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"Joe." <> wrote in message
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> "BartC" <> wrote in message
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>>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
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>>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
>>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>>> update?
>>>
>>> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>>> own compiler.
>>
>> The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.
>
> What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?

The one in the subject line.

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Bartc

בת×�ריך יו×� שישי, 8 ביו×*×™ 2012 21:55:22 UTC+1, מ×�ת Ian Collins:
>
> I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this
> library. So what's wrong with posting updates here? Do you prefer
> reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?
>
My own view is that C isn't the right language for generic containers
libraries, partly because of the dependency problem, but partly
because it's as easy to manipulate pointers on an ad hoc basis as to use an
interface. I'm not sure whether that says something good or something bad
about C.

But I don't have a problem with Jacob discussing his project here. Particuarly
since he's started the process of trying to get the library standardised. It
seems clearly topical.
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Basic Algorithms - simple implementations of all the important container structures.
See my website: http://www.malcolmmclean.site11.com/www

On Jun 17, 7:32*pm, Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mcle...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> My own view is that C isn't the right language for generic containers
> *libraries, partly because of the dependency problem, but partly
> *because it's as easy to manipulate pointers on an ad hoc basis as to use an
> *interface. I'm not sure whether that says something good or something bad
> *about C.

My problem was (initially) type-safety, but since Jacob's expanded his
templated approach, the improvement on that front has been massive. I
still have my doubts about the error handling mechanism.

> But I don't have a problem with Jacob discussing his project here. Particuarly
> *since he's started the process of trying to get the library standardised. It
> *seems clearly topical.

Quite so.

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:54:39 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
> "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
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> > Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a �crit :
> >> In article<jqs4j2$653$>, Joe.<>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
> >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
> >>>
> >>> So what?
> >>>
> >>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are
> >>> 40,
> >>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they
> >>> realize
> >>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
> >>> - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
> >>
> >> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
> >> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
> >>
> >
> > And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
> >
>
> You missed the message entirely apparently. As in, "major faux paus"?

missed me too. What was your point?

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:32:20 PM UTC+1, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> בת×�ריך יו×� שישי, 8 ביו×*×™ 2012 21:55:22 UTC+1, מ×�ת Ian Collins:

> > I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this
> > library. So what's wrong with posting updates here? Do you prefer
> > reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?
>
> My own view is that C isn't the right language for generic containers
> libraries, partly because of the dependency problem, but partly
> because it's as easy to manipulate pointers on an ad hoc basis as to usean
> interface.

strongly diagree! For 1. it isn't *that* easy (or clear), for 2. you reallyshouldn't be mixing conatiner code with application code. programming is supposed to be about abstraction- so use some! I seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time debugging (other people's) linked list, queues and stacks.

> I'm not sure whether that says something good or something bad
> about C.

pointer manipulation is highly error prone and hard to debug. Write it onceand verify it thoughly.

This a separate issue as to whether Jacob's library is the right solution.

> But I don't have a problem with Jacob discussing his project here. Particuarly
> since he's started the process of trying to get the library standardised.. It
> seems clearly topical.

agreed

> --
> Basic Algorithms - simple implementations of all the important container structures.
> See my website: http://www.malcolmmclean.site11.com/www

isn't this a similar thing?

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:54:48 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
> "Noob" <root@localhost> wrote in message
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> > BruceS wrote:
> >
> >> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?
> >
> > And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
> > and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.
>
> I think that is the way most people think and act ("in my EXPERIENCE"): . I
> do not understand such behavior. There are other behaviors I don't
> understand.
>
> Did you just say that the world revolves around you?

idiot.

Le 18/06/12 11:13, a écrit :
> On Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:54:48 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
>> "Noob" <root@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:4fd4cef1$0$2052$...
>>> BruceS wrote:
>>>
>>>> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?
>>>
>>> And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
>>> and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.
>>
>> I think that is the way most people think and act ("in my EXPERIENCE"): . I
>> do not understand such behavior. There are other behaviors I don't
>> understand.
>>
>> Did you just say that the world revolves around you?
>
> idiot.
>

Exactly. This "joe" takes some word out of its context and adds
a sentence that has nothing to do whatsoever with the discussion

YAT! (Yet Another Troll)

Le 07/06/12 17:04, jacob navia a écrit :
> Hi
> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> container, and updated the documentation.

And now I have updated the vector container in a "templated" form.

Elements now can be passed by value, and you can build a thin
indirection layer to benefit from compile time diagnostics and easier
syntax


jacob

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On Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:54:39 AM UTC+1, Joe. wrote:
> "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
> news:jqsbtn$npn$...
> > Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a ?crit :
> >> In article<jqs4j2$653$>, Joe.<>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
> >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
> >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
> >>>
> >>> So what?
> >>>
> >>> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they
> >>> are
> >>> 40,
> >>> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they
> >>> realize
> >>> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
> >>> - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
> >>
> >> Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting
> >> whacko
> >> televangelists as sources of wisdom?
> >>
> >
> > And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
> >
>
> You missed the message entirely apparently. As in, "major faux paus"?

missed me too. What was your point?

you don't count cuz you are too old to abuse me, but you know you would if
you could and I don't like you, or you want what? me to be a leader? pfft.
****ing liar.

"BartC" <> wrote in message news:jrkcpp$gco$...
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> "Joe." <> wrote in message
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>> "BartC" <> wrote in message
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>>> "James Kuyper" <> wrote in message
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>>>> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
>>>>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
>>>>> update?
>>>>
>>>> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
>>>> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
>>>> own compiler.
>>>
>>> The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.
>>
>> What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?
>
> The one in the subject line.

I don't trust you.