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HI...Here's my problem...I have a popup window that loads when i want it to,
but it's not sized properly. I've set the size, but it doesn't seem to
work. I've been on 8 different websites to find out what i'm doing wrong,
and so far it seems i'm doing it the right way. Here's my code...any
suggestions would be appreciated.

<script language="javascript">
<!--
window.open("256fx/index.htm", "", "height=400, width=600");
//-->
</script>

"Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 12/11/2003:

> HI...Here's my problem...I have a popup window that loads when i
want it to,
> but it's not sized properly. I've set the size, but it doesn't seem
to
> work. I've been on 8 different websites to find out what i'm doing
wrong,
> and so far it seems i'm doing it the right way. Here's my
code...any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> <script language="javascript">

Use type="text/javascript" instead of the 'language' attribute.

> <!--
> window.open("256fx/index.htm", "", "height=400, width=600");
> //-->
> </script>

This works fine on IE 6, however you shouldn't include spaces in the
features list. Change it to 'height=400,width=600'. That might be
the problem if you're testing this with a stricter browser.

Mike

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Didn't work for me for some reason, but thanks Mike.

The funny thing is, is that it opens as 400x600, but then it explodes to the
size of the desktop...

here's what i want to do:

Customer goes to www.whatever.com/
this takes them to index.html which then opens popup index.htm
the main page is just a simple graphic thats 400x600, with a few flash
buttons (more of an ad)
it's obviously in the center (still have to learn how to script that).

Any suggestions???

Shaun McKinnon

"Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 12/11/2003:

> Didn't work for me for some reason, but thanks Mike.
>
> The funny thing is, is that it opens as 400x600, but then it
explodes to the
> size of the desktop...
>
> here's what i want to do:
>
> Customer goes to www.whatever.com/
> this takes them to index.html which then opens popup index.htm
> the main page is just a simple graphic thats 400x600, with a few
flash
> buttons (more of an ad)
> it's obviously in the center (still have to learn how to script
that).

You still haven't mentioned what browser you're using. I don't think
I could help you even if you did say what it was, but someone else
might be able to. I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
window to maximize like that. Out of pure curiosity, could you try
this exact string (don't change a thing, please)? I have a theory,
but I might be way off the mark...

<A href="#" onclick="window.open('about:blank', 'about_blank',
'height=400,width=600'); return false">Test</A>

As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen' object.
It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions, amongst other
things. Of course, until your maximizing problem is fixed, centring
is useless.

Mike

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"Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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<snip>
>... . I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> window to maximize like that. ...
<snip>

My suspicion is that Shaun is using cut-and-paste scripts without
understanding what they do or how they work and has included a script
with a call to window.resizeTo (or resizeBy) that is expanding the
window. It certainly isn't something that I would expect to happen
without some sort of instruction to do so. (Then again it might be some
sort of ill-conceived free web host inserted script.)

>As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen'
>object. It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions,
>amongst other things. Of course, until your maximizing problem
>is fixed, centring is useless.

Centring windows is not as simple as just reading the screen dimensions
and positioning the window accordingly. Apart from being a meaningless
action in a tabbed browser, problems occur with, say, the MDI interface
on Opera, where screen dimensions reflect the desktop but window
positing instructions are relative to the outer window of the interface,
meaning that an attempt to position a window based on the screen
dimensions stands a very realistic chance of resulting in a window that
is entirely out of site. Multi-monitor displays are another stumbling
block as positioning based on screen dimension may result in the window
being opened across the screen boundaries, partly out of the displayable
desktop area and/or on a different monitor to the browser window, where
it may go unnoticed.

Unfortunately, without any mechanism for determining the type of
multi-monitor display (if any) being used, whether the browser is MDI or
tabbed, or any combination of these, the only reliable approach to
positioning windows is to make no specification at all. In response most
browsers will open a new window over the existing window, the one place
that you can be fairly certain that it will be apparent and fully
visible to the user (subject to scriptable window opening being allowed
at all).

Richard.

Hi, no it's not a cut and paste script (forbid)...It's one of Dreamweavers
wonderful drop in scripts that doesn't work worth a damn.
the script does not have an included call either. I posted the script that
i used.

