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To: Arne Vajhøj
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-p82-this>

To: Arne Vajhoj
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-jwh-this>

To: Arne Vajhoj
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-sao-this>

To: Arne Vajhoj
From: Gene Wirchenko <>

On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:44:26 -0400, Arne Vajhoj <> wrote:

>On 8/3/2012 8:58 AM, wrote:
>> Does the code you posted have a copyright.
>
>It is expected that code posted to usenet is free for
>everybody to use for whatever. Otherwise there were
>not really any point in posting it.

Nasty scenario: Get someone to use copyrighted code, and then sue
them for it. Using a computing technique (modularisation), the poster and the
suer may be different individuals.

Copyrighted code posted here is still copyrighted.

>A lawyer would probably fell down from the chair
>hearing about such "expectations", but ...

Well, yes.

OTOH, if the code is short, I think that that would weaken any
argument. Most anything posted here (attachments excepted) would be short.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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To: Gene Wirchenko
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To: Gene Wirchenko
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To: Gene Wirchenko
From: "=?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?="
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To: Gene Wirchenko
From: =?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <>

On 8/5/2012 9:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:44:26 -0400, Arne Vajhoj <>
> wrote:
>> On 8/3/2012 8:58 AM, wrote:
>>> Does the code you posted have a copyright.
>>
>> It is expected that code posted to usenet is free for
>> everybody to use for whatever. Otherwise there were
>> not really any point in posting it.
>
> Nasty scenario: Get someone to use copyrighted code, and then sue
> them for it. Using a computing technique (modularisation), the poster
> and the suer may be different individuals.

Strange things has happened before.

> Copyrighted code posted here is still copyrighted.

Obviously code posted here is copyrighted.

The question is whether posting to usenet implicit provides a "permissible
license".

Web fora where users has to register can require an explicit accept.

SO:

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I would argue that usenet posts via tradition, logic and similarity comes with
an implicit license for free usage by anyone.

Arne

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To: =?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-k2r-this>

To: =?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-qhs-this>

To: =?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=
From: "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-p82-this>

To: =?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=
From: Gene Wirchenko <>

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:30:54 -0400, Arne Vajhoj <> wrote:

>On 8/5/2012 9:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

>> Copyrighted code posted here is still copyrighted.
>
>Obviously code posted here is copyrighted.
>
>The question is whether posting to usenet implicit
>provides a "permissible license".
>
>Web fora where users has to register can require an
>explicit accept.
>
>SO:
>
>You agree that all Subscriber Content that You contribute to the Network
>is perpetually and irrevocably licensed to Stack Exchange under the
>Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license. You grant Stack

If I post code that I do not have the copyright for, I can not
give that right. I can agree with it all I want, but that is not the same
thing.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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