little
>>numbers to bigger ones I think and says 'Lo" or something like that. I
>>really don't know what I'm asking here because I have only seen it a few
>>times and can't remember exactly. 3. I bought a set of umbrellas and
>>strobes (Promaster) and I would like to know if I can use them with the 5100
>>without blowing out the cameras electronics. Do I have to get one of those
>>Wein converters or whatever they are called. I can just use the built in
>>flash on the camera and the lights as slaves without any connection to the
>>camera.
>
>See http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...D5100FLASH.HTM for
>more information about the D5100 flash capabilities.
>
>> 4. Do you know of a good site online to get info on the Nikon's? I
>>have found www.imagining-resourse.com to be good. Also Ken Rockwells site
>>somewhat. 5. Do you know of a good book for the 5100? My camera store has
>>one and I noticed a lot of them on Amazon. I was just wondering if there is
>>someone out there that has bought a few books and likes one best. Thanks
>>for your help. Ric.

Normally, I'd provide whatever help I could to a poster's question.
When it's a person that purchases a camera to make money, adds
expensive accessories, but doesn't know what he's seeing through the
viewfinder, I just can't bring myself to take the questions seriously.

Little numbers to big ones? LOL

A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
or:

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...on-a-niko.html


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

In article <> , Ric
Trexell <> wrote:

> > A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
> ************************************************** ******************
> Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
> Spanish, and a CD of the manual.

you can download an english manual directly from nikon.

> The manual doesn't cover everything,

yes it does.

> and
> what it does cover I have questions that it doesn't even begin to answer.

that may be true. it's more of a reference than a tutorial.

there are books and web sites that explain what the various features
are for and when to use them, etc.

> Another thing I have a problem with is that the software that came with it
> for that LVviewer or whatever it is called, doesn't allow me to save RAW
> files.

you don't need any software to save raw files. they come out of the
camera that way.

in any event, you don't need their software. get lightroom or whatever
you prefer.

> As the guy said at bythom.com, Nikon is not a software company and
> they go out of their way to prove it.

what it does, it does well, but it's very non-optimized so you need to
be patient.

> As for the expensive accessories, I
> bought the umbrellas for my medium format camera, (Mamiya RB67 Pro S) not
> this camera. They also work on my Minolta X-700's without any problem. The
> Nikon digital prosumer camera that I bought doesn't have a PC connection for
> studio work. Talk about advanced. Ric.

the 5100 is a consumer camera. the higher end nikons have a pc cord
socket. the lower end ones don't.

in any event, a pc cord hotshoe adapter is $5.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 21:25:52 -0500, "Ric Trexell" <>
wrote:

>
>"t> Normally, I'd provide whatever help I could to a poster's question.
>> When it's a person that purchases a camera to make money, adds
>> expensive accessories, but doesn't know what he's seeing through the
>> viewfinder, I just can't bring myself to take the questions seriously.
>>
>> Little numbers to big ones? LOL
>>
>> A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
>************************************************* *******************
>Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
>Spanish, and a CD of the manual. The manual doesn't cover everything, and
>what it does cover I have questions that it doesn't even begin to answer.
>Another thing I have a problem with is that the software that came with it
>for that LVviewer or whatever it is called, doesn't allow me to save RAW
>files. As the guy said at bythom.com, Nikon is not a software company and
>they go out of their way to prove it. As for the expensive accessories, I
>bought the umbrellas for my medium format camera, (Mamiya RB67 Pro S) not
>this camera. They also work on my Minolta X-700's without any problem. The
>Nikon digital prosumer camera that I bought doesn't have a PC connection for
>studio work. Talk about advanced. Ric.
>

First of all, we - the readers of this newsgroup - only know what you
tell us in your post. Don't get your knickers in a twist because you
are being judged to be foolish based on what you posted.

Second, Nikon manuals are available online to be read or downloaded.

Third, Nikon is not responsible for you being uninformed. It's not
Nikon's fault that you purchased a used camera without the proper
manual or software. They furnish both when you buy a new one. You
made the buying decision and chose to buy a camera that evidently does
not fit your needs. Who's not advanced here?

The D5100 captures RAW files. Here's a free program that will allow
you download files from you SD card:
http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDownload.htm You can also do some
very minor editing in FastStone. You can download the .NEF (RAW)
file, view files, and save as using a different format such as .jpg.

However, if you don't have a RAW processor, such as one found in
programs like Adobe Elements, Photoshop, or Lightroom (or a dedicated
RAW processor), you won't be able to take advantage of the RAW format.

I can't imagine anyone buying a camera to make money and not having a
software editing program or understanding that they need to acquire
one.








--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

On 8/25/2012 10:25 PM, Ric Trexell wrote:
> "t> Normally, I'd provide whatever help I could to a poster's question.
>> When it's a person that purchases a camera to make money, adds
>> expensive accessories, but doesn't know what he's seeing through the
>> viewfinder, I just can't bring myself to take the questions seriously.
>>
>> Little numbers to big ones? LOL
>>
>> A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
> ************************************************** ******************
> Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
> Spanish, and a CD of the manual. The manual doesn't cover everything, and
> what it does cover I have questions that it doesn't even begin to answer.
> Another thing I have a problem with is that the software that came with it
> for that LVviewer or whatever it is called, doesn't allow me to save RAW
> files. As the guy said at bythom.com, Nikon is not a software company and
> they go out of their way to prove it. As for the expensive accessories, I
> bought the umbrellas for my medium format camera, (Mamiya RB67 Pro S) not
> this camera. They also work on my Minolta X-700's without any problem. The
> Nikon digital prosumer camera that I bought doesn't have a PC connection for
> studio work. Talk about advanced. Ric.
>
>

The 5100 is considered an entry level camera. If someone told you
otherwise, you were mislead.