Shaun McKinnon

"Richard Cornford" <> wrote in message
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> "Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hOzsb.2299$...
> <snip>
> >... . I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> > window to maximize like that. ...
> <snip>
>
> My suspicion is that Shaun is using cut-and-paste scripts without
> understanding what they do or how they work and has included a script
> with a call to window.resizeTo (or resizeBy) that is expanding the
> window. It certainly isn't something that I would expect to happen
> without some sort of instruction to do so. (Then again it might be some
> sort of ill-conceived free web host inserted script.)
>
> >As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen'
> >object. It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions,
> >amongst other things. Of course, until your maximizing problem
> >is fixed, centring is useless.
>
> Centring windows is not as simple as just reading the screen dimensions
> and positioning the window accordingly. Apart from being a meaningless
> action in a tabbed browser, problems occur with, say, the MDI interface
> on Opera, where screen dimensions reflect the desktop but window
> positing instructions are relative to the outer window of the interface,
> meaning that an attempt to position a window based on the screen
> dimensions stands a very realistic chance of resulting in a window that
> is entirely out of site. Multi-monitor displays are another stumbling
> block as positioning based on screen dimension may result in the window
> being opened across the screen boundaries, partly out of the displayable
> desktop area and/or on a different monitor to the browser window, where
> it may go unnoticed.
>
> Unfortunately, without any mechanism for determining the type of
> multi-monitor display (if any) being used, whether the browser is MDI or
> tabbed, or any combination of these, the only reliable approach to
> positioning windows is to make no specification at all. In response most
> browsers will open a new window over the existing window, the one place
> that you can be fairly certain that it will be apparent and fully
> visible to the user (subject to scriptable window opening being allowed
> at all).
>
> Richard.
>
>

I'll try that string Mike...Thanks again for you help.

Shaun McKinnon
ps: it's IE 6

"Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 12/11/2003:
>
> > Didn't work for me for some reason, but thanks Mike.
> >
> > The funny thing is, is that it opens as 400x600, but then it
> explodes to the
> > size of the desktop...
> >
> > here's what i want to do:
> >
> > Customer goes to www.whatever.com/
> > this takes them to index.html which then opens popup index.htm
> > the main page is just a simple graphic thats 400x600, with a few
> flash
> > buttons (more of an ad)
> > it's obviously in the center (still have to learn how to script
> that).
>
> You still haven't mentioned what browser you're using. I don't think
> I could help you even if you did say what it was, but someone else
> might be able to. I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> window to maximize like that. Out of pure curiosity, could you try
> this exact string (don't change a thing, please)? I have a theory,
> but I might be way off the mark...
>
> <A href="#" onclick="window.open('about:blank', 'about_blank',
> 'height=400,width=600'); return false">Test</A>
>
> As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen' object.
> It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions, amongst other
> things. Of course, until your maximizing problem is fixed, centring
> is useless.
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Michael Winter
> M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk (remove [no-spam] to reply)
>
>

Hey MIKE!!!

That worked..Thanks alot. I'll customize it for my usage.

Shaun McKinnon

"Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 12/11/2003:
>
> > Didn't work for me for some reason, but thanks Mike.
> >
> > The funny thing is, is that it opens as 400x600, but then it
> explodes to the
> > size of the desktop...
> >
> > here's what i want to do:
> >
> > Customer goes to www.whatever.com/
> > this takes them to index.html which then opens popup index.htm
> > the main page is just a simple graphic thats 400x600, with a few
> flash
> > buttons (more of an ad)
> > it's obviously in the center (still have to learn how to script
> that).
>
> You still haven't mentioned what browser you're using. I don't think
> I could help you even if you did say what it was, but someone else
> might be able to. I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> window to maximize like that. Out of pure curiosity, could you try
> this exact string (don't change a thing, please)? I have a theory,
> but I might be way off the mark...
>
> <A href="#" onclick="window.open('about:blank', 'about_blank',
> 'height=400,width=600'); return false">Test</A>
>
> As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen' object.
> It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions, amongst other
> things. Of course, until your maximizing problem is fixed, centring
> is useless.
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Michael Winter
> M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk (remove [no-spam] to reply)
>
>

"Richard Cornford" wrote on 13/11/2003:

