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I was standing in-line at Starbucks and a guy with an iPad looked at
my camera and said, "film camera, isn't it?" Olympus did their job
right, since it was the OM-D. Anyway, turns out the guy owns a Canon
5D-II and we discussed the lenses, etc. Then he decides to show me
his images on his iPad. I cringed a bit thinking I was going to be
exposed to some horrific dog and kid shots. But, the guy's images
were outstanding. Shots in major national parks, in Utah and around
the U.S. Easily pro grade. Apart from a couple garish HRD shots, a
really impressive grouping.
So, it goes to show, you never can tell what you might see from
someone.

On 5/19/2012 12:44 PM, George Kerby wrote:
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> On 5/19/12 11:27 AM, in article
> 8fe55751-cd8f-411d-94f7-d92f1d99fd91...oglegroups.com, "RichA"
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>> I was standing in-line at Starbucks and a guy with an iPad looked at
>> my camera and said, "film camera, isn't it?" Olympus did their job
>> right, since it was the OM-D. Anyway, turns out the guy owns a Canon
>> 5D-II and we discussed the lenses, etc. Then he decides to show me
>> his images on his iPad. I cringed a bit thinking I was going to be
>> exposed to some horrific dog and kid shots. But, the guy's images
>> were outstanding. Shots in major national parks, in Utah and around
>> the U.S. Easily pro grade. Apart from a couple garish HRD shots, a
>> really impressive grouping.
>> So, it goes to show, you never can tell what you might see from
>> someone.
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> So, is hell freezing over? Rich has something NICE to say about Apple? LOL!
>

Maybe he will learn to overcome his prejudices. Or, was it really Rich
posting?

--
Peter

On May 19, 3:39*pm, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2012-05-19 09:44:42 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_top...@hotmail.com> said:
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> > On 5/19/12 11:27 AM, in article
> > 8fe55751-cd8f-411d-94f7-d92f1d99f...@t2g2000pbl.googlegroups.com, "RichA"
> > <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> I was standing in-line at Starbucks and a guy with an iPad looked at
> >> my camera and said, "film camera, isn't it?" *Olympus did their job
> >> right, since it was the OM-D. *Anyway, turns out the guy owns a Canon
> >> 5D-II and we discussed the lenses, etc. *Then he decides to show me
> >> his images on his iPad. *I cringed a bit thinking I was going to be
> >> exposed to some horrific dog and kid shots. *But, the guy's images
> >> were outstanding. *Shots in major national parks, in Utah and around
> >> the U.S. *Easily pro grade. *Apart from a couple garish HRD shots,a
> >> really impressive grouping.
> >> So, it goes to show, you never can tell what you might see from
> >> someone.
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> > So, is hell freezing over? Rich has something NICE to say about Apple? LOL!
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> No!
> Rich has never had anything nice to say about Apple. He had something
> nice to say about the work of a Canon shooter, shown to him on an Apple
> product.
> That said, slide shows and portfolios are very well presented on an
> iPad. For that alone it can be a useful tool for some photographers.
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> Regards,
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> Savageduck

It's merely a display product, like those old portable storage units
you could buy, with LCD screens.

> I was standing in-line at Starbucks and a guy with an iPad looked at
> my camera and said, "film camera, isn't it?" Olympus did their job
> right, since it was the OM-D. Anyway, turns out the guy owns a Canon
> 5D-II and we discussed the lenses, etc. Then he decides to show me
> his images on his iPad. I cringed a bit thinking I was going to be
> exposed to some horrific dog and kid shots. But, the guy's images
> were outstanding. Shots in major national parks, in Utah and around
> the U.S. Easily pro grade. Apart from a couple garish HRD shots, a
> really impressive grouping.
> So, it goes to show, you never can tell what you might see from
> someone.

And for the exact opposite experience, I went to a talk given by a local
"pro" who works on the local newspaper, and taught at the local college etc.
His talk was the worst cringe worthy experince I have ever seen of hundreds
of very poor holiday "snaps", kids etc. Many people left before it was over,
and I left feeling sorry for any students who had the misfortune to take his
classes. At least it was a free lecture, or I would have demanded my money
back!

BTW he always shoots in jpg only on a 5D2 to save time and storage space!


Trevor.

"RichA" <> wrote in message
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> It's merely a display product, like those old portable storage units
> you could buy, with LCD screens.

You really should use one for a while before posting such nonsense about
the iPad3. For a start, none of those older units have a 3 Mpix display
... and I don't think they have maps, GPS, voice recognition, web browsing
etc. etc.

David

In article <>, Rich
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> >> It's merely a display product, like those old portable storage units
> >> you could buy, with LCD screens.
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> > Would you say the same of an Android tablet?
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> I know people try to justify their existence, but they really are toys.
> The commpetition to see how many apps can be loaded and quickly forgotten
> is fierce. I see people doing real work, I see laptops, consistently.

you really need to get out more.

