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Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 19 Nov, 18:38, The Magpie <use...@pigsinspace.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Personally, I prefer XHTML 1.0 over HTML 4.x because it is much easier
>> to ensure it is error-free. But that's a personal choice.
>
> What makes you think that?
>
>
>> @pigsinspace.co.uk
>
> OMG! It's the uber-Mabbett!

Quite underwhelming unless you're using NN4 or MSIE...

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"Stevo" <> wrote in message
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> Mika wrote:
>> "Mika" <> wrote in message
>>>> Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site...
>>>> Operation aborted
>>> There was a mention to some style code in one of the fixes for this
>>> known IE bug. Anyway, it now appears to be resolved.
>
> No style problems can cause that. You've just shifted the problem around a
> bit. Edit: I just read you're including google maps code, that'll be
> what's doing it.
>
>>> Thanks for all the tips. Hopefully MS will fix the bug before even more
>>> programmers hate their browser, even if the majority of public don't.
>> Okay it turns out we jumped the gun as the problem is still happening,
>> albeit less often. It is completely random.
>
> The problem is that some code is trying to dynamically create DOM elements
> before the page is complete (i.e. before the </body> tag). IE won't
> tolerate this.
>
>> Can anyone suggest another way to do this (which doesn't work)?:
>> <!--[if IE]></body><![endif]-->
>
> Have you tried using document.write("<\/body>"); ?

Apologies, could you put the code in context and in laymen's terms please?
Exactly what should we add to make only IE see a </body> command?

"Randy Webb" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Mika said the following on 11/19/2007 3:51 PM:
>> "Stevo" <> wrote in message
>> news:fhsl6r$23p$00$...
>>> Mika wrote:
>>>> "Mika" <> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>>>>> Thanks for all the tips. Hopefully MS will fix the bug before even
>>>>> more programmers hate their browser, even if the majority of public
>>>>> don't.
>>>> Okay it turns out we jumped the gun as the problem is still happening,
>>>> albeit less often. It is completely random.
>>> The problem is that some code is trying to dynamically create DOM
>>> elements before the page is complete (i.e. before the </body> tag). IE
>>> won't tolerate this.
>
> Wow, IE got it right. Imagine that.
>
>>>> Can anyone suggest another way to do this (which doesn't work)?:
>>>> <!--[if IE]></body><![endif]-->
>>> Have you tried using document.write("<\/body>"); ?
>>
>> Apologies, could you put the code in context and in laymen's terms
>> please? Exactly what should we add to make only IE see a </body> command?
>
> Instead of trying to work around flaws in your design, maybe you should be
> trying to make your code work with valid HTML.

This is known *bug* with IE that has been much publicised on forums as an
incompatibility between it and Google Maps code. This issue does not occur
on Netscape, Firefox, Safari... it is an IE issue, not 'flaws in our
design'.

We continue to ask for constructive and helpful comments and look forward to
a reply from Stevo. Thank you.

Mika wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest another way to do this (which doesn't work)?:
>>> <!--[if IE]></body><![endif]-->
>> Have you tried using document.write("<\/body>"); ?
> Apologies, could you put the code in context and in laymen's terms please?
> Exactly what should we add to make only IE see a </body> command?

I'm not up on using conditional comments, I try to avoid them, but I
would imagine this would work (using the conditional comments syntax
from your example because I don't know the syntax):

<!--[if IE]>
<script type="text/javascript">document.write("<\/body>");</script>
<![endif]-->

"Randy Webb" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Mika said the following on 11/19/2007 5:05 PM:
>> "Randy Webb" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Mika said the following on 11/19/2007 3:51 PM:
>>>> "Stevo" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:fhsl6r$23p$00$...
>>>>> Mika wrote:
>>>>>> "Mika" <> wrote in message
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all the tips. Hopefully MS will fix the bug before even
>>>>>>> more programmers hate their browser, even if the majority of public
>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>> Okay it turns out we jumped the gun as the problem is still
>>>>>> happening, albeit less often. It is completely random.
>>>>> The problem is that some code is trying to dynamically create DOM
>>>>> elements before the page is complete (i.e. before the </body> tag). IE
>>>>> won't tolerate this.
>>> Wow, IE got it right. Imagine that.
>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone suggest another way to do this (which doesn't work)?:
>>>>>> <!--[if IE]></body><![endif]-->
>>>>> Have you tried using document.write("<\/body>"); ?
>>>> Apologies, could you put the code in context and in laymen's terms
>>>> please? Exactly what should we add to make only IE see a </body>
>>>> command?
>>> Instead of trying to work around flaws in your design, maybe you should
>>> be trying to make your code work with valid HTML.
>>
>> This is known *bug* with IE that has been much publicised on forums as an
>> incompatibility between it and Google Maps code.
>
> I like that mentality. Code doesn't work in a browser and it must be the
> browser - and not the code - that has a "bug" in it.

Randy with respect we don't have time to paste the evidence here, but there
are programmers furious at MS for this known bug. Try searching some of the
links other users posted above in this thread. We found a MS employee blog
the other day where MS admitted the "bug" in IE.

Please, if you have nothing constructive to say, do not feel the need to
contribute.

"Stevo" <> wrote in message
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> Mika wrote:
>>>> Can anyone suggest another way to do this (which doesn't work)?:
>>>> <!--[if IE]></body><![endif]-->
>>> Have you tried using document.write("<\/body>"); ?
>> Apologies, could you put the code in context and in laymen's terms
>> please? Exactly what should we add to make only IE see a </body> command?
>
> I'm not up on using conditional comments, I try to avoid them, but I would
> imagine this would work (using the conditional comments syntax from your
> example because I don't know the syntax):
>
> <!--[if IE]>
> <script type="text/javascript">document.write("<\/body>");</script>
> <![endif]-->

Thanks Stevo, it doesn't seem to work. IE ignores it.

Out of interest why does body have a double-slash "\/" before it?

I wonder if there is another way to say "only if you are IE, close the body
tag here"...

"Mika" <> wrote in message
news:tFo0j.50325$. uk...

> I wonder if there is another way to say "only if you are IE, close the
> body tag here"...

<!--[if IE]></body>><![endif]-->

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"rf" <> wrote:

> "Mika" <> wrote in message
> news:tFo0j.50325$. uk...
>
> > I wonder if there is another way to say "only if you are IE, close the
> > body tag here"...
>
> <!--[if IE]></body>><![endif]-->


<!--[if IE]><p style="font-size: 130%; font-weight: bold;">I had
to go to a lot of trouble for your browser, hope you appreciate
it!</p></body>><![endif]-->

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Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 19 Nov, 18:38, The Magpie <use...@pigsinspace.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Personally, I prefer XHTML 1.0 over HTML 4.x because it is much easier
>> to ensure it is error-free. But that's a personal choice.
>
> What makes you think that?
>
I should have thought that was obvious.

HTML was designed from the start as a subset of SGML that would permit
lax coding of tags and allow addition of non-specified tags such as
the many that Microsoft chose to add to their own implementation back
to HTML 3.x and earlier. XHTML is - of course - simply XML.

In comp.lang.javascript message <tFo0j.50325$
er.co.uk>, Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:06:01, Mika <> posted:
>
>Out of interest why does body have a double-slash "\/" before it?
>

The pragmatical reason is, I expect, that with just "/" the code will be
deemed invalid by reputable validators such as Opera Ctrl-Alt-V and W3's
downloadable TIDY.

Since you asked, I suspect that you are not in the habit of doing such
validation.

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