--
Peter

On 8/25/2012 11:46 PM, tony cooper wrote:
<snip>

> I can't imagine anyone buying a camera to make money and not having a
> software editing program or understanding that they need to acquire
> one.
>
I can! Only because I've seen it. Several years ago while waiting for
the zoo to open I met a woman who had just purchased new Nikon equipment
for about $10,000. She only know enough to put the lens on the camera.
She did not know what lens to use for what. She said she wanted to
become a professional photographer. When I asked what programs she used
for processing, I got a blank look. She had no clue that she even needed
a computer. There are several members of my CC who can verify this incident.

--
Peter

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:44:49 -0700, nospam <> wrote:
: In article <> , Ric
: Trexell <> wrote:
:
: > > A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
: > ************************************************** ******************
: > Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
: > Spanish, and a CD of the manual.
:
: you can download an english manual directly from nikon.

IIRC, Nikon (unlike Canon) makes you supply a serial number or something to
prove that you own the camera. If you can't jump through their hoops, they may
charge you for the manual.

: > The manual doesn't cover everything,
:
: yes it does.

Still more interested in showing off than in helping people, I see. I suppose
you're planning to vote for Romney. Or are you not old enough?

Bob

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:46:53 -0400, tony cooper <>
wrote:
: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 21:25:52 -0500, "Ric Trexell" <>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"t> Normally, I'd provide whatever help I could to a poster's question.
: >> When it's a person that purchases a camera to make money, adds
: >> expensive accessories, but doesn't know what he's seeing through the
: >> viewfinder, I just can't bring myself to take the questions seriously.
: >>
: >> Little numbers to big ones? LOL
: >>
: >> A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
: >************************************************* *******************
: >Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
: >Spanish, and a CD of the manual. The manual doesn't cover everything, and
: >what it does cover I have questions that it doesn't even begin to answer.
: >Another thing I have a problem with is that the software that came with it
: >for that LVviewer or whatever it is called, doesn't allow me to save RAW
: >files. As the guy said at bythom.com, Nikon is not a software company and
: >they go out of their way to prove it. As for the expensive accessories, I
: >bought the umbrellas for my medium format camera, (Mamiya RB67 Pro S) not
: >this camera. They also work on my Minolta X-700's without any problem. The
: >Nikon digital prosumer camera that I bought doesn't have a PC connection for
: >studio work. Talk about advanced. Ric.
: >
:
: First of all, we - the readers of this newsgroup - only know what you
: tell us in your post. Don't get your knickers in a twist because you
: are being judged to be foolish based on what you posted.

Yeah, but nothing forces us to proclaim that judgement before we're sure.

Bob

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:28:10 -0400, PeterN <>
wrote:
: On 8/25/2012 11:46 PM, tony cooper wrote:
: <snip>
:
: > I can't imagine anyone buying a camera to make money and not having a
: > software editing program or understanding that they need to acquire
: > one.
: >
: I can! Only because I've seen it. Several years ago while waiting for
: the zoo to open I met a woman who had just purchased new Nikon equipment
: for about $10,000. She only know enough to put the lens on the camera.
: She did not know what lens to use for what. She said she wanted to
: become a professional photographer. When I asked what programs she used
: for processing, I got a blank look. She had no clue that she even needed
: a computer. There are several members of my CC who can verify this incident.

It's what we, as a society, have asked for by showering so much extra money on
the 1%.

Bob

On 9/1/2012 10:54 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:28:10 -0400, PeterN <>
> wrote:
> : On 8/25/2012 11:46 PM, tony cooper wrote:
> : <snip>
> :
> : > I can't imagine anyone buying a camera to make money and not having a
> : > software editing program or understanding that they need to acquire
> : > one.
> : >
> : I can! Only because I've seen it. Several years ago while waiting for
> : the zoo to open I met a woman who had just purchased new Nikon equipment
> : for about $10,000. She only know enough to put the lens on the camera.
> : She did not know what lens to use for what. She said she wanted to
> : become a professional photographer. When I asked what programs she used
> : for processing, I got a blank look. She had no clue that she even needed
> : a computer. There are several members of my CC who can verify this incident.
>
> It's what we, as a society, have asked for by showering so much extra money on
> the 1%.
>

But, but if you tax them more, to pay for useful services, they can't
spend it. <//end sarcasm tag>


--
Peter

On 2/09/2012 12:44 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:44:49 -0700, nospam <> wrote:
> : In article <> , Ric
> : Trexell <> wrote:
> :
> : > > A good site to get information is the Manual that came with the camera
> : > ************************************************** ******************
> : > Tony: I bought the camera used and what came with it was a manual in
> : > Spanish, and a CD of the manual.
> :
> : you can download an english manual directly from nikon.
>
> IIRC, Nikon (unlike Canon) makes you supply a serial number or something to
> prove that you own the camera. If you can't jump through their hoops, they may
> charge you for the manual.
>
> : > The manual doesn't cover everything,
> :
> : yes it does.
>
> Still more interested in showing off than in helping people, I see. I suppose
> you're planning to vote for Romney. Or are you not old enough?
>
> Bob
>

There are other sites to obtain the manual.

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app...tail/a_id/7008

20mb PDF download.