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
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> My iPad 2 runs iOS 5.1.1 the same OS as the new iPad. While the display
> doesn't meet the specs of the "Retina" display on the new iPad 3, I have
> no complaints with regard to the quality of the images I am able to
> display. It is really tough to see the difference. The new iPad has a
> better camera, and there the results are obvious.
> ...but I hardly ever use the iPad camera, I do use the iPhone camera
> from time to time, and it isn't bad as a spur of the moment shooter.
> Where it shines is using Ricoh's Scan Pages app to shoot documents save
> them as editable PDFs and share them with all my devices via Evernote.

I tend to view the display quite closely, and I find the improved text
clarity makes reading noticeably easier on the eye. I was surprised by
the difference. You notice this particularly on maps where the text can
be quite small.

> As for GPS that works just fine, as it does on the iPad 3 and iPhone. I
> have a whole variety of maps and nav aids. Let's see, I currently can
> choose from Google Earth, MapQuest, NatGeo Park Maps, Park Guides,
> Galileo for loading offline maps, along with MotionX-GPS, Spyglass,
> 3GPS, CoPilot GPS, and Theodolite.

I've just bought MapsWithMe:

http://www.mapswithme.com/

as the maps are free, and include regions which I will need (Svalbard).
There's a free version of the program as well, which just lacks the search
capability.

> The big caveat is the Wi-Fi only iPads do not have GPS capability.

Yes, that is an annoyance. Camera images are geo-tagged with the GPS
data, which can be helpful.

> Most of the Apps have been updated to provide improved presentation on
> the new iPad, and the iPad 2 has reaped the benefit.
> Along with all that I have access to Skype, Sirius/XM Satellite,
> Pandora, Tunein Radio, NetFlix Streaming, & HBO GO on my Macs, iPhone, &
> iPad.

Yes, I've used Skype and it works very well on the iPad. The BBC News,
BBC iPlayer, and Twitter are probably my most-used programs. I have
converted some movied from DVD to iPad as well, using HandBrake.

> ...and reading on the iPad is not a wholly unpleasant experience. I am
> currently engrossed with Alan Furst's "The Book of Spies", a compilation
> of some classic works by Ambler, Conrad, Le Carre, Burgess, Greene,
> Maugham, & a few others.

My reading is more technical manuals, but I have downloaded a few books.
I find that when working on the PC, it's handy to have the document
available on a second screen, and it means I can take my manuals for most
on my kit away with me at no extra weight penalty. I tend to use DropBox
and PDFs for that, although I have SkyDrive as well. At least with
DropBox I can keep copies on multiple PCs at home, and not /have/ to rely
on the cloud.

> For file transfer I have specific apps for Dropbox, Pogoplug, Picasa,
> and the Photo Transfer App with which I can send or receive apps between
> other mobile devices or computers. All pretty neat stuff.
> This is also available for Android devices.
> < http://www.phototransferapp.com/ipad/ >
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> ...I can also bore the socks off of unsuspecting individuals by
> torturing them with endless slideshows which I can suck out of
> cyber-space.
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> Regards,
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> Savageduck

Did you find that iOS 5 allowed ordering of images in a slide-show? I
recall we talked about this some time back. If it's in the Photo app, I
have yet to find it.

I must say that the iPad has been one of my best purchases, and has given
me a lot of fun. It's so much more convenient than any other computing
device I have, and I do use it quite a lot. I do wish there was a way of
running software on a trial basis, though. The Photo transfer App looks
interesting, and if it's useful to me I would willingly buy it, but I
don't want to fork out money and then have to argue over a refund. That
was a good feature of MapsWithMe - there is a "lite" version and using
that for a couple of days was enough to convince me to buy.

Cheers,
David

I should add that the other applications which I have found surprisingly
useful have been augmented reality ones - Ship Finder RA and Plane Finder
AR:

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/ship-...351104359?mt=8

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/plane...390039844?mt=8

(and there's a free version of Plane Finder). These use the camera and
display to show you the scene in front of your eyes with labels
superimposed of the ship names or aircraft names and routes. I can
imagine using something like this as a sort of virtual tourist device for
when you are looking out over a new city, wanting to see the landmarks.
It sounds corny when explained in text, but different when you try it in
practice....

Cheers,
David

On 19/05/2012 12:44 PM, George Kerby wrote:
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> On 5/19/12 11:27 AM, in article
> 8fe55751-cd8f-411d-94f7-d92f1d99fd91...oglegroups.com, "RichA"
> <> wrote:
>
>> I was standing in-line at Starbucks and a guy with an iPad looked at
>> my camera and said, "film camera, isn't it?" Olympus did their job
>> right, since it was the OM-D. Anyway, turns out the guy owns a Canon
>> 5D-II and we discussed the lenses, etc. Then he decides to show me
>> his images on his iPad. I cringed a bit thinking I was going to be
>> exposed to some horrific dog and kid shots. But, the guy's images
>> were outstanding. Shots in major national parks, in Utah and around
>> the U.S. Easily pro grade. Apart from a couple garish HRD shots, a
>> really impressive grouping.
>> So, it goes to show, you never can tell what you might see from
>> someone.
>
> So, is hell freezing over? Rich has something NICE to say about Apple? LOL!
>
And about Canon too, in the same post.

--
Mike

Trevor <> wrote:

> BTW he always shoots in jpg only on a 5D2 to save time and storage space!
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And that's bad because?

-Wolfgang