> "Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
message
> news:hOzsb.2299$...
> <snip>
> >... . I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> > window to maximize like that. ...
> <snip>
>
> My suspicion is that Shaun is using cut-and-paste scripts without
> understanding what they do or how they work and has included a
script
> with a call to window.resizeTo (or resizeBy) that is expanding the
> window. It certainly isn't something that I would expect to happen
> without some sort of instruction to do so. (Then again it might be
some
> sort of ill-conceived free web host inserted script.)
>
> >As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen'
> >object. It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions,
> >amongst other things. Of course, until your maximizing problem
> >is fixed, centring is useless.
>
> Centring windows is not as simple as just reading the screen
dimensions
> and positioning the window accordingly. Apart from being a
meaningless
> action in a tabbed browser, problems occur with, say, the MDI
interface
> on Opera, where screen dimensions reflect the desktop but window
> positing instructions are relative to the outer window of the
interface,
> meaning that an attempt to position a window based on the screen
> dimensions stands a very realistic chance of resulting in a window
that
> is entirely out of site. Multi-monitor displays are another
stumbling
> block as positioning based on screen dimension may result in the
window
> being opened across the screen boundaries, partly out of the
displayable
> desktop area and/or on a different monitor to the browser window,
where
> it may go unnoticed.
>
> Unfortunately, without any mechanism for determining the type of
> multi-monitor display (if any) being used, whether the browser is
MDI or
> tabbed, or any combination of these, the only reliable approach to
> positioning windows is to make no specification at all. In response
most
> browsers will open a new window over the existing window, the one
place
> that you can be fairly certain that it will be apparent and fully
> visible to the user (subject to scriptable window opening being
allowed
> at all).

Your point is well taken. I'm sheltered from the features of most
browsers out there. They've proved far too unstable on my system in
the past. I loved Opera, but it crashed - sometimes taking the kernel
with it - regularly. I've got enough problems with stability as it is
at the moment, I don't need more possible causes.

A few counter points:

1) You can't place windows off-screen. Scripts have to be signed to
do that (unless that restriction was removed after 1.3 - I haven't
finished reading up on DOM and the later JS versions yet), and the OPs
won't be.
2) As you say, positioning is meaningless for tabbed browsers. They
will ignore such positioning statements, so it won't matter. The user
just won't see quite what the author intended.
3) The browsers create the screen object. It would be logical to
assume that an MDI browser would report the dimensions of the MDI
window, and not that of the entire monitor. In my opinion, I see no
point in reporting the existence of pixels you can't use. Whether the
browser developers see it that way is of course, another matter and
one that is a waste of time debating (good to note, though).

Mike

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"Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 13/11/2003:

> Hey MIKE!!!
>
> That worked..Thanks alot. I'll customize it for my usage.

No problem. It appears that because you didn't name the window
(second parameter), IE ignored the features list. 'name' is required.
Thomas Lahn also suggested this in your other thread.

Mike

> Shaun McKinnon
>
> "Michael Winter" <M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
message
> news:hOzsb.2299$...
> > "Shaun McKinnon" wrote on 12/11/2003:
> >
> > > Didn't work for me for some reason, but thanks Mike.
> > >
> > > The funny thing is, is that it opens as 400x600, but then it
> > explodes to the
> > > size of the desktop...
> > >
> > > here's what i want to do:
> > >
> > > Customer goes to www.whatever.com/
> > > this takes them to index.html which then opens popup index.htm
> > > the main page is just a simple graphic thats 400x600, with a few
> > flash
> > > buttons (more of an ad)
> > > it's obviously in the center (still have to learn how to script
> > that).
> >
> > You still haven't mentioned what browser you're using. I don't
think
> > I could help you even if you did say what it was, but someone else
> > might be able to. I'm frankly at a loss for what would cause your
> > window to maximize like that. Out of pure curiosity, could you
try
> > this exact string (don't change a thing, please)? I have a
theory,
> > but I might be way off the mark...
> >
> > <A href="#" onclick="window.open('about:blank', 'about_blank',
> > 'height=400,width=600'); return false">Test</A>
> >
> > As for centring, that's fairly simple. Check the 'screen' object.
> > It's properties include the user's monitor dimensions, amongst
other
> > things. Of course, until your maximizing problem is fixed,
centring
> > is useless.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Michael Winter
> > M.Winter@[no-spam]blueyonder.co.uk (remove [no-spam] to reply)
> >
> >
>
>