PLONK wrote:
> Moz Champion wrote:
>
>> Michael C. wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:07:05 GMT,
>>> William W. Plummer <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moz Champion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have some of my accounts set up to send HTML, and leave the
>>>>> option to 'ask me', so I get questioned as to whether or not I
>>>>> really want to send HTML. Depending on the person/group I am
>>>>> sending to, I choose Send HTML or Send Plain Text, but never both.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to move on. I was sending plain text back in the '70s.
>>>> If I have to pick one, it will be HTML. Hopefully readers will
>>>> move up to a more capable reader.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You miss the point. HTML email is not an advance, it is a liability.
>>>
>>> Sending the same message in HTML uses several times the bandwidth. It
>>> also may contain exploits, violate privacy if it load images, etc.
>>> There are even email clients that don't render it, as you acknowledged.
>>>
>>> While I imagine there is a case to made for HTML emails, I have no clue
>>> what it is. A more capable email client is more exploitable as well.
>>>
>>> Some may prefer HTML, but you won't alienate them with text, you will
>>> however alienate those that prefer text by sending HTML.
>>>
>>> YMMV,
>>>
>>> Michael C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Since over 60% of Internet users still use 2800 baud modems or less,
>> and over 50% of users still pay for usage over XX minutes per month,
>> the attitude that its time to move on is selfish indeed. Simply
>> because YOU enjoy a high speed connection and unlimited time doesnt
>> mean everyone does.
>>
>> Just because YOU enjoy a mail server with vast storage, doesnt mean
>> everyone else does. Just because YOU enjoy the freedom to leave your
>> computer on and check mail frequently doesnt mean everyone else can.
>>
>> There is a case for HTML mail, but ONLY between users who want to use
>> it. And obviously, those users wont be using a 28000 baud (or less)
>> modem, or paying for connection time.
>>
>> The point Michael C makes about HTML being a liability is quite valid
>> as well. Simply because YOU dont mind loading images from unknown
>> servers doesnt mean everyone else does. Simply because YOU dont mind
>> getting pornographic images in your mail doesnt mean everyone does.
>> Simply because YOU dont mind risking your computer to javascript
>> exploits doesnt mean everyone else does.
>>
>> HTML mail is fine, between people who WANT to have it. But it simply
>> doesnt have much benefit to people who dont.
>>
>
> just cause you are living in the stoneage doesn't mean those of us in
> the civilized world have to.
>
I didnt say I was, I regularly use HTML mail (and newsgroups as well). I participate in several HTML newsgroups as well.
But the fact is, all those people WANT to have it. There are millions of people on the internet who dont WANT it.
So what YOU are saying, is that because YOU can, everybody should. Just because YOU have unlimited bandwidth, then everyone should? You going to help them pay for it? Just because YOU have unlimited internet access, everyone should? You gong to buy it for them?
I never said DONT use HTML, I simply said use it only for those who want it.
Do you demand that everyone you know have a computer and get on the internet just so you can send them email? After all, sending email is (in your words) the 'civilized' way of doing things.
Do you have a cell phone? If no, then why not? Its 'civilized" and modern.
Do you have a cell phone that can send and receive pictures (images)? Why not, that would be the 'civilized' and modern way of doing things.
Does your cell phone charge by the minute? Then you would LOVE everyone to send you pictures all day long, just so YOU can enjoy them (whether or not you want to) and PAY for all those minutes you are connected.
Do you insist everyone you know have a computer? Do you buy them one just so they can be civilized and modern like you? Or do you refuse to converse or relate to anyone who is so 'stoneage' as to not even HAVE a computer?
75% of the over 300 million people on the internet, log in on average once or twice a week to check email. Most of them have a mailbox of 10mb or less. Considering that an html mail can easily exceed 2mb or even 5mb, I guess they are going to have to change simply because YOU want to send HTML.
Its not about 'civilized' or 'stoneage' its about what people WANT. You want HTML in mail, then you are free to get it.
If you dont want a newspaper delivered to your door, you dont get one. Would you like it if because its considered 'civilized' you would be forced to get one and PAY for it?
Flying in aircraft is a civilized and modern way to travel. Yet over 92% of the worlds population has never ridden in an aircraft. And even then, amongst those who have the financial resources to travel in aircraft there are those who dont because of fear or other reasons. You going to ban trains simply because they are stoneage?
Simply because YOU can do it and want it, does not mean that everyone does.
You may like ice cream, does that mean everyone else MUST eat it too?
You may like watching Star Trek (Enterprise) on TV, does that mean everyone else must like it too? You going to buy them a TV so they are not living in the stoneage?
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