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I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.

I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that way.

I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new one
will make it all a lot worse.

On 5/12/2012 2:57 AM, Geopelia wrote:
> I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>
> I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
> Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
> Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
> What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that way.
>
> I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
> certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
> It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new one
> will make it all a lot worse.

I know for the 2 factor stuff you have the option of getting a phone
call. Perhaps that works for forgot passwords too? never tried it.

On 2012-05-11, Geopelia <> wrote:
> I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>
> I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
> Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
> Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
> What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that way.

Security is about breaking the connection/link, the trail. Convenience vs
security. By switching to another route to deliver the key, Google have
dropped a great deal of the crooks following.

Yes it is inconvient that the door to ones house is locked, but one does
have the key. So get it out and open the door.

>
> I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
> certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.

No society, or the minority within it have.


> It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new one
> will make it all a lot worse.
>
Have you considered the alternatives Geo? Sure it ****es one off that the
world has changed. However it has. Bugger!

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On 2012-05-11, Geopelia <> wrote:
>> I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>>
>> I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
>> Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
>> Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
>> What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that
>> way.
>
> Security is about breaking the connection/link, the trail. Convenience vs
> security. By switching to another route to deliver the key, Google have
> dropped a great deal of the crooks following.
>
> Yes it is inconvient that the door to ones house is locked, but one does
> have the key. So get it out and open the door.
>
>>
>> I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
>> certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
>
> No society, or the minority within it have.
>
>
>> It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new
>> one
>> will make it all a lot worse.
>>
> Have you considered the alternatives Geo? Sure it ****es one off that the
> world has changed. However it has. Bugger!

Yes, I use these newsgroups instead of Google groups.

I don't mind the world changing, as long as it changes for the better.
I've seen a lot of changes since I was born in 1929, not always an
improvement.

In article <joj9d6$f9j$>, "Geopelia" <> wrote:
>I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>
>I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
>Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
>Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
>What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that way.
>
>I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
>certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
>It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new one
>will make it all a lot worse.

As an aside, many news group reader's block everything posted by/from google
groups to improve the signal to noise ratio.
If that's your only choice for news, fine ... but I really suggest using
a "real" news reader and free NNTP server (like aioe or eternal september).

(nz.gen snipped)

"Bruce Sinclair" < > wrote
in message news:jopj8r$nq5$...
> In article <joj9d6$f9j$>, "Geopelia" <>
> wrote:
>>I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>>
>>I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
>>Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
>>Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
>>What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that
>>way.
>>
>>I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
>>certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
>>It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new
>>one
>>will make it all a lot worse.
>
> As an aside, many news group reader's block everything posted by/from
> google
> groups to improve the signal to noise ratio.
> If that's your only choice for news, fine ... but I really suggest using
> a "real" news reader and free NNTP server (like aioe or eternal
> september).
>
> (nz.gen snipped)
>

Yes, I use both of those, usually eternal-september, with aioe if september
isn't working.

I used to notice some posts in Google didn't appear in eternal-september,
but I'm not using google groups now.

In article <joobke$gtn$>, , Geopelia
says...
>
> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On 2012-05-11, Geopelia <> wrote:
> >> I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
> >>
> >> I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
> >> Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
> >> Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
> >> What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that
> >> way.
> >
> > Security is about breaking the connection/link, the trail. Convenience vs
> > security. By switching to another route to deliver the key, Google have
> > dropped a great deal of the crooks following.
> >
> > Yes it is inconvient that the door to ones house is locked, but one does
> > have the key. So get it out and open the door.
> >
> >>
> >> I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
> >> certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too complicated.
> >
> > No society, or the minority within it have.
> >
> >
> >> It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this new
> >> one
> >> will make it all a lot worse.
> >>
> > Have you considered the alternatives Geo? Sure it ****es one off that the
> > world has changed. However it has. Bugger!
>
> Yes, I use these newsgroups instead of Google groups.

They're the same thing. Google Groups is just Google's HTML (web)
implementation of usenet.

> I don't mind the world changing, as long as it changes for the better.
> I've seen a lot of changes since I was born in 1929, not always an
> improvement.

Maybe you should try out a decent newsreader - Outlook Express sucks as
a newsreader, IMO.

I like Gravity...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgr...urce=directory

You might like the, um, change (And it'll quite happily co-exist
with OE. I bet you won't keep using OE for much longer though

--
Duncan.

"Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <joobke$gtn$>, , Geopelia
> says...
>>
>> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > On 2012-05-11, Geopelia <> wrote:
>> >> I've been looking at how the new Google Groups work.
>> >>
>> >> I see if I forget my password to can get it sent to my mobile phone.
>> >> Brilliant idea, but I don't have a mobile phone.
>> >> Google's bright suggestion, use a friend's mobile.
>> >> What's wrong with good old email? Other outfits send the password that
>> >> way.
>> >
>> > Security is about breaking the connection/link, the trail. Convenience
>> > vs
>> > security. By switching to another route to deliver the key, Google have
>> > dropped a great deal of the crooks following.
>> >
>> > Yes it is inconvient that the door to ones house is locked, but one
>> > does
>> > have the key. So get it out and open the door.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm not going to be using Google except for looking up things as now,
>> >> certainly not the new groups. They have made things much too
>> >> complicated.
>> >
>> > No society, or the minority within it have.
>> >
>> >
>> >> It was bad enough when they changed things a few years ago, but this
>> >> new
>> >> one
>> >> will make it all a lot worse.
>> >>
>> > Have you considered the alternatives Geo? Sure it ****es one off that
>> > the
>> > world has changed. However it has. Bugger!
>>
>> Yes, I use these newsgroups instead of Google groups.
>
> They're the same thing. Google Groups is just Google's HTML (web)
> implementation of usenet.
>
>> I don't mind the world changing, as long as it changes for the better.
>> I've seen a lot of changes since I was born in 1929, not always an
>> improvement.
>
> Maybe you should try out a decent newsreader - Outlook Express sucks as
> a newsreader, IMO.
>
> I like Gravity...
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgr...urce=directory
>
> You might like the, um, change (And it'll quite happily co-exist
> with OE. I bet you won't keep using OE for much longer though
>

I usually look at the news from the top of the Google page, in case there is
something worth following up in a newspaper. I can get most of those on the
computer.

I leave new programs etc to the computer man. I suppose I'll have to change
from XP sooner or later.