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Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
> Paul Lalli wrote:
>> Other posters have given you the answer, but I'm forced to wonder if
>> you even *tried* to figure it out on your own first. Please make sure
>> you check the built-in perl documentation for the functions your using,
>> especially if the warning message is nice enough to tell you exactly
>> what function is not working correctly:
>
> For what it's worth, never in my decades of Usenet use can I remember
> asking a question without doing some research.


I can remember you doing it less than a month ago:

Subject: Where do you report perl bugs?
Message-Id: U_qdncm7WdNVoHbcRVn-


> You don't have to believe me, but the biggest problem was that in spite
> of having been doing off and on perl for ten years, I actually did not
> realize the implications of trying to treat "one item" as if it were "a
> list containing one item" as being the same.


perldoc perldata

See the "Context" section.


> In other words, _others_
> foolishly gave me the answer,


Exactly so.


> while you nobly upheld the finest
> traditions of Usenet by bestowing upon me well-deserved and elegantly
> worded contempt for my lack of skill at navigating the stacks of the
> awesome Perl Public Library.


Typing

perldoc -q bug
and
perldoc -f split

does not require navigating stacks of awesome documentation.

Your credibility suffers, in my observations of your posting history.


--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas

Paul Lalli wrote:
> solve the problem for yourself. If you had simply said "I read
> `perldoc -f split`, but I still don't understand this warning. . . "

I couldn't have done that because two days ago I had never
heard of "perldoc -f"

This is odd, but I have read three or more perl books cover to
cover, and I don't remember ANY of them paying any attention
to man pages or other electronic documentation.

"perldoc -f" I suspect I won't forget that one.

--
Wes Groleau
"Ideas are more powerful than guns,
We would not let our enemies have guns;
why should we let them have ideas?"
-- Jozef Stalin

Tad McClellan wrote:
> Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
>>For what it's worth, never in my decades of Usenet use can I remember
>>asking a question without doing some research.
>
> I can remember you doing it less than a month ago:
>
> Subject: Where do you report perl bugs?
> Message-Id: U_qdncm7WdNVoHbcRVn-

Apparently your memory is no better than mine.
I abandoned gbronline a heck of a lot longer
than a month ago. Long enough that I can't be certain
I did any research on that question. I do know that it
wouldn't be like me to not try to figure it out on my own.

But of course, you will believe whatever you want to
believe about me. Enjoy.

--
Wes Groleau
"Ideas are more powerful than guns,
We would not let our enemies have guns;
why should we let them have ideas?"
-- Jozef Stalin

Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote in news:ZqdGf.146643
$7l4.54121@trnddc05:

> Paul Lalli wrote:
>> solve the problem for yourself.

This is badly quoted out of context. Paul did not say "solve the problem
yourself". Instead, he said:

<blockquote author="Paul Lalli">
My problem was that you gave no indication you had attempted to
solve the problem for yourself.
</blockquote>

>> if you had simply said "I read `perldoc -f split`, but I still
>> don't understand this warning. . . "
>
> I couldn't have done that because two days ago I had never
> heard of "perldoc -f"

That statement also means that you have not read the posting guidelines
before posting here:

http://mail.augustmail.com/~tadmc/cl...ines.html#must

Since you chose not to satisfy the most basic requirement for receiving
help here, Paul's warning was entirely appropriate.

> "perldoc -f" I suspect I won't forget that one.

That's good because it is becoming less and less likely that you'd be
able to get help any other way.

So long.

Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <>
(reverse each component and remove .invalid for email address)

comp.lang.perl.misc guidelines on the WWW:
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Wes Groleau wrote:
> OTOH, I realize not everyone agrees with those traditions.
> For example, Larry Wall: "There ain't nothin' in this world
> that's worth being a snot over."

Amusing that I had to BE a snot to introduce a quote
about being a snot.

Sorry.

--
Wes Groleau
Heroes, Heritage, and History
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau/

Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
> Tad McClellan wrote:
>> Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
>>>For what it's worth, never in my decades of Usenet use can I remember
>>>asking a question without doing some research.
>>
>> I can remember you doing it less than a month ago:
>>
>> Subject: Where do you report perl bugs?
>> Message-Id: U_qdncm7WdNVoHbcRVn-
>
> Apparently your memory is no better than mine.


Apparently we have entered the Twilight Zone then, as that
message ID appears on both my news server and on google groups.


> I abandoned gbronline a heck of a lot longer
> than a month ago.


So that wasn't you using your name in that thread?


--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas

Tad McClellan wrote:
> Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
> > Tad McClellan wrote:
> >> Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:
> >>>For what it's worth, never in my decades of Usenet use can I remember
> >>>asking a question without doing some research.
> >>
> >> I can remember you doing it less than a month ago:
> >>
> >> Subject: Where do you report perl bugs?
> >> Message-Id: U_qdncm7WdNVoHbcRVn-
> >
> > Apparently your memory is no better than mine.

> Apparently we have entered the Twilight Zone then, as that
> message ID appears on both my news server and on google groups.
> > I abandoned gbronline a heck of a lot longer
> > than a month ago.
>
> So that wasn't you using your name in that thread?


Er, Tad?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....7edfc9d1eb0a73
shows a date of Jan 16, 2005. Not 2006.

Paul Lalli


>
>
> --
> Tad McClellan SGML consulting
> Perl programming
> Fort Worth, Texas

Tad McClellan <> wrote:
> Wes Groleau <groleau+> wrote:

>> For what it's worth, never in my decades of Usenet use can I remember
>> asking a question without doing some research.
>
>
> I can remember you doing it less than a month ago:
>
> Subject: Where do you report perl bugs?
> Message-Id: U_qdncm7WdNVoHbcRVn-


Doh!

That was January 200_5_, not 2006.

I guess my $current_year++ takes a few months to finish executing.


--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas