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Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>>>> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>>>>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>>>>>> Eric Stevens <> wrote:

>>>>>>>>Read Donna Laframboise's book.

>>>>>>> Why? You are the one making claims. YOU are the one who cannot
>>>>>>> support any of your claims.

>>>>>>Refusal to read the support presented noted.

>>>>> Calling it "support" doesn't make it so, denier.

>>>>Refusing to read it before denying it makes you an idiot.

>>> Refusing to read a work of fiction makes me an idiot?

>>So why do you want us to believe in the work of fiction
>>called "global warming is man-made and ongoing"?

> The alternative is to insist that thousands of the world's scientists
> in dozens of nations are all part of a vast conspiracy so clever that
> denier lunatics have never been able to find any proof for it.

Proof for fixing data and facts by the powerful "manmade global
warming" (which ought to pay you) has been offered.

So your rant is not based on facts, but on lunatic lies.


>>> And refusing to deal with facts makes you smart?

>>Facts are *supposed* to be grounded in reality,

> Apparently not for you.

Ray, learn reading and understanding what you read. "grounded in
reality" does not equal "agrees with the half-truths and lies of
Ray Fisher".

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:

>>*You* claimed categorucally that it is fiction, so *you* have to
[lots of proof that Ray's word isn't worth the electrons needed
to transmit it --- by Ray's own standards! --- snipped by Ray
because he knows he hasn't answers.]

> You basically just exist to be an argumentative asshole, don't you?

You basically just exist to lie and insult other people, don't you?

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>> Eric Stevens <> wrote:
>>>> (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:

>>>>>>So the global cooling was manmade?

>>>>>Yes. And it was temporary.

>>>>That's interesting. How was it manmade?

>>> Air pollution.

>>> For somebody who claims to know so much about climate change you
>>> really are disgustingly ignorant of even the most basic facts.

>> So you say there has been a really bad global cooling all through
>> the industrialization? You know, when every house was fired with
>> coal, soot filled the air and the industry smoke stacks *smoked*
>> --- without any filter and no clean air legislation?

>> And we just must pollute the air more, then the global warning
>> is history?

> Are you illiterate or a liar?

Taking *your* words as truth and *your* logic as correct makes
one illiterate or a liar? That's interesting.

Noted: you have not answers to the question why really bad air
pollution doesn't cause global cooling, when you claim it does.

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>> Wolfgang Weisselberg <> wrote:
>>>>Ray Fischer <> wrote:
>>>>> George Kerby <> wrote:
>>>>>><> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 4:44 PM, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling>
>>>>[...]
>>>>>>>> I don't know what you consider a "Scientific Community", but just run a
>>>>>>>> Google on Climate Cooling and target things written between 73 - 78, when
>>>>>>>> the Earth was experiencing it's last cycle of cooling. It was everywhere. In
>>>>>>>> all the major magazines, news sources, etc. At that time people were
>>>>>>>> proclaiming another "Ice Age", maybe you were too young to remember?
>>
>>>>>>> It's all in the link you posted.
>>
>>>>>>Ergo my post.
>>
>>>>> A rambling, bizarre post which doesn't appear to make any sense.
>>
>>>>Of course it doesn't make any sense *to* *you*, because global
>>>>cooling fears (oh so similar to current global warming fears)
>>>>don't make sense to a "manmade global warming" fanatic.
>>
>>> You don't live in the real world, do you?
>>
>>Disc-World? Where trees have mercury thermometers and elves
>>recording the readings?

> The best you can do is to whine about these silly strawmen?

The best you can do is insult others?

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Eric Stevens <> wrote:
>>On 22 Mar 2012 18:49:00 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>Eric Stevens <> wrote:
>>>> (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>>>>>Without the quotes, I don't see any relevant. Maybe you should be
>>>>>specific instead of spouting your usual denier bullshit.

>>>>Maybe you should try doing some research yourself.

>>>Done that.

>>>Once again you are unable to justify your claims with cites.

>>You are a hopeless idiot.

> That's not a cite.

It's the truth, though.

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer <> wrote:
> Eric Stevens <> wrote:
>>On 22 Mar 2012 18:51:57 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>>>"Evade, evade, evade."

>>True, that's what you do
[of course Ray quotemardered that ... again]

> "I know you are but what am I?"

You are a liar, denier, hopeless idiot, quote marder, ad
hominem arguer, and paid by Al Gore.

-Wolfgang

Eric Stevens <> wrote:
> On 23 Mar 2012 22:15:37 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>Eric Stevens <> wrote:

>>>Here is some proxy data for you.

>>You don't even know what the words mean.

>>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...ce_age_global/
>>> "global warming has already occurred in historical, pre-industrial
>>> times, and then gone away again.""

>>Current warming dramatically exceeds historical events both in speed
>>and in magnitude.

> Where is your data?

Ray doesn't _need_ any data. He'll challenge you in a post or two
to prove the opposite, and call you a denier (again, he has a
very limited vocabulary).

After all, *nobody* has *any* indications that there is a "world
spanning conspiracy by a handful of the worlds' bought scientists
and power and money grabbing politicans" or something.

-Wolfgang